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To buy that, I'd have to believe that there'd be some sort of power to change the tide by Salem programming these marginal signals. The majority of listeners of any ethnicity or political views aren't looking for or listening to their programs.
Because their current programming is in English. It's not far-fetcheded to believe Salem wanted to get in on a growing and emerging market of Spanish speaking conservative Hispanics.
People freaking out over the Soros/Audacy connection too, ignoring the fact Audacy owns relatively few talk outlets to begin with, and aren't suddenly going to flip to unknown, un-sellable shows simply because of an investor/shareholder. Come on. They still are attempting to make money. It's not Pacifica, where ideology is above all.
Don't underestimate just how powerful ads or even small segments can have on the masses. Sinclair TV stations have successfully hidden political influences within their segments.

All it takes is your local on-air personalities reading scripts from management to push for or against certain topics.
 
I was totally kidding! I’m in Grand Prairie by I-20 and 99.1 seemed to come in a lot better when they were running HD. LMN seems to have shut it off for now, but they’re still running HD during the daytime on 1270.

99.1 and 105.7 also seem to have very similar coverage areas. I’m guessing the demographics within the coverage area favor 105.7’s format, as there are some days where I can’t even pick up 105.7 in the car on the southern side of the metroplex. This even happens on days with minimal tropospheric ducting.
KFZO is a slightly weaker facility than KNRB...KFZO technically does not meet a full class C standard as it 100 kw but off a 1138' stick (a class C0 signal at those facilities). The have a construction permit to meet a class C standard by moving up to a 1588' tower height that would add a few more miles to its primary signal contour that would more mirror coverage like KRNB.
 
That's not an achievement. They did this because they had politically motivated masters funding this charade.

The motivation obviously wasn't political, but aimed towards increasing minority ownership of media. The fact that they've been unsuccessful has nothing to do with the fact that they happen to be minorities or the source of their funding. It has to do with lack of experience.
Their only achievement has been blocking Salem from profiting and growing the conservative Hispanic base (which seems futile IMO.
As others who know the Hispanic audience have said, if that was the intent, AM radio was not the way to do it. So yes, it was futile and ill-conceived, as other AM conservative stations have shown.
The owner taking over his dad and being Hispanic doesn't mean that the target audience is Hispanic. None of the programming is in Spanish.
Because second generation Hispanics (including the owner) speak English.

There was sabotage to stop Salem from trying to profit and potentially grow the conservative Hispanic base.
The only thing that happened was a group of 20 stations were sold to a different group. If Salem had a plan to start a conservative Hispanic format, they still own hundreds of similar weak AM stations, and they own a syndication company to offer such programming to lots of other money-losing AM stations. As I've said throughout this thread, this happened at the same time that Salem was experiencing huge financial setbacks, forcing them to sell multiple stations, including a few profitable Christian music stations, as well as their company headquarters. So to assume they were in a position to carry out any plan to launch new programming, particularly on such a weak base of stations, is fanciful.
Big money DNC saw the threat so they gave two DNC Hispanic puppets money and got them to outbid Salem.

There is no DNC money in this group. There is an investment company that is distantly related to Soros. Not the same thing.

They just lost their ceo. At this point, anyone who still believes that they know what they're doing or that none of this was politically motivated is living in denial.
No one's saying they know what they're doing. If they were politically motivated, they would have done something political with the stations. They haven't. Their CEO resigned because she knew as much about radio as the two founders, which is nothing.
 
I read Chuck's posts in that thread, and it didn't address the fact that Salem doesn't need to own stations to syndicate their shows. They've managed to get their English shows cleared in open markets. The fact that two years have passed, and they haven't moved forward on this idea in any way on any station shows how serious they were about it.
How many conservative Spanish language talk stations are there in the US to pick up syndication? Or just talk in general for that matter?

This is why they wanted the stations. There are no outlets to syndicate to.
The only advantage of this package was that it was in fact a package. There are lots of individual AMs available right now at bargain prices, including two I know about in NYC.
If this was the case, then why did LMN overpay for the Univision package?

Can't have your cake and eat it too.
What we know is if you want to reach Hispanics, AM radio is not the way to go.
Sure. But older conservatives are still more likely to use AM than younger liberals. I think it's safe to assume the same idea applies to the Hispanic general population.
The fact is LMN bought the stations, and they're running them in a non-political way, not forcing opinions on anyone.
Not because they don't want to. But because of sheer incompetence. They took over KLAT a long time ago and it is still simulcasting KQBU-FM.
Maybe that's a mistake. But to put a political spin on this ignores the fact that they're not running these stations to promote a political ideology.
As a matter of fact, they haven't done anything to this failing group of stations Univision unloaded. They all still have the same formats as before when they were losing money for Univision.

