KYSR-2

[KMRichards]

Josh had asked whether or not the HD-2 channel on KYSR would be broadbased 80s or limited to what is in the KYSR library. I theorized that they would use the 80s tracks already in the KYSR library, as well as in the KBIG and KHHT libraries (now that I think about it, maybe some from the KOST library?).

If anyone has a HD receiver and could spend a couple of hours logging what they are playing, I think we'd all be interested in seeing the playlist ...<P ID="signature">______________


</P>

 

[robnokshus]

> If anyone has a HD receiver...

Aye, there's the rub. Is anyone going to rush out and buy an HD receiver to hear hastily thrown together niche formats programmed by the same geniuses that have brought terrestrial radio to it's knees? Doubtful. HD has zero buzz on the street compared to Xm and Sirius with their 9-million combined audience and is a good 3 years behind. I say good luck.

 

[calguy]

> Aye, there's the rub. Is anyone going to rush out and buy an
> HD receiver to hear hastily thrown together niche formats
> programmed by the same geniuses that have brought
> terrestrial radio to it's knees? Doubtful. HD has zero buzz
> on the street compared to XM and Sirius with their 9-million
> combined audience and is a good 3 years behind. I say good
> luck.
>
You know, terrestrial radio is NOT as bad as you might think.
I've heard Sirius and XM. Both are programmed by people from
terrestrial radio, and as such, it's just more of the same.
Yes, there are some great channels on both, but personally
I'm getting a little tired of everyone knocking earthbound radio.
If it was THAT bad then no one would be listening at all.
And if you point to the eroding numbers, remember that radio
has competition from sources other that iPods & satellite channels.
There's the internet, TV and cable. There are some talented and
very entertaining people on terrestrial radio who work there tails
off, and while XM & Sirius may be the future, that isn't now.
And where are the satellite stars of the future? They're most
likely on local stations in cities across America learning or
perfecting their craft. Of course many won't make in on satellite
radio since many of the channels are just jukeboxes that don't
speak to you at all. I've heard HD, and it sounds pretty good.
Yes HD may be the AM Stereo of today, and will most likely
never take off. But you must remember how much money XM and Sirius
have been spending to get their name out there. It's been a huge
effort, and part of that effort is to put earthly radio down,
to make it look bad, but it's really not that bad.
There are plenty of great sounding well programmed radio stations
out there. As for HD, it will most likely fail because no one will
ever know it even exists. These formats may be hastily thrown together,
but any station that starts up goes through growing pains.
In time they should improve.

There, I feel better now...
Of course someone will come along and disagree with me,
but that's America for you...

 

[k9ez]

> > If anyone has a HD receiver...
>
> Aye, there's the rub. Is anyone going to rush out and buy an
> HD receiver to hear hastily thrown together niche formats
> programmed by the same geniuses that have brought
> terrestrial radio to it's knees? Doubtful. HD has zero buzz
> on the street compared to Xm and Sirius with their 9-million
> combined audience and is a good 3 years behind. I say good
> luck.
>

Here we have another armchair quarterback..... Brought terrestrial radio to its knees? If you dont like it, what would YOU do to make it better? Instead of whining "Radio sucks" how would YOU change it??? Being an armchair quarterback is EASY. Making a difference takes thought and work.

9 million is what percentage of the total audience? 3%???? <sarcasm> WOW HUUGE numbers.</sarcasm> And out of those, how many are just sat receivers that were put out yet not activated (they count every receiver put out and may not haev been activated)? And how many of those are sat receivers where the people will take the first year free then give it up?

To whom should we be saying good luck to????

