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ixnay said:When that day comes, expect the Dick Covington TOH and BOH fanfare to be mothballed. Sadly, I don't think he's available to cut new ones (RIP Dick). Besides, "From 16th and Spring Garden, this is News Radio, KYW 1060 Philadelphia" doesn't have much cachet IMO.
Oh, I suspect Dick will live on somehow...I am amazed his fanfares have lasted as long as they have, considering how long he's been retired. Funny thing is that, during a regular news shift, he'd trip over words more so than others such as Don Lancer, Bill Bransome and Harry Johnson.
They could simply drop the "from Independence Mall" from the track and they could still use it.
It will indeed sound strange if Dick's voice is no longer heard in those fanfares.
Richard in Allentown
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Jul
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I think the real reason why KYW-AM doesn't want to move to 1500 Spring Garden where CBS 3 and CW Philly will be in a few weeks because they don't want to change the current top of the hour ID which says "from Independence Mall, this is NewsRadio, KYW 1060 Philadelphia. If that's the case then the management at 1060 AM must be really dumber than I thought. Don't they realize that they are SISTER stations to CBS 3 and CW Philly 57? The people that are running including Steve Butler and David Yadgaroff 1060 AM should be fired NOW. I'm tired of the way they are running things at the station.
J
Jul
Guest
MY take on why 1060 is not joining CBS 3 and Channel 57 at their new studios
CORRECTED: I think the real reason why KYW-AM doesn't want to move to 1500 Spring Garden where CBS 3 and CW Philly will be in a few weeks because they don't want to change the current top of the hour ID which says "from Independence Mall, this is NewsRadio, KYW 1060 Philadelphia". If that's the case, then the management at 1060 AM must be really dumber than I thought. Don't they realize that they are SISTER stations to CBS 3 and CW Philly 57? The people that are running KYW NewsRadio including Steve Butler and David Yadgaroff should be fired NOW. I'm tired of the way they are running things at the station and the way the station sounds right now.
CORRECTED: I think the real reason why KYW-AM doesn't want to move to 1500 Spring Garden where CBS 3 and CW Philly will be in a few weeks because they don't want to change the current top of the hour ID which says "from Independence Mall, this is NewsRadio, KYW 1060 Philadelphia". If that's the case, then the management at 1060 AM must be really dumber than I thought. Don't they realize that they are SISTER stations to CBS 3 and CW Philly 57? The people that are running KYW NewsRadio including Steve Butler and David Yadgaroff should be fired NOW. I'm tired of the way they are running things at the station and the way the station sounds right now.
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imhomerjay
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Re: MY take on why 1060 is not joining CBS 3 and Channel 57 at their new studios
No business decision is going to be made because of a station ID that virtually no non-radio geek would realize had changed or been scrapped. Seriously. Nostalgia has a place and a purpose, but not when it comes to the bottom line.
It makes no difference that they're sister stations to the TV outlets, any more than it made a difference that 98 continued to be housed in channel 10's building for years after NBC took over.
Julius May said:
No business decision is going to be made because of a station ID that virtually no non-radio geek would realize had changed or been scrapped. Seriously. Nostalgia has a place and a purpose, but not when it comes to the bottom line.
It makes no difference that they're sister stations to the TV outlets, any more than it made a difference that 98 continued to be housed in channel 10's building for years after NBC took over.
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chuckydoll
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KYW-1060, Free FM moving
Confirmed this week in NERW. CBS should have used the move to add studios for WOGL-98.1, which is currently in Bala Cynwyd.
According to NERW the KYW Building will be torn down and replaced by a museum of American Jewish history scheduled to open in 2010.
Confirmed this week in NERW. CBS should have used the move to add studios for WOGL-98.1, which is currently in Bala Cynwyd.
According to NERW the KYW Building will be torn down and replaced by a museum of American Jewish history scheduled to open in 2010.
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Jul
Guest
Re: KYW-1060, Free FM moving
Why?chuckydoll said:
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eatspaste
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Re: MY take on why 1060 is not joining CBS 3 and Channel 57 at their new studios
(a) Multi-million dollar business decisions are not based on the audio of a legal ID.
(b) If I had to bet, I would think 1060 knows it's sister stations with WPSG and KYW-TV. Just a guess.
(c) You want to change the entire management structure of KYW because they might have to cut a new legal ID? {insert looping bashing-head-against-wall graphic here}
Julius May said:
(a) Multi-million dollar business decisions are not based on the audio of a legal ID.
(b) If I had to bet, I would think 1060 knows it's sister stations with WPSG and KYW-TV. Just a guess.
(c) You want to change the entire management structure of KYW because they might have to cut a new legal ID? {insert looping bashing-head-against-wall graphic here}
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eatspaste
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Re: KYW-1060, Free FM moving
Why? It would save CBS tons of money. If KYW-TV, WPSG, KYW, WIP, WPHT, WOGL, and WYSP were all under one roof, they wouldn't have to pay rent at 4th & Market and in Bala Cynwyd.
If a big newsmaker was in town, (s)he could do an interview on KYW-TV, walk down the hall and be on WPHT, then cut a soundbite for 1060. Big sports stories would be even better between the KYW's and WIP.