Why do you think the CEO has been replaced?
 
How many conservative Spanish language talk stations are there in the US to pick up syndication? Or just talk in general for that matter?

That's the wrong question. The question is how many AM stations are looking for national programming that they could use to reach a new audience and new advertisers? This is the question the sports betting people asked. There was no sports betting as a format until they created it. Same with Spanish talk. But I mentioned Radio Mambi in Miami, which is a Spanish conservative talk station. There are several more.
If this was the case, then why did LMN overpay for the Univision package?
They had cash, didn't know anything about radio, and wanted to close a deal. Univision wanted cash and wanted to unload the stations. I'm not aware of the terms of the Salem offer. Was it cash? The fact that a company like Salem with experience in AM ownership was even interested in such properties says a lot about Salem. Maybe they're not as smart as others think.

But older conservatives are still more likely to use AM than younger liberals. I think it's safe to assume the same idea applies to the Hispanic general population.
I'm not an expert in Hispanic radio, but I would imagine advertisers view older Hispanics the way they view older non-Hispanics. So I don't see this as a marketable audience to build a network around.

Why do you think the CEO has been replaced?

She hasn't been replaced. She resigned, for the reason I have before.
 
Or maybe it was the other way around. The radio novices wanted to use their minority status to get into media ownership, something the FCC is trying to promote, and they sought out financing that didn't come with high interest rates and a lot of strings. Something wrong with that?
Yes, when you have two inexperienced political "organizers" trying to start a radio company based on absolute dog facilities for the most part.
Where can people go to get financing for broadcasting? Banks won't loan them money. The SBA won't loan them money. Bain won't loan them money. They all know radio is a bad investment.
Maybe there is a message here: don't buy a radio station or a radio group.

When we see that there are only a handful of companies world wide making AM transmitters... and I believe only one in the whole Western Hemisphere, perhaps the issue is "awareness". AM radio is the buggy whip of media.
And high powered politicians attempted to use their government positions to get the FCC to deny the transfer for totally bogus reasons.
No, just a bunch of conservative politicians in South Florida who are, justifiably, frightened of anything that smells like the actions that expelled them from Cuba... maybe even killing or imprisoning relatives. And now, the Venezuelan refugees as well as those from Nicaragua and, increasingly, Colombia, Ecuador and Perú have the same feelings.

My example is a friend who saw Castro's secret police arrive at her home where they shot her father dead for teaching about democracy at the university. That sort of thing instills long lasting fears.
Since the politicians brought it up, why did Salem want to buy those stations? For public service or political purposes?
To make money.
 
The motivation obviously wasn't political, but aimed towards increasing minority ownership of media.
Their goal was political. If that was truly their goal, then they would have chosen people that have the will, motivation, and, most importantly, the experience to launch a minority owned company. And there are several people in the radio industry that fit this bill. Yet they were all skipped over in favor of these two democratic operatives?

At this point, you're choosing to not look at what's in front of you.
The fact that they've been unsuccessful has nothing to do with the fact that they happen to be minorities or the source of their funding. It has to do with lack of experience.
No one has blamed their "labels" as women, Hispanic, or liberal for the source of their failure. Everyone that has been critical of this group has always pointed out at their lack of experience.

David Gleason applied for a job just to see what kind of company they were running and they didn't even give the man the courtesy of a follow up call or email.
As others who know the Hispanic audience have said, if that was the intent, AM radio was not the way to do it. So yes, it was futile and ill-conceived,
They were successful in blocking Salem. Everything after that has been a failure.
as other AM conservative stations have shown.
Which AM conservative spanish stations have failed?
Because second generation Hispanics (including the owner) speak English.
But again, nothing about this station says they are directly targeting Hispanic listeners. You're just pointing at a factoid thinking it makes a point. It doesn't.
The only thing that happened was a group of 20 stations were sold to a different group. If Salem had a plan to start a conservative Hispanic format, they still own hundreds of similar stations,
You're oversimplifying things to fit your narrative.

You know very well that there was value to this group of stations. They were established and already had a small listener base to start with.

Randomly flipping several stations across the country isn't going to have the same effect for Salem.

and they own a syndication company to offer such programming to lots of other money-losing AM stations.
Again I ask, how many conservative Spanish talk stations are in this country?
As I've said throughout this thread, this happened at the same time that Salem was experiencing huge financial setbacks, forcing them to sell multiple stations, including a few profitable Christian music stations, as well as their company headquarters. So to assume they were in a position to carry out any plan to launch new programming, particularly on such a weak base of stations, is fanciful.
Oh, but we are to believe that two DNC operatives with zero radio experience can get financial support from investment firms, but Salem can't?

