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KYW and Boulevard incident

R

radiophiler

Having been blissfully out of touch with local news while at work today, I tuned KYW 1060 in at 5:02 this afternoon when I got in my car to go home. I heard John Brown's traffic report mention the Boulevard was closed because of police activity. So I continued to listen for the top story at 5:03. The anchor introduced ... a KYW reporter in the newsroom monitoring the situation via a PENNDOT traffic cam. The report lasted less then a minute. Mention of a man claiming he had an SUV full of explosives. After the report - on to the stock market story.

In this post-9/11 world, I wanted to hear MUCH MORE about the man with a van that may or may not have been filled with explosives.

So I tuned to 87.7 to hear Channel 6's audio of the situation. Much better coverage, including a mention that they actually had a reporter on the scene instead of monitoring it at their studio on a PENNDOT traffic camera. Channel 6 covered the man's surrender live. I don't know whether KYW did because after the disappointing report at the top of the hour, I never tuned back.

Is it just me? Should I not expect more in this day and age from our major city's all-news radio station than a reporter monitoring the situation in studio from a traffic cam? And at 5 pm, the heart of afternoon drive!

What will we do when Channel 6 audio is no longer available on FM after the TV switchover next year? I hope some day their audio is available again on Internet radio that we'll be able to receive in our cars.

I'd really like some others' opinions on this. I was disappointed by KYW this afternoon. Anyone else? Even if you didn't hear it: What do you think of just covering it from the vantage of a traffic cam ... which conceivability could have gone out at any moment?
 
I think WPVI should pursue the license to 87.7 as either continued repeater of their TV signal or else as a viable FM music channel after the flip in February. would this be possible? the FCC should jump on it. I ask because I don't know if it's already been either sanctioned or banned!?

I know at STUTZ candy (among other businesses) if they didn't have B101 or Ben playing throughout the factory they would throw on 87.7 FM to "watch" the "soaps." I personally used to "watch" basketball, monday night football (pre-espn), golf and back in the day bowling on 87.7 FM. Anyone else know any oldtimers who still watches tv on the radio or does an example of this?
 
hykos said:
I think WPVI should pursue the license to 87.7 as either continued repeater of their TV signal or else as a viable FM music channel after the flip in February. would this be possible? the FCC should jump on it. I ask because I don't know if it's already been either sanctioned or banned!?

I know at STUTZ candy (among other businesses) if they didn't have B101 or Ben playing throughout the factory they would throw on 87.7 FM to "watch" the "soaps." I personally used to "watch" basketball, monday night football (pre-espn), golf and back in the day bowling on 87.7 FM. Anyone else know any oldtimers who still watches tv on the radio or does an example of this?
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I'm dreading the loss of WPVI on 87.7. I listen to the news (local or world) on the way home from work most nights, and on days when I have to make a long commute to Trenton, I listen to the end of Action News and the start of Good Morning America. Many times in the past, I've listened to Jeopadry, as did my late father when he would drive home then. Going way back to my college days, there was a mini riot outside my dorm one night--and channel 6 did one of those "breaking news" deals in the middle of the 11 pm Action News to report it. Driving home, my dad heard the report as I knew he would--I had called before he got there to report I was not one of the injured (or arrested). Just a couple of weeks ago, I took a red-eye flight home from a business trip and caught the 2 am replay of Action News.

In fact, I can't recall ever having a car--my own or, before that, my parents' cars--that didn't have a preset for 87.7. Being a radio geek, I'm already wondering what I'll put on my preset next February.
 
hykos said:
I think WPVI should pursue the license to 87.7 as either continued repeater of their TV signal or else as a viable FM music channel after the flip in February. would this be possible? the FCC should jump on it. I ask because I don't know if it's already been either sanctioned or banned!?
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Not possible, since WPVI will return to channel 6 for its digital signal in February, filling the entire 82-88 MHz spectrum with the DTV data stream.
 
Eh. I had channel 6 and KYW at the time and was thinking the same thing...until 6's Erin O'Hearn said she couldn't see anything from her vantage point near the scene and instead they sent it back to the studio for Rick and Monica describing what they saw from their helicopter shot. So -- the point of being there would have been...? 6 and 3 (I never watch 10) ended up sounding ridiculous on-scene "they're moving us back! they're moving us back!" -- but certainly did have good chopper shots.