 

[k9ez]

> > Aye, there's the rub. Is anyone going to rush out and buy
> an
> > HD receiver to hear hastily thrown together niche formats
> > programmed by the same geniuses that have brought
> > terrestrial radio to it's knees? Doubtful. HD has zero
> buzz
> > on the street compared to XM and Sirius with their
> 9-million
> > combined audience and is a good 3 years behind. I say good
>
> > luck.
> >
> You know, terrestrial radio is NOT as bad as you might
> think.
> I've heard Sirius and XM. Both are programmed by people
> from
> terrestrial radio, and as such, it's just more of the same.
> Yes, there are some great channels on both, but personally
> I'm getting a little tired of everyone knocking earthbound
> radio.
> If it was THAT bad then no one would be listening at all.
> And if you point to the eroding numbers, remember that radio
>
> has competition from sources other that iPods & satellite
> channels.
> There's the internet, TV and cable. There are some talented
> and
> very entertaining people on terrestrial radio who work there
> tails
> off, and while XM & Sirius may be the future, that isn't
> now.
> And where are the satellite stars of the future? They're
> most
> likely on local stations in cities across America learning
> or
> perfecting their craft. Of course many won't make in on
> satellite
> radio since many of the channels are just jukeboxes that
> don't
> speak to you at all. I've heard HD, and it sounds pretty
> good.
> Yes HD may be the AM Stereo of today, and will most likely
> never take off. But you must remember how much money XM and
> Sirius
> have been spending to get their name out there. It's been a
> huge
> effort, and part of that effort is to put earthly radio
> down,
> to make it look bad, but it's really not that bad.
> There are plenty of great sounding well programmed radio
> stations
> out there. As for HD, it will most likely fail because no
> one will
> ever know it even exists. These formats may be hastily
> thrown together,
> but any station that starts up goes through growing pains.
>
> In time they should improve.
>
> There, I feel better now...
> Of course someone will come along and disagree with me,
> but that's America for you...
>

I am in your corner CalGuy! For YEARS we have been hearing "Radio Sucks". Why? A lot of people that I know (not in the radio business) are listening to radio all of the time.

Next time you are stuck in traffic...look around you. Suer some may be listening to a CD, or more rarely Sat Radio, but most are listening to local radio. Thats a lot of people folks!

I haev yet to have a decent answer from the "Radio Sucks" people. What would YOU do to change it to make it better? For some it is a hopeless cause, as there is no pleasing some people. So be it. But for the rest of the 98% of us we can find something that we enjoy on local radio.

Stop your whining folks and do somethign about it. It is easy to be the whiner. It takes thought to make a difference. I know my employer pays me to make a difference. Whiners are a dime a dozen.

 

[XXXradioXXX]

> > > Aye, there's the rub. Is anyone going to rush out and
> buy
> > an
> > > HD receiver to hear hastily thrown together niche
> formats
> > > programmed by the same geniuses that have brought
> > > terrestrial radio to it's knees? Doubtful. HD has zero
> > buzz
> > > on the street compared to XM and Sirius with their
> > 9-million
> > > combined audience and is a good 3 years behind. I say
> good
> >
> > > luck.
> > >
> > You know, terrestrial radio is NOT as bad as you might
> > think.
> > I've heard Sirius and XM. Both are programmed by people
> > from
> > terrestrial radio, and as such, it's just more of the
> same.
> > Yes, there are some great channels on both, but personally
>
> > I'm getting a little tired of everyone knocking earthbound
>
> > radio.
> > If it was THAT bad then no one would be listening at all.
>
> > And if you point to the eroding numbers, remember that
> radio
> >
> > has competition from sources other that iPods & satellite
> > channels.
> > There's the internet, TV and cable. There are some
> talented
> > and
> > very entertaining people on terrestrial radio who work
> there
> > tails
> > off, and while XM & Sirius may be the future, that isn't
> > now.
> > And where are the satellite stars of the future? They're
> > most
> > likely on local stations in cities across America learning
>
> > or
> > perfecting their craft. Of course many won't make in on
> > satellite
> > radio since many of the channels are just jukeboxes that
> > don't
> > speak to you at all. I've heard HD, and it sounds pretty
> > good.
> > Yes HD may be the AM Stereo of today, and will most likely
>
> > never take off. But you must remember how much money XM
> and
> > Sirius
> > have been spending to get their name out there. It's been
> a
> > huge
> > effort, and part of that effort is to put earthly radio
> > down,
> > to make it look bad, but it's really not that bad.
> > There are plenty of great sounding well programmed radio
> > stations
> > out there. As for HD, it will most likely fail because no
>
> > one will
> > ever know it even exists. These formats may be hastily
> > thrown together,
> > but any station that starts up goes through growing pains.
>
> >
> > In time they should improve.
> >
> > There, I feel better now...
> > Of course someone will come along and disagree with me,
> > but that's America for you...
> >
>
> I am in your corner CalGuy! For YEARS we have been hearing
> "Radio Sucks". Why? A lot of people that I know (not in
> the radio business) are listening to radio all of the time.
>
> Next time you are stuck in traffic...look around you. Suer
> some may be listening to a CD, or more rarely Sat Radio, but
> most are listening to local radio. Thats a lot of people
> folks!
>
> I haev yet to have a decent answer from the "Radio Sucks"
> people. What would YOU do to change it to make it better?
> For some it is a hopeless cause, as there is no pleasing
> some people. So be it. But for the rest of the 98% of us
> we can find something that we enjoy on local radio.
>
> Stop your whining folks and do somethign about it. It is
> easy to be the whiner. It takes thought to make a
> difference. I know my employer pays me to make a
> difference. Whiners are a dime a dozen.
>