The truth is that LMN overpaid and Salem likely didn't think the risk was worth it at that point.
There is no DNC money in this group. There is an investment company that is distantly related to Soros. Not the same thing.
Now you're just trolling.
No one's saying they know what they're doing. If they were politically motivated, they would have done something political with the stations.
Incompetence goes a long way.
They haven't. Their CEO resigned because she knew as much about radio as the two founders, which is nothing.
I'm not inclined to believe that non-partisan investment firms wanted to see their cash burn. Do you really think a group of investors saw the CEO and founders backgrounds and said "were getting our money's worth!".
 
Maybe there is a message here: don't buy a radio station or a radio group.

No disagreement from me. But as we both know, the FCC is trying to motivate minority broadcast ownership. Of course, they also don't know what they're doing or how to get anyone to invest in things.
To make money.

If so, they're just as foolish as the two women at LMN. There's no money in these stations. That's why Univision sold them.
 
How many conservative Spanish language talk stations are there in the US to pick up syndication? Or just talk in general for that matter?
All efforts, past and present, over the last 30 years have shown you can not do national talk syndication. The differences in the interests of various immigrant groups are too extreme, as are the differences in language usage, accent and word meaning.
This is why they wanted the stations. There are no outlets to syndicate to.
And even if there were, you can't do national syndication of shows in Spanish.
If this was the case, then why did LMN overpay for the Univision package?
Because they did not have enough knowledge to even know that AM usage among Hispanics is even less than among the general market. They were idealistic and not realistic.
Sure. But older conservatives are still more likely to use AM than younger liberals. I think it's safe to assume the same idea applies to the Hispanic general population.
Not really. The government in Mexico decided AM was dead over a decade ago and proceeded to help about 80% of all AMs move to FM. AM is dead everywhere in Latin America except, to some extent, Argentina.
As a matter of fact, they haven't done anything to this failing group of stations Univision unloaded. They all still have the same formats as before when they were losing money for Univision.
That is because they did not hire competent top level management to put together some kind of plan. They are looking to get the tires retreaded when the issue is a burnt out engine.
Why do you think the CEO has been replaced?
No knowledge of radio, and even less of Spanish language radio for first generation immigrants in the U.S.
 
That's the wrong question. The question is how many AM stations are looking for national programming that they could use to reach a new audience and new advertisers?
Well, name them.
This is the question the sports betting people asked. There was no sports betting as a format until they created it. Same with Spanish talk.
At least you now understand why Salem wanted to try conservative Spanish talk.
But I mentioned Radio Mambi in Miami, which is a Spanish conservative talk station. There are several more.
Name them.
They had cash, didn't know anything about radio, and wanted to close a deal.
And why do you think they had the cash? (Hint, they're both well known DNC operatives).
Univision wanted cash and wanted to unload the stations.
They were stations bleeding cash.
I'm not aware of the terms of the Salem offer. Was it cash?
All we know is that LMN outbid and overpaid for the group of AM stations.
The fact that a company like Salem with experience in AM ownership was even interested in such properties says a lot about Salem. Maybe they're not as smart as others think.
Could be. But LMN entered the bidding war with DNC money so we wouldn't find out.
I'm not an expert in Hispanic radio, but I would imagine advertisers view older Hispanics the way they view older non-Hispanics. So I don't see this as a marketable audience to build a network around.
We will never know.
She hasn't been replaced. She resigned, for the reason I have before.
She replaced, resigned. With all due respect, you can't be this obtuse.
 
That's the wrong question. The question is how many AM stations are looking for national programming that they could use to reach a new audience and new advertisers? This is the question the sports betting people asked. There was no sports betting as a format until they created it. Same with Spanish talk. But I mentioned Radio Mambi in Miami, which is a Spanish conservative talk station. There are several more.
All in Miami.

And there is a mistaken view that Radio Mambí is "conservative". It is Anti-Castro, and anti-Socialist. When talking to refugees from Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that have gone or are going far to the left, that is the only driving factor.

