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Rustyfender

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I wanted to throw this out for discussion...
Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some point down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot on the FM side? Think of the extra listenership they could get versus the AM signal?
I'd also be curious for those who say "no" or "it will never happen" to be sure to state WHY.
I'm just proposing this for discussion purposes...just think it would be an awesome idea. I have a year old car so doubt my AM in my radio is faulty--but--I begin to loose signal on KYW going south anywhere past--say--ChaddsFord/Painters Crossing. I CAN GET a signal--but power lines and all interfere greatly with the signal making it barely listenable in the area of Kennett Square/Hockessin/SOUTH...and forget about New Hope or Levittown!!
 
> Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some point
> down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot on
> the FM side?

My simple answer (pure speculation): Eventual simulcast on WYSP-HD3 or WOGL-HD3.
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> > Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some point
>
> > down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot on
>
> > the FM side?
>
> My simple answer (pure speculation): Eventual simulcast on
> WYSP-HD3 or WOGL-HD3.
>

Agreed. 1010-WINS, KYW's sister-station in NYC, last month began simulcasting on 102.7-HD2.

Not sure why the OP's having much problems in those specific locations. Anywhere that you have the big 150' high tension lines you will have distortion of the signal as it is messing with the ground wave. KYW's TX is in Plymouth Meeting, near Stenton Ave. Chadds Ford shouldnt be in a null from that distance.<P ID="signature">______________

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> > > Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some
> point
> >
> > > down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot
> on
> >
> > > the FM side?
> >
> > My simple answer (pure speculation): Eventual simulcast on
>
> > WYSP-HD3 or WOGL-HD3.

since HD radio will likely NEVER take off, that is not something to even consider. kyw's signal will travel better via cellular , wimax, wi-fi, or other forms of wireless internet.
 
> > > > Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some
> > point
> > >
> > > > down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a
> spot
> > on
> > >
> > > > the FM side?
> > >
> > > My simple answer (pure speculation): Eventual simulcast
> on
> >
> > > WYSP-HD3 or WOGL-HD3.
>
> since HD radio will likely NEVER take off, that is not
> something to even consider. kyw's signal will travel better
> via cellular , wimax, wi-fi, or other forms of wireless
> internet.
>

Yeah, how many listeners do you think all these new HD stations have? 30?
 
KYW-AM&FM

> I wanted to throw this out for discussion...
> Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some point
> down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot on
> the FM side? Think of the extra listenership they could get
> versus the AM signal?

I'd suggest that they not switch AM for FM, but, ADD an FM to the AM. They could simulcast the exact programming (one staff for two stations, no separate programming to coordinate, one sales staff and a killer combo buy for the advertisers). They'd increase their reach as well as their sound-quality. FM lacks a skywave, but, the ability to "go where AM has troubles doing so" sure as heck makes up for the lack thereof.

Now...the big question: which of their FMs would they choose to use? Or, which local signal might they purchase for that purpose?

Thoughts?
 
> > since HD radio will likely NEVER take off, that is not
> > something to even consider. kyw's signal will travel
> better
> > via cellular , wimax, wi-fi, or other forms of wireless
> > internet.
> >
>
> Yeah, how many listeners do you think all these new HD
> stations have? 30?
>
If it will never take off, why are companies spending a lot of resources to see that it will? They've done research and tests and backed up their idea.
Time will tell. I believe it will take off. I know a lot of folks who
can't afford XM or Sirius and this is a good option. No monthly fees!
 
> I know a lot
> of folks who
> can't afford XM or Sirius and this is a good option. No
> monthly fees!
>
Yeah, but sat rad gear is less costly, more portable, and the variety of programming options is much greater. It may be hard for consumers to justify hundreds of dollars for new gear just to get a handful of new stations -- especially in smaller towns with fewer existing stations to begin with.
 
How many listeners do you think FM stations had back in the 1940's and early 50's? It is no different with HD today. It takes time to sell a new product.

> > > > > Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some
> > > point
> > > >
> > > > > down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a
> > spot
> > > on
> > > >
> > > > > the FM side?
> > > >
> > > > My simple answer (pure speculation): Eventual
> simulcast
> > on
> > >
> > > > WYSP-HD3 or WOGL-HD3.
> >
> > since HD radio will likely NEVER take off, that is not
> > something to even consider. kyw's signal will travel
> better
> > via cellular , wimax, wi-fi, or other forms of wireless
> > internet.
> >
>
> Yeah, how many listeners do you think all these new HD
> stations have? 30?
>
 
> Yeah, but sat rad gear is less costly, more portable, and
> the variety of programming options is much greater. It may
> be hard for consumers to justify hundreds of dollars for new
> gear just to get a handful of new stations -- especially in
> smaller towns with fewer existing stations to begin with.
>
Exactly. I haven't invested in satellite yet, but would pick that over HD because of knowing--wherever I go to travel or live--I'll be assured of the same wider array of choices. Nothing about HD radio has even remotely made me interested in purchasing it.
 
Re: KYW-AM&FM

.
>
> Now...the big question: which of their FMs would they choose
> to use? Or, which local signal might they purchase for that
> purpose?
>
> Thoughts?
>
Couldn't they have kept WMMR to do that? Would have the FCC allowed them to keep WMMR and simulcast KYW instead of selling it? I'm glad they didn't because we wouldn't have WMMR now, Gadzooks!
 
