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Last time a major L.A. station was located downtown??

I got an email from a radio friend the other day with this question, and I don't want to take time to go through old Broadcasting Yearbooks or other reference material to find the answer. So, I'll put the question to you folks and see if any of you have a good answer.

When was the last time a major radio station was located in downtown Los Angeles?

Thanks for any help you can give me on getting the answer to this one.

Jim
 
Does the USC campus count as downtown? KUSC has been there since it's beginning.

Does present day count as the last time? The present-day 710, KSPN, is, or soon will be located across the street from Staples Center.

If you mean in terms of past tense, the best I can come up with is the old 1150, then known as KRKD. Their old towers displaying their calls are still standing on top of the old Bradbury building.

Wasn't 1230/KGFJ also located downtown in the 70s?
 
RicoGregg said:
...then known as KRKD. Their old towers displaying their calls are still standing on top
of the old Bradbury building.

The general public might ask "is that the Ray Bradbury Building?" however
for us radio geeks it would of course be dubbed the B.R. Bradbury Building. :)

"Naming rights" aside, was the edifice originally called the Arcade Building,
hence the KRKD calls?


Wasn't 1230/KGFJ also located downtown in the 70s?

IIRC, the hammock is atop the Odd Fellows Hall which, again IIRC, is
not too far south of downtown. Not sure about studio site(s).
 
Jim Hilliker said:
I don't want to take time to go through old Broadcasting Yearbooks or other reference material to find the answer.

Speaking of Yearbooks, go to www.americanradiohistory.com where there are PDFs of many of the yearbooks from 1940 to 1975.
 
Regardless of any past and perhaps future (real or joking) disagreements
(such as Tom Kent ;D), a major shout out to the Old Gringo for putting up
all those yearbook PDFs on his site.

It's a gold mine of stuff, especially the stations/facilities/personnel listings
from way back when. I even noticed--in one or more early '50s issues--
Telco lines maps for some of the radio networks. (I wish there were also
some for the TV nets, from early on going forward into the late '70s.)

My own collection is limited to seven issues between 1971-1984, so I've
been spending a lot of eye-numbing time going through the PDFs.

Hopefully there will be no repercussions from the ghosts of Sol and
Larry Taishoff. ;)
 
I wouldnt call the now defunct Radio Unica 1580 AM a major station, but it was on Figueroa and 2nd in 2004, when it got sold. I think its a Korean Religious station now.
 
So, let's take away the word major....A lot of the big AM stations licensed to LA or even in the L.A. market are not 'major' stations anymore, like they were 25-45 years ago.

OK on 1580....You mean KBLA? Still has the same calls...If so, that one may have been the last one to have studios downtown, if they were at Figueroa and 2nd in 2004.

You are right about the former KGFJ, now KYPA-1230...They've had their transmitter and flattop antenna at that location since 1927, but not their studios...

1150, when it was KRKD, had studios at that site in the Spring Arcade Building until their new studio and transmitter was built in Montecito Heights around 1948, but the sales offices remained downtown. 1150-AM had the KRKD calls until it was sold and became KIIS (without an FM at the time) during 1970. The old KRKD-FM on 96.3 was also sold to the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel and became KFSG.

Yes, new owners chose the call letters KRKD in 1932 because the station, which had been in Inglewood since 1927 as KMIC and KMCS, was moving into new studios inside the Spring Arcade Building, with their antenna, a flattop wire between two towers, was on the building's roof. By the way, the station's antenna was only used
to transmit the KRKD signal for a few short years, until around 1937. KRKD management decided to share/use the transmitter and antenna of their "share-time" partner station on 1120 and later 1150, KFSG, at 1100 Glendale Blvd./Angelus Temple. The KRKD towers with the call letters on the towers stayed up there all this time, and I'm sure were good advertising for the station in the downtown area for decades. KRKD, as I said, later got their new transmitter plant and studios in 1948. New power then was 5 kw/1 kw...In the '30s and '40s, they were 2500 watts day/500 watts night, same as KFSG on 1120/1150 between 1937-1948.

Was the old KFI studio site at 141 North Vermont Ave. considered to be downtown? They were there from 1939-1975.

I too want to thank David for posting the old BC Yearbooks...Great resource material.

Jim
 
KUTE,, Glendale, was located in Downtown L.A. on the top floor of the old Occidental Plaza in the penthouse, back in the late 60's. The KUTE studio wwer rather bare; Console, two turntables, and two 7" reel to reels, that was it! No cart machines, for spots, the owner refused to use cart machines do to the cost, and justified it over sound quality issues. Imagine having to load and cue spots with only two reel to reels, some guys would pre cue the reels, pull them off, and cue up another set. It was hard to believe that tiny KNJO Thousand Oaks, had a better studio than a major market L.A. station, for that matter KAVR Apple Valley had a nicer set up at the time.

Two KNJO, jocks did time at KUTE after leaving KNJO.



Steve
www.knjoradio.com
 
Jim Hilliker said:
1937-1948.

Was the old KFI studio site at 141 North Vermont Ave. considered to be downtown? They were there from 1939-1975.

