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KYW 1060 AM now broadcasting from new studios

How many studios does KYW 1060 have? What are their designations? How many studios and what floor is WYSP-FM on? What are their designations?
 
Furthermore, why haven't they gotten rid of the Chunga, chunga, chunga, chunga, of the now obsolete teletype machine that constantly plays on an endless loop in the backround? It does give the station the character of an up to the minute news station? No ? Second I would love to find out how KYW gets their STL microwave signal from CC Philly to the dual tower KYW transmitting site at Joshua Road and Flowertown Road in Montgomery County! Remember Microwave is line of site !! Have a great day !! ERIN GO BRAGH
 
Hi Jim! The teletype EFX has actually been a really good idea. It is certain to let the listeners know they're listening to KYW and it doesn't actually distract them from what's being broadcast. For diary recognition, it's historically been pretty good to them. Maybe they won't feel the need to use it now that diaries have (thankfully) gone the way of the do-do. But I kinda like having that teletype in the background. Plus, it acts as a sort-of "white noise" that covers up some of the interference inherent in analog AM reception.

And I'll bet a lot of people have never noticed that the teletype EFX stops whenever the live anchor closes the mic. It can be for a piece being filed by a field reporter, for the five-day, for the expert phone calls during the Opening Bell segment, for whatever. Whenever the anchor cuts the mic, the teletype goes with it.
 
The change of address didn't bring about a change in Dick Covington's TOH ID schpiel, at least at 5:00pm today. He still says "From Independence Mall..." :)

ixnay
 
ixnay said:
The change of address didn't bring about a change in Dick Covington's TOH ID schpiel, at least at 5:00pm today. He still says "From Independence Mall..." :)

ixnay
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They only moved 1/2 block. I guess Fox 29 could say that they're on Independence Mall too. :)
 
KYW has been running a liner about how they are still "close" to Independence Mall!
 
Bill_W said:
ixnay said:
The change of address didn't bring about a change in Dick Covington's TOH ID schpiel, at least at 5:00pm today. He still says "From Independence Mall..." :)

ixnay
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They only moved 1/2 block. I guess Fox 29 could say that they're on Independence Mall too. :)
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You expected truth in advertising from these people, maybe?
Radio promotions lie all the time.
They also say they serve Pennsylvania, New Jersey AND DELAWARE. Right!
You give us 22 Minutes - but it's a 30 minute cycle.
News when you want it - if you tune in at the right point in the cycle (after :10 and :40, forget it except maybe a few throw away stories as fill at the end of the cycle).

If - if - CBS Radio were smart (and we know they are not), they'd have moved the whole !@#$ cluster out of Philly so nobody would have to keep paying the city wage tax. The company got a corporate tax break but the employees got screwed.

I also notice that 1010 WINS - a decent all news station - doesn't bother with canned teletype noise. Bad sitcoms need canned laughter (much of it taken from the audiences for network work radio comedy shows more than 60 years ago). It's understandable that a bad news station would resort to canned news sound effects. 1010 WINS, another former Group W news station, also doesn't do all this BS about "Live from the _______ Center" (Business Center, Storm Center ....).

KYW is like one of those trees that looks big and strong until it falls over one day and you can see it's been rotting away inside for years.

And before somebody says how KYW is on top of the ratings, they are number three - heading for four. And nothing in Delaware ratings. Where one station claims to be the only independently-owned all news station - except for at least 14 others and this one isn't even all news, and Delaware's ONLY news station - except for the station from whose website they keep lifting stories. This station had a similar geographic relationship (often touted) to "Downtown Rodney Square" as KYW now has with Independence Mall.

I'm sure other people can add to the list of lies radio stations tell.
 
fred, I believe the "22 minutes" refers to the 8(?) minutes subtracted from the cycle for commercials and promos.

The future of KYW's teletype loop does not concern me one way or the other BTW. Now, if 1060's sound suddenly takes on a resemblance to 1450's my hair *might* stand on end. :eek: ;D

ixnay
 
ixnay said:
fred, I believe the "22 minutes" refers to the 8(?) minutes subtracted from the cycle for commercials and promos.

The future of KYW's teletype loop does not concern me one way or the other BTW. Now, if 1060's sound suddenly takes on a resemblance to 1450's my hair *might* stand on end. :eek: ;D

ixnay
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That means if you give them 22 minutes of your time, they give you about 15 minutes of world.
Who needs KYW?
Get a GPS and you customized traffic and immediate alerts.
Cell phones and computers can give you the rest of the world customized - and on demand, including THE school closing you care about.
Even if they were still putting a good news product, which they are not, KYW and newsradio in general is as obsolete as the 60 bps teletype machine they use as their audio symbol. (I suppose we should be grateful they are not using Morse code in their stingers).

I used to think WILM could not get any worse, but it has. For the first time since the great sack, I listened to the noon news (now at 11:30) on 1450. What was once the Phatso Phone Hour has become AP for the visually impaired - wire stories, wire stories, and still more wire stories. I heard just one sound bite (sound to go with a press release). Several national stories but only a couple of cuts pulled off Fox to go with them. They only have four people full time (plus one part-timer on weekends) in news - three of whom have titles, and they all are working like they still have a bloated, unproductive, inefficient staff of 14. Clear Channel in Harrisburg feeds multiple stations with four people and still goes after local stories, gets sound and rewrites wire copy. But WILM sounds dead with four people.