Radio management did a great job last year didn't it? Lets ask Wall Street.

If anyone thinks that HD-2 is the savior, as these same brilliant radio execs think, then why have they chosen loser niche formats that couldn't even survive on Class A sticks in Los Angeles?

Lets take 3 Los Angeles HD-2 formats. Female Talk (Infinity). ABC tried it here and lost horribly. AAA (Emmis). Jacor/Clear Channel was the most recent to try it. It was a failure and not the first time for L.A.. Disco (Clear Channel). Failed over and over. And even KBIG's own "Boogie Nights" is rumored to soon come to an end when a new night host is picked (and it won't be Christian Wheel).

So, if they think loser, niche formats that won't be live and local (that is what MADE radio a success isn't it???) for the most part is going to save radio, they can keep on seeing slow to no growth as they did last year (and will again this year). Other forms of "entertainment" continue to nibble away at their former fortunes and Wall Street keeps downgrading them. They only have their short sightedness to blame. But, hey, they could be record company execs. That's one industry that is clueless and can't figure it out even more so than radio.

HD-2 is a conmplete joke. The best use of the radio spectrum is to turn it into wireless internet connections. They'll make a fortune.

 

[Magic91derful]

If it makes you feel better to pound your chest and say "broadcast
radio is great" so be it. I'm in the business and I can tell you
that TSL is down, revenue is down, and the upscale music audience
is starting to leave us. I see the research comes across my desk.
I don't care how hard people work, hell the 49er's and Lions
likely work hard, but they still lose. After so many years of
consolidation, automation, and "safe lists", its all starting
to take its toll.

I've had people (not in any way associated with the business)
who I've never known to complain about radio tell me flat-out
"I'm getting XM/Sirius" there is no station I can listen to.
Can it be fixed,of course. But it will be dificult with the
present business model, which is based on very tight margins.
As for HD: the tuning methodology which has been adopted is highly confusing,
not to mention the lack of demand for HD radio's on the consumer
side. Quite frankly, it's a little late.













