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"Laffy Taffy" Butchered On WGCI

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I heard "Laffy Taffy" by D4L on GCI earlier tonight. They didn't just edit a few bad words, they edited out whole verses. Why bother playing the song if you're going to cut most of it. Kiss FM played the song basically unedited. Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
 
I heard that song the other day on Kiss, and was shocked it was on the radio. (I guess I should say I don't listen to Kiss much at all). Anyway, I seem to remember a deal back in the late 80's/early 90's involving a radio station that got fined for playing either a spoof commercial or a parody song that had very heavy sexual overtones, involving names of candy. This song made very similar references. I would think it would be easy for the FCC to fine a station for playing it unedited, since they already have an existing, well known example.

> I heard "Laffy Taffy" by D4L on GCI earlier tonight. They
> didn't just edit a few bad words, they edited out whole
> verses. Why bother playing the song if you're going to cut
> most of it. Kiss FM played the song basically unedited.
> Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
 
> I heard "Laffy Taffy" by D4L on GCI earlier tonight. They
> didn't just edit a few bad words, they edited out whole
> verses. Why bother playing the song if you're going to cut
> most of it. Kiss FM played the song basically unedited.
> Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
>
Its an urban thing. WKKV does that a lot too. I think it has to do with the fact that they don't want to offend the mothers/parents who are listening. Probably the Christian/religious ones who listen to Music Of Love & Inspiration on Sunday mornings.
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> Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.

<font color=3333ff>It's not CC. Welcome to the POWER of Elroy Smith Esq. In case you didn't know, in the past years they've edited THONG in Sisqo's Thong Song, usually edited "Damn" in any song that said that word, including a R. Kelly song at one time. They've done some absolutely corny censoring towards the end of the 90's.

The easiest thing that WGCi did was take the last word, and put a fading echo on it, covering up where the "unacceptable" word woulda gone.

It's Elroy's "spiritual" discretion. Since Power 92 signed on in 2001, WGCi gave less of a care in the recent years.
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Re: WKKV

> Its an urban thing. WKKV does that a lot too.
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It's not really an Urban thing, it's the MD's and/or PD's personal choice. WKKV used to be run by Doc Love as the Music Director/APD. Over a year ago, he became PD. Bailey Coleman became the MD. NOW, Bailey Coleman is the PD (sigh).

Usually, when there is a male MD, they tend to be less conservative/censoring and play more Hip Hop.

Female MD's tend to be more R&B-intensive. That's why when Bailey Coleman became MD, the station really got soft with alot of R&B, current and older......................something I say catered to it's lower ratings.

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> I heard "Laffy Taffy" by D4L on GCI earlier tonight. They
> didn't just edit a few bad words, they edited out whole
> verses. Why bother playing the song if you're going to cut
> most of it. Kiss FM played the song basically unedited.
> Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
>
The bigger question is, why would anyone ratchet up the shallowness of contemporary radio by playing such a song (edited or not) in the first place?

My god, is our society THAT easily entertained by such garbage? <P ID="signature">______________
What, you were expecting me to make sense for a change?</P>
 
Re: WKKV

> > Its an urban thing. WKKV does that a lot too.
>
> It's not really an Urban thing, it's the MD's and/or PD's
> personal choice. WKKV used to be run by Doc Love as the
> Music Director/APD. Over a year ago, he became PD. Bailey
> Coleman became the MD. NOW, Bailey Coleman is the PD
> (sigh).
>
> Usually, when there is a male MD, they tend to be less
> conservative/censoring and play more Hip Hop.
>
> Female MD's tend to be more R&B-intensive. That's why when
> Bailey Coleman became MD, the station really got soft with
> alot of R&B, current and
> older......................something I say catered to it's
> lower ratings.
>
Even when Doc Love was PD they censored songs more. I remember them doing it in 2001.<P ID="signature">______________

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> > Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
>
>
> It's not CC. Welcome to the POWER of Elroy Smith Esq. In
> case you didn't know, in the past years they've edited THONG
> in Sisqo's Thong Song, usually edited "Damn" in any song
> that said that word, including a R. Kelly song at one time.
> They've done some absolutely corny censoring towards the end
> of the 90's.
>
> The easiest thing that WGCi did was take the last word, and
> put a fading echo on it, covering up where the
> "unacceptable" word woulda gone.
>
> It's Elroy's "spiritual" discretion. Since Power 92 signed
> on in 2001, WGCi gave less of a care in the recent years.
>
MTV does the same thing.


An example would be: Kanye West couldn't say "take your pants off" in Twista's "Slow Jamz" <P ID="signature">______________

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Re: WKKV

> Even when Doc Love was PD they censored songs more. I
> remember them doing it in 2001.

<font color=3333ff>Like which ones? I thought they were pretty normal then. MAYBE, just maybe coulda been one song or two that got chopped, maybe under Gary Young's power. But I couldn't see Doc doin it. Doc was the one to keep it crunk on V100. His ties to St. Louis broke plenty of midwest and southern hip hop to Milwaukee.

I remember back in 98 when Cash Money came to town for a concert, and they had a Cash Money song mix that night at 9....... mannnnnnnn that was HOTTT!
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Yeah, because I want my 12 year old niece to hear that so she can be his ho.

And you wonder why GCI is where they're at and Power's where?

While no fan of "I Know Nothing!" His Boy Elroy, having childish crap on the radio so we can blow our loads all over the steering while is not really necessary. You want that crap, buy the lack of talent's CD. Kids don't need to worry about getting it in the ass and giving head at 10 or 12 or 14, thanks Twista and Kanye, hopefully your kids will one day your kids will be someone's ho.

> > > Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own
> will.
> >
> >
> > It's not CC. Welcome to the POWER of Elroy Smith Esq. In
> > case you didn't know, in the past years they've edited
> THONG
> > in Sisqo's Thong Song, usually edited "Damn" in any song
> > that said that word, including a R. Kelly song at one
> time.
> > They've done some absolutely corny censoring towards the
> end
> > of the 90's.
> >
> > The easiest thing that WGCi did was take the last word,
> and
> > put a fading echo on it, covering up where the
> > "unacceptable" word woulda gone.
> >
> > It's Elroy's "spiritual" discretion. Since Power 92
> signed
> > on in 2001, WGCi gave less of a care in the recent years.
> >
> MTV does the same thing.
>
>
> An example would be: Kanye West couldn't say "take your
> pants off" in Twista's "Slow Jamz"
>
 
Here's why....

> Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.

Because despite the popular misconception, music decisions are
made at the local level, not by corporate.
 
> >
> Its an urban thing. WKKV does that a lot too. I think it has
> to do with the fact that they don't want to offend the
> mothers/parents who are listening. Probably the
> Christian/religious ones who listen to Music Of Love &
> Inspiration on Sunday mornings.
>
Bingo!
 
> > >
> > Its an urban thing. WKKV does that a lot too. I think it
> has
> > to do with the fact that they don't want to offend the
> > mothers/parents who are listening. Probably the
> > Christian/religious ones who listen to Music Of Love &
> > Inspiration on Sunday mornings.
> >
> Bingo!
>
Yep, and because of that, GCI has the #2 billing (behind WGN) and #1 in 18-34 and Top 5 in the money demo.
 
WGCi

> > Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
>
>
> It's not CC. Welcome to the POWER of Elroy Smith Esq. In
> case you didn't know, in the past years they've edited THONG
> in Sisqo's Thong Song, usually edited "Damn" in any song
> that said that word, including a R. Kelly song at one time.
> They've done some absolutely corny censoring towards the end
> of the 90's.
>
> The easiest thing that WGCi did was take the last word, and
> put a fading echo on it, covering up where the
> "unacceptable" word woulda gone.
>
> It's Elroy's "spiritual" discretion. Since Power 92 signed
> on in 2001, WGCi gave less of a care in the recent years.
>

TJ, but Elroy Smith's book of programming makes WGCi one the most interesting urbans in the US. He makes the station something that so unique that older demos would enjoy just as much as the younger demos. WGCi is a corporate-owned station that is uniquely being still ran at a local level as if it's locally owned community-based station which is very rare in this time and age in radio. How many Clear Channel-owned Urbans are still fully staffed all dayparts everyday of the week?

However, I don't know why Elroy would even pander to playing that trash on the radio, but I guess the little kiddies just love request the garbage. Also he has to play the hits regardless of the quality just to maintain GCi's dominance over Power 92.3. <P ID="signature">______________
If you don't like what I said....Oh hell, oh well. I have bigger fish to fry.</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by jaleo23 on 12/05/05 04:11 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > I heard "Laffy Taffy" by D4L on GCI earlier tonight. They
>
> > didn't just edit a few bad words, they edited out whole
> > verses. Why bother playing the song if you're going to
> cut
> > most of it. Kiss FM played the song basically unedited.
> > Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
>
> >
> The bigger question is, why would anyone ratchet up the
> shallowness of contemporary radio by playing such a song
> (edited or not) in the first place?
>
> My god, is our society THAT easily entertained by such
> garbage?
>

Yes it is. If a station misses out on big hits like this they make themselves vulnerable to the competition.
 
> > I heard "Laffy Taffy" by D4L on GCI earlier tonight. They
>
> > didn't just edit a few bad words, they edited out whole
> > verses. Why bother playing the song if you're going to
> cut
> > most of it. Kiss FM played the song basically unedited.
> > Why would CC allow GCI to chop up songs at their own will.
>
> >
> Its an urban thing. WKKV does that a lot too. I think it has
> to do with the fact that they don't want to offend the
> mothers/parents who are listening. Probably the
> Christian/religious ones who listen to Music Of Love &
> Inspiration on Sunday mornings.
>


It's a term we don't hear very often, but it's the "religious left" that you are describing. These folks have the best of intentions, but editing a song or boycotting songs all together will do little or nothing to stop the moral decay in society, it's too late for that.
 
Re: WKKV

> > Even when Doc Love was PD they censored songs more. I
> > remember them doing it in 2001.
>
> Like which ones? I thought they were pretty normal then.
> MAYBE, just maybe coulda been one song or two that got
> chopped, maybe under Gary Young's power. But I couldn't see
> Doc doin it. Doc was the one to keep it crunk on V100. His
> ties to St. Louis broke plenty of midwest and southern hip
> hop to Milwaukee.

Jeremy's right. WKKV has been known to edit or daypart songs they see as questionable. They also have at times been known to cut people's shout-outs off if they use profanity or the "N" word on air. One example was back in '94 when EZ Street was doing nights there and he scolded a caller for using the word during his broadcast.
 
so right you are sir

> It's a term we don't hear very often, but it's the
> "religious left" that you are describing. These folks have
> the best of intentions, but editing a song or boycotting
> songs all together will do little or nothing to stop the
> moral decay in society, it's too late for that.
>
 
> Editing is required on songs that suck.
<font color=3333ff>Sucking AND editing, is merely personal opinion.
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