Julius May said:
Why? It would save CBS tons of money. If KYW-TV, WPSG, KYW, WIP, WPHT, WOGL, and WYSP were all under one roof, they wouldn't have to pay rent at 4th & Market and in Bala Cynwyd.
If a big newsmaker was in town, (s)he could do an interview on KYW-TV, walk down the hall and be on WPHT, then cut a soundbite for 1060. Big sports stories would be even better between the KYW's and WIP.
J
Jul
Guest
Re: KYW-1060, Free FM moving
I would contact the the 7 Viacom Philly stations about this. Good suggestion.eatspaste said:
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madcowzack
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Re: KYW-1060, Free FM moving
In the age of high speed internet, and even good ol' fashioned ISDN, it's not really a huge deal to pass audio files between stations - across town and across the country. (And there's also satellite, I suppose....)
Seems to me that the majority of most news makers prefer to have press conferences, or a scheduled stop, in a central location (or two) rather than trying to run all over town - that way they get ALL the media outlets (Comcast, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, Metro, the print media, etc.) to come to THEM. Then no one can cry that they're playing favorites with one company / network. That is, of course, unless they're in town to promote something - a movie, a product, whatever - and feel it's necessary to give extended air-time to stations they feel will better reach their intended audience ... and of course, they can always get on a cell phone and do an interview that way. I mean, they're probably in town for SOME reason - not just a random "Hey, I woke up this morning and felt like coming to Philadelphia to get one of those steak and cheese things ... what is it called? a cheese steak?" thing.
And correct me if I'm wrong - don't most companies write off a (large) percentage of rented space as a business or operating expense on their taxes? I know people who have home offices who do so ... probably a safe assumption that corporations do the same.
Also, it's not uncommon for station clusters to be in separate buildings. Say you needed 75,000 square feet of space for your stations, in total. If it's all pretty much the same cost (plus or minus a few bucks) per square foot, then what's the difference if you write one rent check as opposed to three or four for nearly same amount? An extra few cents for the checks? A longer commute for your employees? Neither are really deal breakers ...
But if it's all just about cost cutting, then a company (of any kind) should just rent space in another "cheaper rent district." I don't know that much about real estate, but I can't imagine office space costs the same in Woodlyn, Morton, Chester, Prospect Park or even Northeast or West Philadelphia as it does in Center City or Bala Cynwyd.
eatspaste said:
In the age of high speed internet, and even good ol' fashioned ISDN, it's not really a huge deal to pass audio files between stations - across town and across the country. (And there's also satellite, I suppose....)
Seems to me that the majority of most news makers prefer to have press conferences, or a scheduled stop, in a central location (or two) rather than trying to run all over town - that way they get ALL the media outlets (Comcast, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, Metro, the print media, etc.) to come to THEM. Then no one can cry that they're playing favorites with one company / network. That is, of course, unless they're in town to promote something - a movie, a product, whatever - and feel it's necessary to give extended air-time to stations they feel will better reach their intended audience ... and of course, they can always get on a cell phone and do an interview that way. I mean, they're probably in town for SOME reason - not just a random "Hey, I woke up this morning and felt like coming to Philadelphia to get one of those steak and cheese things ... what is it called? a cheese steak?" thing.
And correct me if I'm wrong - don't most companies write off a (large) percentage of rented space as a business or operating expense on their taxes? I know people who have home offices who do so ... probably a safe assumption that corporations do the same.
Also, it's not uncommon for station clusters to be in separate buildings. Say you needed 75,000 square feet of space for your stations, in total. If it's all pretty much the same cost (plus or minus a few bucks) per square foot, then what's the difference if you write one rent check as opposed to three or four for nearly same amount? An extra few cents for the checks? A longer commute for your employees? Neither are really deal breakers ...
But if it's all just about cost cutting, then a company (of any kind) should just rent space in another "cheaper rent district." I don't know that much about real estate, but I can't imagine office space costs the same in Woodlyn, Morton, Chester, Prospect Park or even Northeast or West Philadelphia as it does in Center City or Bala Cynwyd.
CBS Inc. is also consolidating some their New York radio stations under one roof. WFAN, WINS, and the former WNEW-FM will be moving into a complex near Times Square this summer. As for their properties in the Philadelphia area, it would have made more sense to relocate every station except KYW 1060 to the Bala Cynwyd area in order to save on the payroll city wage tax.
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madcowzack
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trolleyk said:
I think 3 stations in one building is livable. Six? Seven? Pushing it ... unless you have a HUGE building available. That's just my personal take on things, having worked in that kind of situation before (with six stations). It's not pretty, and made parking a nightmare - of course, that might've just been that building. I suppose there's got to be some kind of logistical reason(s) for a company putting their properties where they do - and obviously someone who's aware of the needs of their business thought it'd be better for the day to day operations, wage tax or not. But I'd imagine that a TV station with a full blown news department must have a small army working for them. Probably why WPVI has their own building. Besides, if you work in the city, you can always live in the 'burbs to save a bit of money - According to http://www.phila.gov/revenue - a city resident's rate is 4.26% - the non-resident rate is 3.7557%.
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