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LA ARBITRON PPM RATINGS RELEASED: NOVEMBER 2010

What's happening to MYfm and KLOS? They're falling like a rock!
 
MYFM is the best station in LA and I am surprised that it fell a couple points from what it normally gets. The Cume is good though just not sure why the Avg. Quarter Hour is low.
 
musicman3355 said:
What's happening to MYfm and KLOS? They're falling like a rock!

Regarding KLOS, I don't know how going from 2.9, 2.9, to 2.7 is considered "falling like a rock". A better example would be KCBS-FM (Jack): 3.6,3.1 to 2.9. Ouch! Cume has not fallen by that much so TSL must be way down. I'm not sure why that would be unless a lot of folks are tuning in to get just a few of their 80's rock and 90's alt hits in before tuning in to something else.
 
OClistener said:
MYFM is the best station in LA and I am surprised that it fell a couple points from what it normally gets. The Cume is good though just not sure why the Avg. Quarter Hour is low.

Whaaaaaa?? Best station in LA? Their selection is way too random. People tune in, but how do you think you're going to grow AQH when going from Black Eyed Peas to Linkin Park to Bon Jovi? Plus their talent (with the exception of Valentine) is terrible.
 
Mr. Amoeba said:
OClistener said:
MYFM is the best station in LA and I am surprised that it fell a couple points from what it normally gets. The Cume is good though just not sure why the Avg. Quarter Hour is low.

Whaaaaaa?? Best station in LA? Their selection is way too random. People tune in, but how do you think you're going to grow AQH when going from Black Eyed Peas to Linkin Park to Bon Jovi? Plus their talent (with the exception of Valentine) is terrible.

It doesn't seem like CC cares much about the talent on 104 outside of mornings.... voicetracked out of NYC during the afternoon drive and Billy Bush is boring in the evenings. They only have a live person in LA 6AM-3PM on weekdays.

Musically sounds a lot like an Adult Top 40 that doesn't play much new music, at least that's how it feels to me these days. I know Hot ACs are trending rhythmic, but 104 seems to have more than average.
 
ocer said:
Mr. Amoeba said:
OClistener said:
MYFM is the best station in LA and I am surprised that it fell a couple points from what it normally gets. The Cume is good though just not sure why the Avg. Quarter Hour is low.

Whaaaaaa?? Best station in LA? Their selection is way too random. People tune in, but how do you think you're going to grow AQH when going from Black Eyed Peas to Linkin Park to Bon Jovi? Plus their talent (with the exception of Valentine) is terrible.

It doesn't seem like CC cares much about the talent on 104 outside of mornings.... voicetracked out of NYC during the afternoon drive and Billy Bush is boring in the evenings. They only have a live person in LA 6AM-3PM on weekdays.

Musically sounds a lot like an Adult Top 40 that doesn't play much new music, at least that's how it feels to me these days. I know Hot ACs are trending rhythmic, but 104 seems to have more than average.

It shouldn't be a surprise that KBIG has more rhythmic product than the "average" Hot AC. The demographics in LA require them to skew more rhythmic than other Hot ACs to bring in the right amount of women.
 
ocer said:
Mr. Amoeba said:
OClistener said:
MYFM is the best station in LA and I am surprised that it fell a couple points from what it normally gets. The Cume is good though just not sure why the Avg. Quarter Hour is low.

Whaaaaaa?? Best station in LA? Their selection is way too random. People tune in, but how do you think you're going to grow AQH when going from Black Eyed Peas to Linkin Park to Bon Jovi? Plus their talent (with the exception of Valentine) is terrible.

It doesn't seem like CC cares much about the talent on 104 outside of mornings.... voicetracked out of NYC during the afternoon drive and Billy Bush is boring in the evenings. They only have a live person in LA 6AM-3PM on weekdays.

Ty Bentil is 3-7pm right? He's actually live/local. Billy Bush is the only VT'd jock there (even though I though Lisa Foxx was on evenings).
 
thanks pjc1961 for the LA PPM analysis! Sorry new to this board, but does the P represent people. I presume then that people are keeping a record of what they listen to, right? I mean if not, how do they know how old their listeners are? If so, then technically the PPM numbers depend on who the diaries or people are recording, right? I always thought that they were just looking at the number of people who tune into their station.
 
I guess I really enjoy the variety on MYFM from Linkin Park, to Script to Bruno Mars to Alanis Morisette to artists from the 80s rather than AMP or KIIS where you hear music from similar artists: Drake, Niki Minaj, Lil Wayne, and Usher but that's just me. I don't care about KIIS or AMP, but I just don't want to see MYFM go away because of some stupid ratings!
 
pjc1961 said:
3 consecutive months trending up in various demos: KOST, KFI, KXOL, KKGO.

Nice to know Go Country is trending! 8)
 
OClistener said:
thanks pjc1961 for the LA PPM analysis! Sorry new to this board, but does the P represent people. I presume then that people are keeping a record of what they listen to, right? I mean if not, how do they know how old their listeners are? If so, then technically the PPM numbers depend on who the diaries or people are recording, right? I always thought that they were just looking at the number of people who tune into their station.

PPM means Personal People Meter. There is a full description at www.arbitron.com at the tabs for the PPM at the lower left.

In brief, Arbitron recruits a panel of households/families all members of which carry a small pager-sized device with them a minimum of 8 hours a day. The device "knows" what station each person with a meter hears and for how long they are exposed to it. The collected data is sent daily via a docking station that also recharges the meter.

The panel (a panel is a precise research term) is made up of a representative sample of the population of the market. That means if the market, in the case of LA is, 41% Hispanic, 41% of the people with meters will be Hispanic... or if 8% are teens, 8% of the people with meters will be carried by teens. There is one meter for about every 3,500 people in the market.

In a market with meters, there are no diaries. All measurement is passive, with no writing or remembering. Metered measurement is used in 48 of the top 50 markets now.

Arbitron processes the daily data and does a weekly report with limited age and gender breakouts, and then every 4 weeks, a full "book" with tens of thousands of ways of looking at the data by age, gender, ethnicity, geography, by dayparts, hours, half hours, quarter hours, etc. It's all done by projecting the sample into the universe to get estimates of the listening characteristics of each station and the market.
 
musicman3355 said:
pjc1961 said:
3 consecutive months trending up in various demos: KOST, KFI, KXOL, KKGO.

Nice to know Go Country is trending! 8)

Yes, KKGo has gone from 29th to 28th to 26th to 25th in the last 4 books in 25-54; they are still below the 1.9 and 22nd they achieved earlier in the year. It's the lowest rated full Mt. Wilson signal, even below KXOS!
 
OClistener said:
MYFM is the best station in LA and I am surprised that it fell a couple points from what it normally gets. The Cume is good though just not sure why the Avg. Quarter Hour is low.

hrmm, apparently, you haven't listened to LA radio in a long time b/c no station in LA could be titled as "best station in LA." They're all horrible and it's about time you switch over to satellite radio for more options, not the same crap you hear all the time...after all, Clear owns KOST, KIIS, KBIG, and a crap load of others....
 
If you look at the bottom of the list it appears there is one poor person who has to drive to the way north end of the Antelope Vallley with their meter attached :)
 
K6JHU said:
If you look at the bottom of the list it appears there is one poor person who has to drive to the way north end of the Antelope Vallley with their meter attached :)

Isn't the Antelope Valley in LA County? It may be that they are simply living where the station you refer to operates. All LA County is in the LA MSA, and the Antelope Valley area ("LA North Northeast") is a proportionally sampled geographic area within the market.
 
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