> > >
> > > In time they should improve.
> > >
> > > There, I feel better now...
> > > Of course someone will come along and disagree with me,
>
> > > but that's America for you...
> > >
> >
> > I am in your corner CalGuy! For YEARS we have been
> hearing
> > "Radio Sucks". Why? A lot of people that I know (not in
> > the radio business) are listening to radio all of the
> time.
> >
> > Next time you are stuck in traffic...look around you.
> Suer
> > some may be listening to a CD, or more rarely Sat Radio,
> but
> > most are listening to local radio. Thats a lot of people
> > folks!
> >
> > I haev yet to have a decent answer from the "Radio Sucks"
> > people. What would YOU do to change it to make it better?
>
> > For some it is a hopeless cause, as there is no pleasing
> > some people. So be it. But for the rest of the 98% of us
>
> > we can find something that we enjoy on local radio.
> >
> > Stop your whining folks and do somethign about it. It is
> > easy to be the whiner. It takes thought to make a
> > difference. I know my employer pays me to make a
> > difference. Whiners are a dime a dozen.
> >
>
> Radio management did a great job last year didn't it? Lets
> ask Wall Street.
>
> If anyone thinks that HD-2 is the savior, as these same
> brilliant radio execs think, then why have they chosen loser
> niche formats that couldn't even survive on Class A sticks
> in Los Angeles?
>
> Lets take 3 Los Angeles HD-2 formats. Female Talk
> (Infinity). ABC tried it here and lost horribly. AAA
> (Emmis). Jacor/Clear Channel was the most recent to try it.
> It was a failure and not the first time for L.A.. Disco
> (Clear Channel). Failed over and over. And even KBIG's own
> "Boogie Nights" is rumored to soon come to an end when a new
> night host is picked (and it won't be Christian Wheel).
>
> So, if they think loser, niche formats that won't be live
> and local (that is what MADE radio a success isn't it???)
> for the most part is going to save radio, they can keep on
> seeing slow to no growth as they did last year (and will
> again this year). Other forms of "entertainment" continue to
> nibble away at their former fortunes and Wall Street keeps
> downgrading them. They only have their short sightedness to
> blame. But, hey, they could be record company execs. That's
> one industry that is clueless and can't figure it out even
> more so than radio.
>
> HD-2 is a conmplete joke. The best use of the radio spectrum
> is to turn it into wireless internet connections. They'll
> make a fortune.
>

 

[k9ez]

Funny even my wife can figure out how to tune in an HD signal, and she is used to listening to just one station. Once a person has an HD2 signal tuned in they just hit it as a preset and they are done with it. How is that so difficult?

I have to laugh when people say it is too late. I am going to use the VCR analogy again. Who was first? Beta. Which one was better technically? Beta. Who lasted in the long run? VHS.


> If it makes you feel better to pound your chest and say
> "broadcast
> radio is great" so be it. I'm in the business and I can tell
> you
> that TSL is down, revenue is down, and the upscale music
> audience
> is starting to leave us. I see the research comes across my
> desk.
> I don't care how hard people work, hell the 49er's and Lions
>
> likely work hard, but they still lose. After so many years
> of
> consolidation, automation, and "safe lists", its all
> starting
> to take its toll.
>
> I've had people (not in any way associated with the
> business)
> who I've never known to complain about radio tell me
> flat-out
> "I'm getting XM/Sirius" there is no station I can listen to.
>
> Can it be fixed,of course. But it will be dificult with the
> present business model, which is based on very tight
> margins.
> As for HD: the tuning methodology which has been adopted is
> highly confusing,
> not to mention the lack of demand for HD radio's on the
> consumer
> side. Quite frankly, it's a little late.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

[Magic91derful]

You are an oddity,someone who actually has HD Radio.
Reality check: most consumers haven't heard of it.
Its funny that corporate insiders have big doubts
about HD, off the record of course. But you a guy
who is so early in the adoption phase,(that you
qualify for freak status) have all the confidence
in the world. In a study by Cox Radio almost nine
out of ten consumers would prefer seeing HD radio
supplemental stations displayed as “expanded bands”
instead of “layered bands.”. But we are allowing
the radio manufactuers to set the standard. You
must be on the engineering side, marketing people
actually have to sell this. Geeks did such a great
job the first time around on the Internet crash, I
think they need to stand on the sidelines this time.