The terms "liberal" and "conservative" don't work in Latin America.
They had cash, didn't know anything about radio, and wanted to close a deal. Univision wanted cash and wanted to unload the stations. I'm not aware of the terms of the Salem offer. Was it cash? The fact that a company like Salem with experience in AM ownership was even interested in such properties says a lot about Salem. Maybe they're not as smart as others think.
They believed they had an opportunity for mostly paid programming in Spanish. I think they were mistake, but they had the financing but did not equal the Soros group's offer.
I'm not an expert in Hispanic radio, but I would imagine advertisers view older Hispanics the way they view older non-Hispanics. So I don't see this as a marketable audience to build a network around.
Almost all buys are 18-49 or some subset. Families form at a younger age, and the massive flow of immigrants in the last 4 years has almost entirely been children and 18-34's.

But Spanish talk can be done for 25-49, because in the U.S. the formula that works talks about social issues related to immigration and living in a new society... it talks about family and how kids will adapt to the United States... it talks about religion and faith and culture and heritage... and it talks about futból. But it can't do that nationally due to the different language, culture and values of immigrants from different nations.
She hasn't been replaced. She resigned, for the reason I have before.
It sure sounds like an "induced" resignation. Nothing was happening.
 
Their goal was political.

Let me say this again: If their goal was political, they would have done something political with the stations by now. We're less than 6 months before an election. If they thought they could use these stations for political purposes, they would have done something. They haven't. However, Salem's goals were political, if I'm to believe you, and their intent was to influence voters before an election. So if anyone had a political goal here, it was Salem.

Oh, but we are to believe that two DNC operatives with zero radio experience can get financial support from investment firms, but Salem can't?

You have to know who to ask for money. The women did. Obviously Salem doesn't. If Spanish conservative talk is such a huge profit source, I personally know of ten people who I could turn to for funding. They could have delivered $100 million in base funding. But apparently Salem didn't reach out. iIn the meantime, Salem has been forced to sell some profitable FM Christian stations as well as their headquarters.

I'm not inclined to believe that non-partisan investment firms wanted to see their cash burn. Do you really think a group of investors saw the CEO and founders backgrounds and said "were getting our money's worth!".
In my view, this was not a conventional investment. They're not looking to get paid back. This is more of a donation to a minority owned business. They knew who they were giving the money to, and how it was going to be spent, and they gave it anyway.

I don't think this CO was fired. I think she could see the water rising around her, and didn't want to go down with the ship.
 
But LMN entered the bidding war with DNC money so we wouldn't find out.
Once again, no DNC money. For some reason, you think George Soros is the DNC. He is not. Please try to get over this confusion.

The RNC also has access to hundreds of millions of dollars, and they too could have helped in buying the stations if they saw value.

We have no factual knowledge of any ''bidding war.'' If you have any, please post it.
She replaced, resigned. With all due respect, you can't be this obtuse
Replaced means there's someone new. There isn't. You can't be this obtuse.
 
Once again, no DNC money. For some reason, you think George Soros is the DNC. He is not. Please try to get over this confusion.
I think we all believe that Soros and the DNC march to the same drummer. Same goal posts, different uniform.
The RNC also has access to hundreds of millions of dollars, and they too could have helped in buying the stations if they saw value.
Assuming they even thought about it, the likely first step would have been to find an industry expert or two and pay for an overview. There are a number of us who could have put together "highlights" overnight and a full report in a week or two.

And the folks related to Soros and his money did not, either.
We have no factual knowledge of any ''bidding war.'' If you have any, please post it.
Salem put in a bid. LMN bid higher, Salem revised, LMN did and Salem dropped out. It only takes two "nations" to have a war.
Replaced means there's someone new. There isn't. You can't be this obtuse.
Replaced in-house. They say it is temporary, but I would not bet money against the whole thing being dissolved. And the Democratic Party interests that may have gotten Soros' money involved have much bigger issues now than a bunch of dog radio stations.
 
I think we all believe that Soros and the DNC march to the same drummer. Same goal posts, different uniform.
Both political parties have access to billions. If the Salem bid was serious, and they just needed another few million, I'm sure some rich political donor would have provided. Republicans aren't poor. If they want to do something, there's lots of money available.
Assuming they even thought about it, the likely first step would have been to find an industry expert or two and pay for an overview.
You don't think anyone at Salem has access to top people at the RNC? Really? The RNC seems to know that they can buy lots of airtime from Salem, because they do.
Salem put in a bid. LMN bid higher, Salem revised, LMN did and Salem dropped out. It only takes two "nations" to have a war.

I have seen no actual proof of this. No dollar amount. Just rumors from you and Chuck Tiller. What we DO know is that Salem was in financal trouble at the time, their stock was trading under a dollar, and they were in no position to buy anything.

As you know, several members of Congress challenged this sale with the FCC. If there was anything political or illegal, it would have come out. The FCC approved the sale, and the members of Congress wilted away. They had no evidence of anything, and it was just more chicken little squawking.
 