> I wanted to throw this out for discussion...
> Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some point
> down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot on
> the FM side? Think of the extra listenership they could get
> versus the AM signal?
> I'd also be curious for those who say "no" or "it will never
> happen" to be sure to state WHY.
> I'm just proposing this for discussion purposes...just think
> it would be an awesome idea. I have a year old car so doubt
> my AM in my radio is faulty--but--I begin to loose signal on
> KYW going south anywhere past--say--ChaddsFord/Painters
> Crossing. I CAN GET a signal--but power lines and all
> interfere greatly with the signal making it barely
> listenable in the area of Kennett
> Square/Hockessin/SOUTH...and forget about New Hope or
> Levittown!!
>


Many of the post were legit suggestions, But Why??? but I can get it on my internet out here on the west coast.
 
Why not? It seems to work for WTOP.

By the way, the KYW-FM was at 92.5. in the early 50's.
Before that KYW-FM was at 100.3 in the late 40's.
Even earlier, Westinghouse was operating W57PH at 45.7 from the KYW building (now Temple's Center City building).
 
> > I wanted to throw this out for discussion...
> > Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some point
> > down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot on
>
> > the FM side? Think of the extra listenership they could
> get
> > versus the AM signal?
> > I'd also be curious for those who say "no" or "it will
> never
> > happen" to be sure to state WHY.
> > I'm just proposing this for discussion purposes...just
> think
> > it would be an awesome idea. I have a year old car so
> doubt
> > my AM in my radio is faulty--but--I begin to loose signal
> on
> > KYW going south anywhere past--say--ChaddsFord/Painters
> > Crossing. I CAN GET a signal--but power lines and all
> > interfere greatly with the signal making it barely
> > listenable in the area of Kennett
> > Square/Hockessin/SOUTH...and forget about New Hope or
> > Levittown!!
> >
>
>
> Many of the post were legit suggestions, But Why??? but I
> can get it on my internet out here on the west coast.
>
I have trouble getting kyw1060.com in my car.
 
> My simple answer (pure speculation): Eventual simulcast on
> WYSP-HD3 or WOGL-HD3.
>
"Dstroyer"---great thought, thanks! I never even considered the possiblity but sure as hell makes sense!
 
> >
> If it will never take off, why are companies spending a
> lot of resources to see that it will? They've done research
> and tests and backed up their idea.
> Time will tell. I believe it will take off. I know a lot
> of folks who
> can't afford XM or Sirius and this is a good option. No
> monthly fees!
>

while i would certainly LIKE to see HD succeed, it most likely won't.

reason # 1: auto manufacturers ARE NOT even talking with the HD alliance about putting them in cars. they are happy with sat rad.

reason # 2: wireless radio via cell phones, wi-max and wifi internet will be cheaper and more universal. more choice, more customization, more flexibility

reason # 3: terrestrial radio management is TERRIFIED about HD and Internet. it totally disrupts their comfortable world of big, growing profits the old fashioned way.

reason #4 : radio is investing in HD because of the pressures of wall street.
in a world quickly going digital, radio has to do "something"

summary: traditional radio isn't going away. it's just going to be minimalized.
which means no more growth. it is no longer the only game in town.
the party is over.
 
If I were forced to argue this point, I might mention that radio wasn't ruled by the immediate almighty dollar back in the 40's and 50's.

> How many listeners do you think FM stations had back in the
> 1940's and early 50's? It is no different with HD today.
> It takes time to sell a new product.
 
> If it will never take off, why are companies spending a
> lot of resources to see that it will?

Desperate last-ditch attempt to save the flagging terrestrial radio industry?

> They've done research
> and tests and backed up their idea.
> Time will tell. I believe it will take off.

I hope it does. I think it's a great idea but I feel like it would have stood a better chance for success if it had come about five years ago.

> I know a lot
> of folks who
> can't afford XM or Sirius and this is a good option. No
> monthly fees!

Personally, I can afford satellite radio...I just don't want to. If HD gives me more options on terrestrial radio, I think that's great. But I also don't want to pay for replacing my stereo receiver and my car stereo.

There are plenty of people paying for satellite and even more people foresaking terrestrial radio for iPods and other forms of entertainment. Time is of the essence: If the industry wants HD to be their saving grace--or at least buy them some more time--they'd better pump some cash in and bring the prices down for these HD receivers!
 
If I were to purchase one, it would be HD. I like how it's still locally programmed (in most cases) and I like how it's free after the initial purchase of some ridiculously expensive receivers to replace my existing ones.

The choices, so far, aren't exactly what I'm looking for. But HD is my preference.

> Exactly. I haven't invested in satellite yet, but would
> pick that over HD because of knowing--wherever I go to
> travel or live--I'll be assured of the same wider array of
> choices. Nothing about HD radio has even remotely made me
> interested in purchasing it.
>
 
> > > I wanted to throw this out for discussion...
> > > Do any of you think it may be in the offing at some
> point
> > > down the road that KYW-1060 would switch over to a spot
> on
> >
> > > the FM side? Think of the extra listenership they could
> > get
> > > versus the AM signal?
> > > I'd also be curious for those who say "no" or "it will
> > never
> > > happen" to be sure to state WHY.
> > > I'm just proposing this for discussion purposes...just
> > think
> > > it would be an awesome idea. I have a year old car so
> > doubt
> > > my AM in my radio is faulty--but--I begin to loose
> signal
> > on
> > > KYW going south anywhere past--say--ChaddsFord/Painters
> > > Crossing. I CAN GET a signal--but power lines and all
> > > interfere greatly with the signal making it barely
> > > listenable in the area of Kennett
> > > Square/Hockessin/SOUTH...and forget about New Hope or
> > > Levittown!!
> > >
> >
> >
> > Many of the post were legit suggestions, But Why??? but I
> > can get it on my internet out here on the west coast.
> >
> I have trouble getting kyw1060.com in my car.
>


So, you'll wait for WIFI or WiMAX , which is around the corner.
 
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