Radio stations make their money in more drive. Radio stations build on the morning drive audience the rest of the day. There is no way WILM can benefit from Rush and Hannity after they've killed off any potential audience before noon.
 
It's my understanding (hedge word for "not 100% sure") the whole "22 minutes" thing dates back to the mid 1960s... Gordon McLendon was launching a near-clone (with some adjustments) of his WNUS Chicago on Tijuana's XETRA for Los Angeles... XETRA was to be very commuter-friendly, and when a recent study came out estimating the average daily commute to work in the Greater L.A. area was 22 minutes, he set out to develop a news cycle that would hit everything in that time... That's what, I'm pretty sure, the 22 minutes refers to (it has nothing to do with programming cycle)... Later Group W adopted the positioner for its own news stations, which of course all sound very different from the early McLendon ones (few if any reporters, just good announcers reading mostly wire copy and stuff from very few writers)...

After reading Fred's post above this morning, I punched up WILM's stream to hear much of the 11:30 "hour" and must say his comments are pretty accurate... Granted I didn't log on until about 11:40 or so, but all I heard was a very lonely-sounding Mark Fowser reading wire copy, a National Wx Service (!) forecast, and playing spots (and a lot of unpaid PSAs, which I suppose could have been on the stream only-- then again, I heard what likely was union talent on other spots that went out over the stream, so who knows)... I don't even know why they're doing this half-hour... Radio Programming 101 teaches not to start radio shows on the half-hour, though I doubt Watson shares much audience with Rush anyway...
 
George Brusstar said:
It's my understanding (hedge word for "not 100% sure") the whole "22 minutes" thing dates back to the mid 1960s... Gordon McLendon was launching a near-clone (with some adjustments) of his WNUS Chicago on Tijuana's XETRA for Los Angeles... XETRA was to be very commuter-friendly, and when a recent study came out estimating the average daily commute to work in the Greater L.A. area was 22 minutes, he set out to develop a news cycle that would hit everything in that time... That's what, I'm pretty sure, the 22 minutes refers to (it has nothing to do with programming cycle)... Later Group W adopted the positioner for its own news stations, which of course all sound very different from the early McLendon ones (few if any reporters, just good announcers reading mostly wire copy and stuff from very few writers)...

After reading Fred's post above this morning, I punched up WILM's stream to hear much of the 11:30 "hour" and must say his comments are pretty accurate... Granted I didn't log on until about 11:40 or so, but all I heard was a very lonely-sounding Mark Fowser reading wire copy, a National Wx Service (!) forecast, and playing spots (and a lot of unpaid PSAs, which I suppose could have been on the stream only-- then again, I heard what likely was union talent on other spots that went out over the stream, so who knows)... I don't even know why they're doing this half-hour... Radio Programming 101 teaches not to start radio shows on the half-hour, though I doubt Watson shares much audience with Rush anyway...
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GB,

In the late 70's, 1010 WINS was asking for 20 minutes. Then KYW started asking for 30 minutes. Then 1010 WINS raised the price of the world to 22 minutes. At some point after that KYW dropped back to 22 minutes, brining it in line with WINS. McClendon started out in Chicago with a 15 minute cycle and then upped it to 20 minutes for Chicago and Tijuana. The you give us ____ minutes line did come from the Old Scotsman.

Truth is, Watson doesn't have much audience to share. Liz. Cindy from Price's Corner. Tony from Hockessin on a cell phone. A few others. It would be interesting to hear how Rush handles Liz, although she seems to be keeping busy calling WDEL these days.

Poor Mark. I guess a half hour of reading wire copy is really dehydrating and causes a major drop in blood sugar. At noon he must really need some fresh fruit. 11:30 to noon isn't really an hour. It just seems like an hour. You give us 30 minutes and we'll give you the AP radio wire.

Back in the Hawkins era, WILM never bothered to do anything about agency spots on the audio stream - not that there were ever very many to worry about.
 
fred, I can't afford GPS, much less the only network where one can watch your namesake (Boomerang). Some people do live paycheck to paycheck BION. That I have DirecTV at all, well let me say it's due to God's grace.

George, thanks for filling us in on McLendon and "22 minutes". ;)

ixnay
 
ixnay said:
fred, I can't afford GPS, much less the only network where one can watch your namesake (Boomerang). Some people do live paycheck to paycheck BION. That I have DirecTV at all, well let me say it's due to God's grace.

George, thanks for filling us in on McLendon and "22 minutes". ;)

ixnay
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As with anything else, the price of GPS keeps coming down - and will come down.

Time was only 007 had GPS (Goldfinger), or pagers and car phones (From Russia, With Love).

When DirecTV launched 12 years ago, the price of a receiver was $600 ($400 for a second receiver). Computers started out for $3,000 up and online access was $6 an hour at 300 baud. People above the poverty line have access to all of them.

Stuff that was a luxury available only on high-end cars becomes standard equipment. GPS is here. The writing is on the wall for traffic on the ____s. It's only a matter of a time.

As I recall, DirecTV charges $5 a month extra for Boomerang. I've switched to FIOS: more channels, less money. Boomerang is included.
 
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