> Funny even my wife can figure out how to tune in an HD
> signal, and she is used to listening to just one station.
> Once a person has an HD2 signal tuned in they just hit it as
> a preset and they are done with it. How is that so
> difficult?
>
> I have to laugh when people say it is too late. I am going
> to use the VCR analogy again. Who was first? Beta. Which
> one was better technically? Beta. Who lasted in the long
> run? VHS.
>
>
> > If it makes you feel better to pound your chest and say
> > "broadcast
> > radio is great" so be it. I'm in the business and I can
> tell
> > you
> > that TSL is down, revenue is down, and the upscale music
> > audience
> > is starting to leave us. I see the research comes across
> my
> > desk.
> > I don't care how hard people work, hell the 49er's and
> Lions
> >
> > likely work hard, but they still lose. After so many years
>
> > of
> > consolidation, automation, and "safe lists", its all
> > starting
> > to take its toll.
> >
> > I've had people (not in any way associated with the
> > business)
> > who I've never known to complain about radio tell me
> > flat-out
> > "I'm getting XM/Sirius" there is no station I can listen
> to.
> >
> > Can it be fixed,of course. But it will be dificult with
> the
> > present business model, which is based on very tight
> > margins.
> > As for HD: the tuning methodology which has been adopted
> is
> > highly confusing,
> > not to mention the lack of demand for HD radio's on the
> > consumer
> > side. Quite frankly, it's a little late.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

 

[archer1043]

>>>And even KBIG's own "Boogie Nights" is rumored to soon come to an end when a new night host is picked (and it won't be Christian Wheel).<<<

This is a rumor I haven't heard. I'm curious as to the genesis of it. Do you have more details?

 

[robnokshus]

> Here we have another armchair quarterback..... Brought
> terrestrial radio to its knees? If you dont like it, what
> would YOU do to make it better? Instead of whining "Radio
> sucks" how would YOU change it??? Being an armchair
> quarterback is EASY. Making a difference takes thought and
> work.
>
> 9 million is what percentage of the total audience? 3%????
> WOW HUUGE numbers. And out of those, how many are just
> sat receivers that were put out yet not activated (they
> count every receiver put out and may not haev been
> activated)? And how many of those are sat receivers where
> the people will take the first year free then give it up?
>
> To whom should we be saying good luck to????
>
You might try a reading for comprehension course as you missed my point entirely. The point I was making was that after billions of dollars spent on the creation and marketing of sat radio they have 9-million subs to date, and you are correct, that is not a huge percent of the listening populace. My point being that HD radio is not the panacea the industry seems to think it is.

The problem with the suits making decisions is that they equate digital with audio quality. Digital downloading is popular so the people must be thirsting for "CD quality" audio is what they figure. Remember the original Napster? Many, if not most of the songs you would download would be encoded at low bitrates in order to facilitate faster downloading or allow for more storage on your hard drive. Audio quality was not the issue. Variety and content were. being able to find songs not played on the radio or out of print or rare versions of songs was the compelling reason to download. The suits, having never experienced Napster, don't get it.

As for your armchair quarterback comment, well, how do you know that I am not on the front lines trying to make radio better? Believe me, I'm fighting the good fight every day. Some days I win, some days I don't. I do what I can.

 

[k9ez]

Your words flatter me... Oddity, Freak. Thanks

> You are an oddity,someone who actually has HD Radio.
> Reality check: most consumers haven't heard of it.
> Its funny that corporate insiders have big doubts
> about HD, off the record of course. But you a guy
> who is so early in the adoption phase,(that you
> qualify for freak status) have all the confidence
> in the world. In a study by Cox Radio almost nine
> out of ten consumers would prefer seeing HD radio
> supplemental stations displayed as “expanded bands”
> instead of “layered bands.”. But we are allowing
> the radio manufactuers to set the standard. You
> must be on the engineering side, marketing people
> actually have to sell this. Geeks did such a great
> job the first time around on the Internet crash, I
> think they need to stand on the sidelines this time.
>
>
>
> > Funny even my wife can figure out how to tune in an HD
> > signal, and she is used to listening to just one station.
>
> > Once a person has an HD2 signal tuned in they just hit it
> as
> > a preset and they are done with it. How is that so
> > difficult?
> >
> > I have to laugh when people say it is too late. I am
> going
> > to use the VCR analogy again. Who was first? Beta.
> Which
> > one was better technically? Beta. Who lasted in the long
>
> > run? VHS.
> >
> >
> > > If it makes you feel better to pound your chest and say
> > > "broadcast
> > > radio is great" so be it. I'm in the business and I can
> > tell
> > > you
> > > that TSL is down, revenue is down, and the upscale music
>
> > > audience
> > > is starting to leave us. I see the research comes across
>
> > my
> > > desk.
> > > I don't care how hard people work, hell the 49er's and
> > Lions
> > >
> > > likely work hard, but they still lose. After so many
> years
> >
> > > of
> > > consolidation, automation, and "safe lists", its all
> > > starting
> > > to take its toll.
> > >
> > > I've had people (not in any way associated with the
> > > business)
> > > who I've never known to complain about radio tell me
> > > flat-out
> > > "I'm getting XM/Sirius" there is no station I can listen
>
> > to.
> > >
> > > Can it be fixed,of course. But it will be dificult with
> > the
> > > present business model, which is based on very tight
> > > margins.
> > > As for HD: the tuning methodology which has been adopted
>
> > is
> > > highly confusing,
> > > not to mention the lack of demand for HD radio's on the
> > > consumer
> > > side. Quite frankly, it's a little late.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

