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Last places to get PBS OTA (or have none)

Columbia MO was not able to get KMOS until after the DTA transition to interference an FM station, although it once had 3 PBS stations (KMOS, KCPT, KETC) on cable since the late 70s, KCPT was dropped from cable over 20 years, KETC was dropped around the original analog shutoff date
 
Rockford, Illinois still have no OTA PBS outlet of their own, with cable subscribers getting WTTW Chicago and WHA Madison, with those in the western part of the market also getting WQPT in the Quad Cities.
 
Yuma/El Centro doesn't have its own PBS station. Yuma gets KAET Phoenix on a translator, but I don't believe the California side of the market gets any PBS over the air.
 
Bakersfield, California, has no PBS of its own; the Fresno affiliate, KVPT/v18, operates a translator station there...
 
Ultimajock said:
Bakersfield, California, has no PBS of its own; the Fresno affiliate, KVPT/v18, operates a translator station there...

And Fresno was rather late in getting a PBS station of their own, with KVPT (back then as KMTF) first signing-on in 1977. The Bakersfield translator signed-on in 1990, and they also get KCET from Los Angeles on cable and via a translator station, and even now since the disaffiliation from PBS. Bakersfield's Bright House cable system, however, doesn't carry KOCE.
 
I thought Montana was the last state to have the PBS station. Their new OTA station are KBGS - Billings, KUGF - Great Falls, and KUKL Kalispell. These 3 stations only sign on post DTV 2009.
 
Depending on where you are in the Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-San Luis Obispo market, it varies which out-of-market PBS station you get. In Santa Barbara proper and other southern parts of that market, your cable will pipe in (or some OTA translators will relay) KOCE from the L.A. market. If, however, you're a resident of the northern parts of the market (e.g. Lompoc, Santa Maria, Buellton, San Luis Obispo, Paso Robles, etc.), your cable will bring you KQED from San Francisco. All of the above cities were served by KCET until its disaffiliation from PBS.

Palm Springs is another California market without a PBS station to call its own. It is now served via OTA translators and/or cable by KVCR from San Bernardino (again, in the L.A. market) and the aforementioned KOCE.
 
Mastaclocksetta said:
Palm Springs is another California market without a PBS station to call its own. It is now served via OTA translators and/or cable by KVCR from San Bernardino (again, in the L.A. market) and the aforementioned KOCE.
...however, San Bernardino is only 45 miles from Palm Springs (San Bernardino to Los Angeles proper is 94 miles), and several KVCR programs are produced in Palm Springs rather than San Bernardino...
 
e-dawg said:
I thought Montana was the last state to have the PBS station. Their new OTA station are KBGS - Billings, KUGF - Great Falls, and KUKL Kalispell. These 3 stations only sign on post DTV 2009.

KUFM-TV Missoula, which filed for their license-to-cover for an analog facility on channel 11 in 1996. I think that still makes Montana the last state to have a local PBS station though.
 
Ultimajock said:
Mastaclocksetta said:
Palm Springs is another California market without a PBS station to call its own. It is now served via OTA translators and/or cable by KVCR from San Bernardino (again, in the L.A. market) and the aforementioned KOCE.
...however, San Bernardino is only 45 miles from Palm Springs (San Bernardino to Los Angeles proper is 94 miles), and several KVCR programs are produced in Palm Springs rather than San Bernardino...
...this is certainly one of the instances where there needs to be a realignment of market allocations; one commercial station with San Bernardino as its COL, KPXN/v30, and another with its COL as Riverside, KRCA/v62, both transmit from Mt. Wilson, over twice the distance from San Bernardino and Riverside than from Los Angeles proper (the COL and allocations for both should more realistically be changed to Pasadena)...
 
ShawnHill1 said:
And Fresno was rather late in getting a PBS station of their own, with KVPT (back then as KMTF) first signing-on in 1977.

Other cities that did not get their own PBS outlet until much later included:

Fort Wayne -- WFWA (1986; previously served by a LPTV that pulled in WBGU Bowling Green and, later, WFYI Indianapolis)
Fort Myers -- WGCU (1983)
Amarillo --KACV (1988)
 
Tyler-Longview, TX (DMA# 109) may be the largest market in the country without a PBS affiliate or translator. Most cable systems in the area, along with Dish carry KERA from Dallas. Directv carries the awful standard def only PBS national feed. The eastern part of the market can receive Louisiana Public Broadcasting's (LPB) KLTS from Shreveport via OTA with a decent outdoor antenna. In 2010, North Texas Public Broadcasting (NTPB), operators of KERA, applied for 3 low power digital translators in Tyler, but 2 years later, no action has been taken on any of the applications.
 
w9wi said:
e-dawg said:
I thought Montana was the last state to have the PBS station. Their new OTA station are KBGS - Billings, KUGF - Great Falls, and KUKL Kalispell. These 3 stations only sign on post DTV 2009.

KUFM-TV Missoula, which filed for their license-to-cover for an analog facility on channel 11 in 1996. I think that still makes Montana the last state to have a local PBS station though.

what PBS stations were pipped in on cable before that?
 
ShawnHill1 said:
Ultimajock said:
Bakersfield, California, has no PBS of its own; the Fresno affiliate, KVPT/v18, operates a translator station there...

And Fresno was rather late in getting a PBS station of their own, with KVPT (back then as KMTF) first signing-on in 1977. The Bakersfield translator signed-on in 1990, and they also get KCET from Los Angeles on cable and via a translator station
...when I lived in Bakersfield last summer, I never got KCET OTA, translator or ortherwise...
 
w9wi said:
KUFM-TV Missoula, which filed for their license-to-cover for an analog facility on channel 11 in 1996. I think that still makes Montana the last state to have a local PBS station though.

The original Montana PBS station was KUSM in Bozeman which was started in 1984.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
what PBS stations were pipped in on cable before that?

depending on what part of the state you were in
Western part got Spokane
Eastern got Prairie Public (NoDak)
Most of the state got Salt Lake City or Denver (the Denver 5 was used in sparce remote spots for years in the Mountain time zone...which was the Big3, PBS and KWGN)
 
unclehonkey said:
nomadcowatbk said:
what PBS stations were pipped in on cable before that?

depending on what part of the state you were in
Western part got Spokane

I believe KSPS is still available in Western Montana -- they even have translators in various places, including Missoula and Kalispell.
 
Ultimajock said:
...when I lived in Bakersfield last summer, I never got KCET OTA, translator or ortherwise...
It's not a very strong powered translator but it's out on the valley floor. Same with KVPT but both are very difficult to catch. If using just an indoor antenna forget about it, it'll probably never happen.
 
El Dorado AR, finally got a relayer for AETN (AR Educational TV Network) via KETZ in 2006 on digital channel (RF12) on low power but it changed frequencies to its permanent RF 10 assignment in 2009 (still remaps to 12-n). Prior to KETZ, El Dorado relied on distant KETG 9 (AETN Arkadelphia) , and KLTM 13 (LPB Monroe LA) for PBS OTA.
 
azumanga said:
unclehonkey said:
nomadcowatbk said:
what PBS stations were pipped in on cable before that?

depending on what part of the state you were in
Western part got Spokane

I believe KSPS is still available in Western Montana -- they even have translators in various places, including Missoula and Kalispell.
yup. There are parts of Western MT that have some of the Spokane nets on translators..some have a mix of Missoula and SPokane
 
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