Both political parties have access to billions. If the Salem bid was serious, and they just needed another few million, I'm sure some rich political donor would have provided. Republicans aren't poor. If they want to do something, there's lots of money available.
But I don't think that any people who might facilitate Republican assistance would have thought that such a purchase of a "radio dog pound" would be practical, useful or viable.
You don't think anyone at Salem has access to top people at the RNC? Really? The RNC seems to know that they can buy lots of airtime from Salem, because they do.
But Salem is a public company, and to facilitate such a deal the RNC would have had to prod its donor pool and encourage someone to buy. Again, the issue is that anyone who understands business... and not just politics... would not have given that idea even a minute of thought.
I have seen no actual proof of this. No dollar amount. Just rumors from you and Chuck Tiller. What we DO know is that Salem was in financal trouble at the time, their stock was trading under a dollar, and they were in no position to buy anything.
They had the financing and the money available for their bids. They chose not to go higher. I can't say more as I was still under agreements with one of the parties at the time.
As you know, several members of Congress challenged this sale with the FCC. If there was anything political or illegal, it would have come out.
Yes, the conservative people from South Florida insisted that their representatives "do something". They went through the motions, with all of us knowing that the political affiliation of a licensee is not something the FCC even requires on its forms.
The FCC approved the sale, and the members of Congress wilted away. They had no evidence of anything, and it was just more chicken little squawking.
Again, they made noise to keep their communities happy. I'm sure their staff told them that the FCC does not look at political affiliations when evaluating license transfers. That "protest" was all show for their constituents who are solidly conservative in Miami-Dade.
 
But I don't think that any people who might facilitate Republican assistance would have thought that such a purchase of a "radio dog pound" would be practical, useful or viable.
Then why did Salem think it was? How poorly informed are they, even after shutting down similar AM stations, to think this package was worth anything?

This is why I say this wasn't political. If it was, the RNC would have acted. This was about minority business, not politics. Soros is interested in both.

Yes, the conservative people from South Florida insisted that their representatives "do something". They went through the motions, with all of us knowing that the political affiliation of a licensee is not something the FCC even requires on its forms.

Different people from different states are also petitioning the FCC about the Audacy bankruptcy. The Republican commissioner of the FCC is parting their talking points. Once again, no facts. Once again all chicken little. The sky is falling.

If stations have no audiences, they aren't useful in election interference. It doesn't matter which side is involved. If the goal was influencing Hispanics one way or the other, there are lots of cheaper ways to go.
 
Then why did Salem think it was? How poorly informed are they, even after shutting down similar AM stations, that this package was worth anything?
They are the national expert in making money with marginal facilities.
This is why I say this wasn't political. If it was, the RNC would have acted. This was about minority business, not politics. Soros is interested in both.
But then why did they get two "activists" from the DNC to run it? One has absolutely direct ties to Obama.
Different people from different states are also petitioning the FCC about the Audacy bankruptcy. The Republican commissioner of the FCC is parting their talking points. Once again, no facts. Once again all chicken little. The sky is falling.
Few people in the real world understand the limitations of FCC regulation, and in their ignorance they make an incredible amount of noise.
If stations have no audiences, they aren't useful in election interference. It doesn't matter which side is involved. If the goal was influencing Hispanics one way or the other, there are lots of cheaper ways to go.
The thinking was that they would have a powerful radio "big machine" in operation before the conventions. They ended up losing their NYC purchase, lost the decent night signal in Houston, created powerful ill-will in Miami and have made no significant programming changes anywhere.
 
But then why did they get two "activists" from the DNC to run it? One has absolutely direct ties to Obama
They were both out of work. They needed jobs. They knew who & how to ask for financing. I think the idea originated with the two women, not the investment company. They have lots of other more qualified people looking for money.

The thinking was that they would have a powerful radio "big machine" in operation before the conventions. They ended up losing their NYC purchase, lost the decent night signal in Houston, created powerful ill-will in Miami and have made no significant programming changes anywhere.

The only people who ever talked about having radio stations before the conventions were the people opposed to them. Neither of the women EVER said anything about programming. Probably because neither of them had any idea. Here we are, weeks away from the conventions, and there is no big radio machine. No nothing. Total chicken little.
 
They were both out of work. They needed jobs. They knew who & how to ask for financing. I think the idea originated with the two women, not the investment company.
How would those two lower level political organizers have ever found out about a group of Univsion stations that might be for sale? There was no listing on that package. In fact, at many of the for-sale stations the staff did not know until some put the pieces together after very obvious due diligence was done for the first offer.
 
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