 

[robnokshus]

> You are an oddity,someone who actually has HD Radio.

You must be on the engineering side...

Funny. I thought the same thing. the only people I know who have HD are engineers. You go Beta Boy!

 

[RobertMoore]

You're not the only who wants to know. I hate to see "Boogie Nights" go.

 

[Radiogeek500]

Re: Keep in mind all...

> You're not the only who wants to know. I hate to see "Boogie
> Nights" go.
>

The Poster making this claim has quite a "history" with our board. Yes, he goes back to this board's original start on the Inside The Web board server. And he has made MANY predictions about things happening and such.

Just stating the facts as a mod.<P ID="signature">______________
Happy 20th Birthday Power 106

JOSH, Moderating the whole Radio-Info radio state of California and Indiana too!

www.myspace.com/radiogeek500</P>

 

[allisonmarie]

> > If anyone has a HD receiver...
>
> Aye, there's the rub. Is anyone going to rush out and buy an
> HD receiver to hear hastily thrown together niche formats
> programmed by the same geniuses that have brought
> terrestrial radio to it's knees? Doubtful. HD has zero buzz
> on the street compared to Xm and Sirius with their 9-million
> combined audience and is a good 3 years behind. I say good
> luck.
>
By the way in the latest PC Magazine they are saying that Satellite radio is poised to explode during the next two years or so. It's on page 19 lower right.
19 million subscribers + by the end of 2007. Me? I want my wi-fi!!
Also look for voice activated XM radios. Just tell it what kind of music you want and it serves it up!

 

[XXXradioXXX]

Re: Keep in mind all...

> > You're not the only who wants to know. I hate to see
> "Boogie
> > Nights" go.
> >
>
> The Poster making this claim has quite a "history" with our
> board. Yes, he goes back to this board's original start on
> the Inside The Web board server. And he has made MANY
> predictions about things happening and such.
>
> Just stating the facts as a mod.
>

KBIG will have a new night host and a (seperate) new "Disco Saturday Night" host. There are a few L.A. radio veterans up for those gigs. "Boogie Nights" MAY or may not remain. They're "researching" going in another direction. We'll see what pans out in the weeks ahead.

 

[davideduardo]

> By the way in the latest PC Magazine they are saying that
> Satellite radio is poised to explode during the next two
> years or so. It's on page 19 lower right.
> 19 million subscribers + by the end of 2007.

That is pretty optimistic. That would mean selling 25% more subscriptions in 2 years than in the last 4. And the growth has not been incremental so far.

19 million receivers is just about enough to get satellite a 1% share of national listening.

 

[allisonmarie]

>
How about a return to live radio drama and comedy programs? "Everything old is new again."
Look at all the possibilities of new radio employment that would be openned up! I say return radio to its roots! Live pokemon battles for the kids to cheer on their favorite pokemon. Got any other ideas for programs? How about the new adventures of the Lone Ranger fighting all those terrorests in the bad lands of Iraq? Or in Afganistan? Or perhaps right here in good old America. How about the New "New" adventures of Frank Drebin, From the files of Police Squad?
the possibilities are truely endless if radio management would only strive to reinvent the medium and move away from "The Music is King" ideas of old!
We've got to start someplace why not with live drama and comedy?






