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KYW Jingle on ABC News

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I'm sitting here in my workstation, listening to the noon ABC network newscast on WABC. The news reporter says "what are most people doing these days while riding in their car?" The next thing I hear is "KYW, Newsradio, 1060" the KYW jingle! Next was a WINS jingle, follwed by the WBBM call sign.

The answer to the question was, of course, they are listening to the radio. But whoever developed that story for ABC News, ah, perhaps, should have used jingles from ABC stations and not CBS?

But, hey, as a fan of KYW, glad to hear the jingle anywhere!
 
ABC doesn't own anymore radio stations with the exception of Radio Disney...and some of the ESPN stations.
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But to jh's point, you would expect the writer of this story to use ABC News Radio affiliates, WABC, WJR, WLS carry that feed I think.

The point of the story was most drivers still listen to AM/FM and the percentage of SAT and digital app users in the car is quite small. Heavily skewed to the younger generation though. All of the sound bites used were from AM newsers - interesting.
 
KYW **is** an ABC News affiliate.

Now that network no longer owns any news/talk radio stations, the legacy ABC News outlets listed above are no more ABC than is KYW. So what difference does it make?
 
Since 1968, ABC has had multiple affiliates in major markets. See the "four-in-one" split from way back then.

KYW has been the markets' ABC-I affiliate, for the most part, since the late 1960s.
 
I'm not going to claim to know the intricacies of KYW's network affiliations-- but I don't think the statement above is correct.

To be designated a market's primary ABC-I outlet, I'm pretty sure a station had to clear the TOH. As far as I can remember, KYW never cleared any TOH cast.

To use the phrase, "...the market's ABC-I affiliate" indicates that there has only been-- or could only be-- one at a time. If that's the case, it's definitely not true. WWDB carried ABC-I for YEARS.

My memory may be fading, but I don't remember hearing ABC pieces on KYW until as recently as the late 1980s. Prior to then, I heard lots from NBC Radio. There were a few years during which both were heard, just like now with pieces airing from ABC, CBS, and CNN.

Does anybody remember if WWDB cleared a different of the ABC networks prior to going Talk in '75? And was the station clearing ABC-I TOH right out of the gates as a talk station? Why or why not? (Just kidding on the last question.)
 
A station can be an ABC or Westwood One or CBS affiliate without carrying ANY of the network's programming. All they require of stations is that they carry their commercials in-daypart. It's all about the commercials - and don't ever forget that.
 
George Brusstar said:
Does anybody remember if WWDB cleared a different of the ABC networks prior to going Talk in '75? And was the station clearing ABC-I TOH right out of the gates as a talk station? Why or why not? (Just kidding on the last question.)
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You've really gotta bring back the show, George... ::)
 
George Brusstar said:
I'm not going to claim to know the intricacies of KYW's network affiliations-- but I don't think the statement above is correct.

To be designated a market's primary ABC-I outlet, I'm pretty sure a station had to clear the TOH. As far as I can remember, KYW never cleared any TOH cast.

To use the phrase, "...the market's ABC-I affiliate" indicates that there has only been-- or could only be-- one at a time. If that's the case, it's definitely not true. WWDB carried ABC-I for YEARS.

My memory may be fading, but I don't remember hearing ABC pieces on KYW until as recently as the late 1980s. Prior to then, I heard lots from NBC Radio. There were a few years during which both were heard, just like now with pieces airing from ABC, CBS, and CNN.

Does anybody remember if WWDB cleared a different of the ABC networks prior to going Talk in '75? And was the station clearing ABC-I TOH right out of the gates as a talk station? Why or why not? (Just kidding on the last question.)
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WRCP was the first ABC/I affiliate that I remember in Philly. I don't know if they had the affil from the beginning in '68 or not, but they had it by the early '70s. Sometime in the mid-'70s KYW picked up the ABC/I deal. They never ran the TOH news but they did clear some other programming--Lou Boda's sports commentary ran right after KYW's 6:15 PM sports, fr'ex.

As for WWDB, they started out in the talk format as an independent, then became a Mutual affiliate after a couple years. They broke it off with Mutual in '79 or '80. I think DB dropped Larry King's overnight show and that led to bad blood between the station and the network. After that DB poached the NBC affiliation away from WFLN; that may have been at the beginning of 1981. I think that lasted about a year and a half, and then NBC moved to KYW, WWDB picked up ABC/I and KYW got some other kind of ABC deal, maybe ABC Direction.
 
KYW **is** an ABC News affiliate.
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Of course they are, as is WINS. To my knowledge WBBM is not.

So what difference does it make?
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The difference is the reporter, likely knowing his story would air during the TOH newscast, chose to highlight 2 stations who *might* carry the piece and 1 station that would definitely not vs 3 stations that clear ABC’s TOH like the heritage ones I mentioned.

So Chicago heard WBBM promoted on WLS, NY heard WINS promoted on WABC and one person in Philly heard the KYW jingle on WABC ahead of Rush, probably because it comes in better than WPHT in his office bldg. ;)
 
None of which really makes much of an impact. A passing reference that was likely background noise to listeners? Irrelevant to pretty much everyone.
 
Macy93 said:
So Chicago heard WBBM promoted on WLS, NY heard WINS promoted on WABC and one person in Philly heard the KYW jingle on WABC ahead of Rush, probably because it comes in better than WPHT in his office bldg. ;)
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Or listens online in Philly to WABC because pissed off that WPHT dropped Glenn Beck & Sean Hannity. That way you don't have to switch back and forth between wabc.com and cbsphilly.com. Rush is online on WPHT's website even when Phillies are on the radio on 1210.
 
imhomerjay said:
None of which really makes much of an impact. A passing reference that was likely background noise to listeners? Irrelevant to pretty much everyone.
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I heard the montage once, while commuting home. A little (just a little) shocking to hear the KY' jingle somewhere other than 1060, but why should it set off alarm bells?

ixnay
 
It sets off alarm bells because KYW listeners have been hearing thta jingle for 30+ years. And it makes the ears perk up when we hear it elsewhere.
 
"Perking up" (assuming much attention is being paid beyond radiophiles) does not equal a reason for alarm bells.
 
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