Latest PPM out 5/18

[MarkW]

KKWF's is powering Kane Brown "Heaven", and played a Kane Brown track 100 total times in the past 7 days. KNUC isn't powering Kane Brown. They gave him 77 total spins in the same period.

KNUC is powering Blake Shelton "I'll Name The Dogs", and played a Blake track 146 total times in the past 7 days. KKWF isn't powering Blake. They gave him 86 total spins in the same period.

Sure you're listening to the right station?

Apparently, I am indeed confusing the two at times.

I appreciate the info regarding spins.

Suffice it to say, I am not a fan of either station. I was hoping 98.9 would be the anti-Wolf.

 

[Bongwater]

989 The Anti-Wolf....Isn't that one of those "end times" things? I saw something about that....

 

[AQH]

As I said, it's obvious that the decision wasn't made strictly in Seattle. The first call was to St. Louis. Radio stations owned by big companies aren't run independently. Ginny Morris had a lot to say about it, and she's not in Seattle.

How is it obvious to you the decision "wasn't strictly made in Seattle"?

As noted elsewhere, the Bull brand is not unique to Seattle

No it's not, it's alive and well in this thread.

 

[davideduardo]

How is it obvious to you the decision "wasn't strictly made in Seattle"?

Because group owners don't allow format changes to be made without extensive consultation with and analysis by the headquarters management team.

 

[AQH]

No. The point made with the references to other markets shows that nationally and even internationally, naming a station by just its dial position is a relatively common practice, and is not a "kiss of death" nor a temporary move. And listeners respond to such names, since the diary survey proves that the most common way of referring to a radio station is by its frequency.

I see no "ego" issue here; I purposely kept away from mentioning any station I have managed or programmed. I simply gave an assortment of very successful uses of just the dial position.

I see no reason why Seattle would be any different than other US or international markets where frequency alone is the identifier. My caveat is that such a name, today, is limited to the OTA portion of a station's distribution and is not inclusive of the new media channels; personally, I would not use just dial position today for that very reason.

Referring to oneself four times in a single paragraph to make a case of having "no ego" is hilarious.

Then there's the matter of setting your default font style differently and larger than us commoners.

Not sure The Onion could have written it better.

 

[TheBigA]

How is it obvious to you the decision "wasn't strictly made in Seattle"?

Because they immediately got content support from St. Louis. That took approval from Minneapolis.

If they had a plan in place locally, then it might have been done locally. But would still have needed approval from the main office.

 

[KXA]

Referring to oneself four times in a single paragraph to make a case of having "no ego" is hilarious.

Then there's the matter of setting your default font style differently and larger than us commoners.

Not sure The Onion could have written it better.

Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black? You have a monstrous ego too, and HATE anyone who calls you out on your mistakes and assumptions. Time for you to get over yourself Marc.

 

[davideduardo]

Referring to oneself four times in a single paragraph to make a case of having "no ego" is hilarious.

Gosh, I don't know any way to respond to a personal criticism/comment/attack using second or third person pronouns.

Nor do I understand why I'd attribute personal opinions to third parties.

Beyond that, I really don't know of many cases in radio where being ego driven... in the form of personal satisfaction and competitiveness... has not been a key element in major success stories.

Then there's the matter of setting your default font style differently and larger than us commoners.

It's the same setting as it's been going back to predecessor boards in 2002 when it was the default. You just noticed?

Not sure The Onion could have written it better.

I'll be sure to mention that to my colleagues at The Onion! Thanks!

 

[CarAgencyGuy]

Anyone want to get back on track to discuss the actual trends instead of bashing Hubbard and bemoaning the loss of KMPS? Anyone?

KUOW canned 7 staffers either because of the union thing or because they didn't like the direction of their ratings, or both? With KUOW liberal talk down big and KTTH conservative talk up slightly- is the worm starting to turn on Seattle's liberal left leaning content providers?

How about Movin, (uh oh I may have unleased the Hubbard bashers again). Is the morning show going national starting to take a toll on local numbers? Or is it as Mr. Eduardo refers to it as, a "wobble".

It will also be interesting to see how the rebirth of KUBE (and demise of Power) affects those around them KBKS, Movin, Hot.

 

[TheBigA]

With KUOW liberal talk down big and KTTH conservative talk up slightly- is the worm starting to turn on Seattle's liberal left leaning content providers?

Except KUOW isn't "liberal talk." No actual political talk shows.

 

[CTListener]

Except KUOW isn't "liberal talk." No actual political talk shows.

People on the right tend to classify talk on social issues, environmental issues, global events, even the arts as "liberal." Much as those on the left demean anti-abortion talk, emphatic patriotism, and bewilderment at or even contempt for current trends in entertainment and sports as "conservative." Everything is political in these times and the labels are part of the culture war.