If it makes you feel better to pound your chest and say
> "broadcast
> radio is great" so be it. I'm in the business and I can tell
> you
> that TSL is down, revenue is down, and the upscale music
> audience
> is starting to leave us. I see the research comes across my
> desk.
> I don't care how hard people work, hell the 49er's and Lions
>
> likely work hard, but they still lose. After so many years
> of
> consolidation, automation, and "safe lists", its all
> starting
> to take its toll.
>
> I've had people (not in any way associated with the
> business)
> who I've never known to complain about radio tell me
> flat-out
> "I'm getting XM/Sirius" there is no station I can listen to.
>
> Can it be fixed,of course. But it will be dificult with the
> present business model, which is based on very tight
> margins.
> As for HD: the tuning methodology which has been adopted is
> highly confusing,
> not to mention the lack of demand for HD radio's on the
> consumer
> side. Quite frankly, it's a little late.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >
> > > > In time they should improve.
> > > >
> > > > There, I feel better now...
> > > > Of course someone will come along and disagree with
> me,
> >
> > > > but that's America for you...
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am in your corner CalGuy! For YEARS we have been
> > hearing
> > > "Radio Sucks". Why? A lot of people that I know (not
> in
> > > the radio business) are listening to radio all of the
> > time.
> > >
> > > Next time you are stuck in traffic...look around you.
> > Suer
> > > some may be listening to a CD, or more rarely Sat Radio,
>
> > but
> > > most are listening to local radio. Thats a lot of
> people
> > > folks!
> > >
> > > I haev yet to have a decent answer from the "Radio
> Sucks"
> > > people. What would YOU do to change it to make it
> better?
> >
> > > For some it is a hopeless cause, as there is no pleasing
>
> > > some people. So be it. But for the rest of the 98% of
> us
> >
> > > we can find something that we enjoy on local radio.
> > >
> > > Stop your whining folks and do somethign about it. It is
>
> > > easy to be the whiner. It takes thought to make a
> > > difference. I know my employer pays me to make a
> > > difference. Whiners are a dime a dozen.
> > >
> >
> > Radio management did a great job last year didn't it? Lets
>
> > ask Wall Street.
> >
> > If anyone thinks that HD-2 is the savior, as these same
> > brilliant radio execs think, then why have they chosen
> loser
> > niche formats that couldn't even survive on Class A sticks
>
> > in Los Angeles?
> >
> > Lets take 3 Los Angeles HD-2 formats. Female Talk
> > (Infinity). ABC tried it here and lost horribly. AAA
> > (Emmis). Jacor/Clear Channel was the most recent to try
> it.
> > It was a failure and not the first time for L.A.. Disco
> > (Clear Channel). Failed over and over. And even KBIG's own
>
> > "Boogie Nights" is rumored to soon come to an end when a
> new
> > night host is picked (and it won't be Christian Wheel).
> >
> > So, if they think loser, niche formats that won't be live
> > and local (that is what MADE radio a success isn't it???)
> > for the most part is going to save radio, they can keep on
>
> > seeing slow to no growth as they did last year (and will
> > again this year). Other forms of "entertainment" continue
> to
> > nibble away at their former fortunes and Wall Street keeps
>
> > downgrading them. They only have their short sightedness
> to
> > blame. But, hey, they could be record company execs.
> That's
> > one industry that is clueless and can't figure it out even
>
> > more so than radio.
> >
> > HD-2 is a conmplete joke. The best use of the radio
> spectrum
> > is to turn it into wireless internet connections. They'll
> > make a fortune.
> >
>

 

[archer1043]

Re: Keep in mind all...

> KBIG will have a new night host and a (seperate) new "Disco
> Saturday Night" host. There are a few L.A. radio veterans up
> for those gigs. "Boogie Nights" MAY or may not remain.
> They're "researching" going in another direction. We'll see
> what pans out in the weeks ahead.



That would be ironic given my previous association with the shows.