Of course, had the thing 'blown up' -- figuratively/literally -- we might be talking differently. (Though who's to say KYW A--didn't have someone en route; or 2--had "police sources" like Walt Hunter always references just saying this is some nutcase, nothing to really be concerned with, get on with the rest of the news?)

(And incidentally, once I heard Pat Loeb describing the PennDOT camera shot, curiosity got the best of me, and I checked it out online. They had a GREAT, close-up angle of this guy.)

KYW tends to treat roadway issues as such, and as they do best (as much as we like to complain when 'they're not saying what we're seeing) -- on the 2s.

This incident today made for compelling TV, with the helicopter footage of this crazy dude, but on the radio -- just tell me where NOT to drive, and then let's get on with it (I'd much rather hear the good news about my 401(k), anyway).

These days, with deeper cuts likely at KYW, too, we can't wish for much more.
 
imhomerjay said:
I think WPVI should pursue the license to 87.7 as either continued repeater of their TV signal or else as a viable FM music channel after the flip in February.
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As someone else who listens to channel 6 on 87.7, it seems to me that with HD radio, WPVI should partner-up with one of the FMs in town and hop on an HD2 or HD3 channel somewhere.

Wow - an almost real and useful reason for people to buy an HD radio!
 
Stick WPVI's audio on WMMR-HD3. (At least the Action News broadcasts). Didn't WMMR simulcast Action News on 9-11?
 
I think the exact date 87.7 goes off is Febuary 9th of 09?
Also, what will happen when i put on this channel as of that date, just a bunch of white noise, kinda like IBOC hash?
Thanks
John
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I wonder how far WNYZ (Pulse 87) from New York will reach once WPVI signs off?
 
Wayne McMannors said:
I wonder how far WNYZ (Pulse 87) from New York will reach once WPVI signs off?
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There's a misunderstanding here of what's happening. WPVI isn't signing off. WPVI's analog signal is going away, but it will be replaced by a digital signal on the same channel. It will indeed sound like IBOC hash on an analog receiver...and if it does anything to WNYZ's signal, it will probably reduce its reach into central Jersey a bit.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Wayne McMannors said:
I wonder how far WNYZ (Pulse 87) from New York will reach once WPVI signs off?
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There's a misunderstanding here of what's happening. WPVI isn't signing off. WPVI's analog signal is going away, but it will be replaced by a digital signal on the same channel. It will indeed sound like IBOC hash on an analog receiver...and if it does anything to WNYZ's signal, it will probably reduce its reach into central Jersey a bit.
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Digital is much less power than the analog signal, and it will be spread all over the 82-88 mhz spectrum, so I think Pulse 87 will be listenable until Princeton, NJ. WPVI-DT's hash will have the same range as the Philly FM stations' IBOC hash.
 
87.7 info?

someone please correct me if i received wrong info? I heard the tv digital signals would be from channel 14 to 50 only! that's only channels on the now current UHF band! theese signals are already available from digital tv boxes from radio shack etc!
 
WPVI is on a digital channel which will use the exact same frequency space as their present analog channel, despite the fact that the lower-end of the VHF band is not the best for digital
 
the reason is because KYW is extremily liberal and they really don't want to concentrate on the issue of terrorism. They want us to think that we live in a pre 9/11 world. Mort pointently since this is an election year and obviously KYW is in the tank for Obama,they don't want to make terrorism an issue or God forbit a few people might vote Republican.

KYW is a joke always has been and always will be. Their traffic reports are notoriously wrong and their on air staff is smug.
 
waymar said:
the reason is because KYW is extremily liberal and they really don't want to concentrate on the issue of terrorism. They want us to think that we live in a pre 9/11 world. Mort pointently since this is an election year and obviously KYW is in the tank for Obama,they don't want to make terrorism an issue or God forbit a few people might vote Republican.

KYW is a joke always has been and always will be. Their traffic reports are notoriously wrong and their on air staff is smug.
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I think we have a winner for most ??? out there post of the year. Congratulations.
 
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