I've only been to SF once, so needless to say, I don't follow SF radio. With that said, I'm listening to Opie And Anthony bash Lamont and Tonelli from 107.7 THE BONE. Are they really the hacks that O&A describe 'em to be?
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Lamont and Tonelli
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they do a really good show. My guess is their ratings in San Fran suck so they are trying to get a rise in them by using the OLD SCHOOL tactics "attack" the number one show to try and get them to respond.
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Where do Lamont & Tonelli rank in mornings, particularly 25-54?
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KSAN is currently a mess with a 1.7, down almost a full share since January. Since the station's ratings are primarily centered around L&T and Steven Seaweed, it's worth a look at both dayparts and demo performance. Paging David Eduardo!
They are consistently top 3 in their demo and have been for years
If they are top 3 in any demo when the KSAN 6+ share is a 1.7, I would be surprised. BTW I am a fan of L & T
I listened to Lamont and Tonelli for the 3 years I lived in the Bay Area from 1996 to 1999 - Opie and Anthony are NOT as funny or entertaining as L&T were. I'm glad to see they're still together at KSAN.
One question though, is Sully still on with them? He was a hoot and pretty much "discovered" by L&T.
One question though, is Sully still on with them? He was a hoot and pretty much "discovered" by L&T.
geek-orama said:
6+ numbers mean nothing FYI
You are right Morning but...you can't have a 1.7 6+ and have a 5 in 25-54 Men in Morning Drive. Even if your entire 6+ audience is in 25-54.
KSAN's playlist is crusty as all hell. The playlist is wimpier (and just as old if not older) now than when the station first adopted the "Bone" moniker some 12 or 13 years ago.
Cumulus doesn't do many flavors of rock radio. KFOG is way outside of their wheelhouse. They dabbled with AAA in a few large markets and got killed doing so. They also don't have a particularly good track record with rock radio. Just look at the now defunct Bone in Dallas and the perennially ratings-starved Rock 100.5 in Atlanta.
KSAN needs to begin playing more 90's & 2K's rock and ease up on the crusty 70's titles. I think a station similar to KRXQ or Seattle's KISW would do fairly well in the Bay Area. The gulf between Live 105 and KSAN is too wide. There is a lot of guitar-driven rock music from the last 20 years that is being completely ignored on the local airwaves.
Cumulus doesn't do many flavors of rock radio. KFOG is way outside of their wheelhouse. They dabbled with AAA in a few large markets and got killed doing so. They also don't have a particularly good track record with rock radio. Just look at the now defunct Bone in Dallas and the perennially ratings-starved Rock 100.5 in Atlanta.
KSAN needs to begin playing more 90's & 2K's rock and ease up on the crusty 70's titles. I think a station similar to KRXQ or Seattle's KISW would do fairly well in the Bay Area. The gulf between Live 105 and KSAN is too wide. There is a lot of guitar-driven rock music from the last 20 years that is being completely ignored on the local airwaves.
MarkW said:
Agree with most of the above -- but I think that when they tried to move KFOG "younger" last year they were positioning the Bone as the place for the older demo to go for their classic rock chestnuts. K-Fox complicated that scheme considerably.
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If L&T are 8th with Men 25-54 and 14th with Adults 25-54, then they are far off their previous figures and well out of the money. That's bad because L&T are an expensive show and you know how Cumulus feels about underachieving highly paid teams. Then again, Cumulus doesn't think KSAN needs a Program Director so who would actually work with L&T? There hasn't been an in-house PD at KSAN for years (Larry Sharpe was the last one) and no one from Atlanta bothers to pay attention. Regarding KUFX, it hasn't proved to be a factor in San Francisco like it was a couple years ago when the stand alone San Jose frequency benefited from favorable SF PPM placements in San Mateo and Santa Clara counties. Today's Fox combo is clearly less than what Entercom expected it to be. The upside that Entercom got it the San Jose frequency for a song -- $9 million.
Yes KUFX came cheap but Entercom has taken it steadily downward. Hmmmm? Entercom is failing spectacularly with the Game. Entercom has taken KOIT from 1st 25-54 to 8th
Do you see a pattern?
Wonder what big plans they have to make KBLX tank? Firing Kevin Brown was a start but I bet they have many more ideas.
Do you see a pattern?
Wonder what big plans they have to make KBLX tank? Firing Kevin Brown was a start but I bet they have many more ideas.
casual observer said:
I believe Derek Madden is the Bone's PD, no?
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