 

[TheBigA]

Everything is political in these times and the labels are part of the culture war.

Maybe. Only if one chooses to play that game. KTTH markets itself as "Conservative Talk" and they focus all of their time on that subject. There is no equivalent opposing programming on KUOW. Just because someone calls a pig a cow doesn't mean it will moo or provide milk.

 

[xmtrland]

I actually just pick up some dirt at KTTH and KFNQ, but it's stored in the garage till I can get it to the dump. I actually like the syndicated mix of sports on KFNQ. Will be interesting if there is a Sounders bump on KJR-AM

 

[Goi]

How is it obvious to you the decision "wasn't strictly made in Seattle"?




No it's not, it's alive and well in this thread.

Ginny's about had her full of the bull coming out of Factoria. Since she "took over operations" the track record is abysmal. Warm has lost it's luster no longer the at work station it once was. The turn over there is about as bad as the Trump Cabinet, my gosh. Since Ginny took ownership there has been nothing short of a complete shit show at 98.9 - 3 format changes, countless changes in staff. My gosh Ginny probably took a look and said WTF is that little טראָול doing!!! Someone with a brain needs to get control of things. Bigger concern is when Movin loses it's morning show then what....Premier already has them and the next logical step is pretty clear.

 

[AQH]

Anyone want to get back on track to discuss the actual trends instead of bashing Hubbard and bemoaning the loss of KMPS? Anyone?

KUOW canned 7 staffers either because of the union thing or because they didn't like the direction of their ratings, or both? With KUOW liberal talk down big and KTTH conservative talk up slightly- is the worm starting to turn on Seattle's liberal left leaning content providers?

How about Movin, (uh oh I may have unleased the Hubbard bashers again). Is the morning show going national starting to take a toll on local numbers? Or is it as Mr. Eduardo refers to it as, a "wobble".

It will also be interesting to see how the rebirth of KUBE (and demise of Power) affects those around them KBKS, Movin, Hot.

Movin's problem is about the CHR format product sucking right now, not about the brand. How stations react and what else they offer is what sets them apart from the others.

iHeart is going to re-evaluate KUBE again in about a year or two and realize their mistake. Change format and then let go of their morning show is typical of the illogical thinking in that building. iHeart should have done a better job of monetizing by getting Hubbard to buy spots on 93.3, because what iHeart is doing will produce the same results.

KUOW's move was a pure union thing.

 

[AQH]

Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black? You have a monstrous ego too, and HATE anyone who calls you out on your mistakes and assumptions. Time for you to get over yourself Marc.

I'm Marc Kaye as much as you are Factoria. Wait factual I meant factual, sorry my mistake.

 

[boombox4]

Movin's problem is about the CHR format product sucking right now, not about the brand. How stations react and what else they offer is what sets them apart from the others.

iHeart is going to re-evaluate KUBE again in about a year or two and realize their mistake. Change format and then let go of their morning show is typical of the illogical thinking in that building. iHeart should have done a better job of monetizing by getting Hubbard to buy spots on 93.3, because what iHeart is doing will produce the same results.

KUOW's move was a pure union thing.

Is the conclusion that CHR sucks right now a result of some research, or has there been a downwards national trend in CHR stations?

Or is it just your take on it. Just curious.

I think CHR was better earlier in the decade, but that's just a listener's perspective, and we all have different tastes.

 

[seattlesarchiebunker]

KUOW's move was a pure union thing.

Absolutely. Every union shop in and out of radio where I have worked at has had a similar result. The union claims some sort of “victory” out of negotiations, and management responds by cutting back expenses as frequently as possible.

My favorite was when my union claimed “victory” over getting paid during the free hot lunch for an 8 hour work shift...the rub was you’re only getting paid for 7.5/8 hours! Management responded by cutting the shifts down to 7.5 hours. Unfortunately, in these situations, the people who usually get shafted are non-union employees...while the only one who sees any real benefit is the union itself.

My guess is a similar situation occurred at KUOW...non union employees got the boot...or they did a very poor job of negotiating that 7 staffers with newly minted union cards are having a serious case of buyer’s remorse!

 

[Goi]

I'm Marc Kaye as much as you are Factoria. Wait factual I meant factual, sorry my mistake.

Marc can't get over himself he's toooo short.

 

[bobdavcav]

Is the conclusion that CHR sucks right now a result of some research, or has there been a downwards national trend in CHR stations?

Or is it just your take on it. Just curious.

I think CHR was better earlier in the decade, but that's just a listener's perspective, and we all have different tastes.

Yes, CHR is trending down nationally. Shawn Ross complains about current product pretty much every time he writes about CHR.