Wasn't KECA (now KABC) co-located until the FCC ended duopolies in the later 40's? And KGBS was in the wonderful funeral parlor studios just at the edge of downtown

I too want to thank David for posting the old BC Yearbooks...Great resource material.

It took many many moons of saving to get the 11 x 17 duplex sheet fed scanner and the 200 lb. paper cutter that made this possible. I'm doing more Yearbooks, as well as getting ready to scan about 5000 issues of Broadcasting Magazine. I'm very happy to hear from those who find the informating useful. This is my tiny payback for what will be in a few months 50 years in radio.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Wasn't KECA (now KABC) co-located until the FCC ended duopolies in the later 40's?
And KGBS was in the wonderful funeral parlor studios just at the edge of downtown

I've seen some old exterior photos of 141 N. Vermont which had signage
for both KFI and KECA (neon?) along with "Earle C. Anthony, Inc."

KGBS funeral parlor: 338 S. Western. Weren't there stories about one
of the floors being "haunted"?
 
DavidEduardo said:
This is my tiny payback for what will be in a few months 50 years in radio.

Fifty Years? Wow! You looked so young inside the XEW transmitter! I also want to add my words of appreciation not only for the Yearbooks but for the other things you've scanned over the years, as well as the very detailed autobiographical material you've put on your site.
 
David,

Yes, is my answer to your question about the co-owned KFI and KECA. Earle C. Anthony (whom I shall refer to as ECA after this to save time and space) got KFI on the air in 1922, broadcasting from the roof of his Packard auto dealership/showroom at 1000 South Hope Street, 10th and Hope in Los Angeles. Anthony wanted a second radio station, so in November of 1929, he bought station KPLA.

(KPLA began its broadcast "life" in 1925 as KFXB in Big Bear Lake, of all places. In early 1927, KFXB's owner moved the station to downtown L.A. and changed the call letters to KPLA)

About this same time, the Federal Radio Commission on November 15, 1929, moved KPLA from 1000 kilocycles/kilohertz to 1430-AM. The next day, the L.A. Times reported that ECA had purchased KPLA and the call letters were changed immediately to KECA, to stand for Anthony's initials. Over time, KECA, which was an early station that heavily featured classical music and serious drama, which ECA enjoyed, became the affiliate of the NBC Blue network and KFI was part of the NBC Red network. KECA on 1430 used only 1,000 watts of power compared to the 5 kw on 640 for KFI, which of course was increased to 50,000 watts in 1931.

ECA, who had an engineering background (he invented an early electric car in L.A. as a young man), was very frustrated by the early-1930s, because KECA at 1430 had limited signal coverage and was apparently stuck at 1,000 watts on a regional channel. He tried a few times to get the license for the troubled 780 AM frequency in L.A. (shared by KTM Los Angeles and KELW-Burbank), but the FCC, though not entirely happy with the performance of those two stations, kept renewing their licenses. In 1935, Hearst Radio, headed by William Randolph Hearst, bought KTM and changed the call letters to KEHE for his L.A. paper, the Evening Herald Express. In 1937, KEHE bought out KELW-Burbank, took that station off the air, and was able to increase their power from 1 kw/500 w day/night to 5 kw day and 1 kw night, building a new transmitter at the current site of today's KABC-790 xmtr....They also built a new studio/office complex at 141 North Vermont Avenue.

Finally, in 1938-'39, ECA was among several people involved in a deal to buy most of the Hearst-owned radio stations. ECA bought KEHE-780 for $400,000 from Hearst Radio. Around December 1939, when KEHE had gone off the air for good, KECA went off the air on 1430 and moved to 780 on the AM dial. KFI and KECA moved from the cramped quarters at 10th and Hope to the former KEHE building at 141 North Vermont.

But, in 1942 or so, the FCC ruled that no station owner could own more than 1 (one) radio station in the same market. ECA was heartbroken. He vowed he would never sell KFI, and now he was forced by the U.S. government to sell his beloved KECA!! The sale of KECA became final in 1943, as the NBC Blue Network was also sold to Edward Noble, who made his fortune with Lifesavers candy. The network became known only as The Blue Network and later became ABC, the American Broadcasting Company. KECA moved from 141 N. Vermont to a Hollywood address, as it was also owned by the Blue Network, later ABC. KECA-780 moved to 790-AM on March 29, 1941. In 1954, KECA changed call letters to KABC, and still has those calls today.

ECA by the late-1940s became a pioneer in FM, with KFI-FM at 105.9 and TV, with KFI-TV on channel 9.
But a few years later, a bitter strike by employees ( engineers, I believe), made things difficult at a time when TV still wasn't making a lot of money. But ECA decided to sell channel 9, and he also didn't see much future then in FM, and took 105.9 FM off the air!! He didn't even sell the station, just turned in the license.

I wonder what ECA would think today about the FCC now allowing people or companies to own hundreds of radio stations??

I'll comment about the 338 S. Western Studios for KFVD/KPOP/KGBS later.

Jim
 
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