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LaWKY? WTF?
Now we have yet another signal wasted on Mexican crap? When are we going to be more like Houston and have half of the signals in town in a language catering to those that aren't even in the US legally? Is this in the LEGAL PUBLIC'S interest?


I bet old man Gaylord is spinning in his grave about now..


P.S. http://markshannon.com/DUH.htm pretty well sums it all up.

"If this continues all we will speak to are Mexicans."

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> LaWKY? WTF?
> Now we have yet another signal wasted on Mexican crap? When
> are we going to be more like Houston and have half of the
> signals in town in a language catering to those that aren't
> even in the US legally? Is this in the LEGAL PUBLIC'S
> interest?
>
>
> I bet old man Gaylord is spinning in his grave about now..
>
>
> P.S. http://markshannon.com/DUH.htm pretty well sums it all
> up.
>
> "If this continues all we will speak to are Mexicans."
>


Do They Play Santana?
 
> > LaWKY? WTF?
> > Now we have yet another signal wasted on Mexican crap?
> When
> > are we going to be more like Houston and have half of the
> > signals in town in a language catering to those that
> aren't
> > even in the US legally? Is this in the LEGAL PUBLIC'S
> > interest?
> >
> >
> > I bet old man Gaylord is spinning in his grave about now..
>
> >
> >
> > P.S. http://markshannon.com/DUH.htm pretty well sums it
> all
> > up.
> >
> > "If this continues all we will speak to are Mexicans."
> >
>
>
> Do They Play Santana?
>

How about Ricky Martin? LMAO!

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> LaWKY? WTF?
> Now we have yet another signal wasted on Mexican crap? When
> are we going to be more like Houston and have half of the
> signals in town in a language catering to those that aren't
> even in the US legally? Is this in the LEGAL PUBLIC'S
> interest?

That is fairly interesting. This would be Citadel's first Spanish station, I think. That market has a pretty small Hispanic population, but we are seeing AMs that are unprofitable going Spanish in places like Omaha and even Indanapolis and Memphis.
 
> > > LaWKY? WTF?
> > > Now we have yet another signal wasted on Mexican crap?
> > When
> > > are we going to be more like Houston and have half of
> the
> > > signals in town in a language catering to those that
> > aren't
> > > even in the US legally? Is this in the LEGAL PUBLIC'S
> > > interest?
> > >
> > >
> > > I bet old man Gaylord is spinning in his grave about
> now..
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. http://markshannon.com/DUH.htm pretty well sums it
> > all
> > > up.
> > >
> > > "If this continues all we will speak to are Mexicans."
> > >
> >
> >
> > Do They Play Santana?
> >
>
> How about Ricky Martin? LMAO!
>
speedy gonzalez sound effects
 
> LaWKY? WTF?
> Now we have yet another signal wasted on Mexican crap? When
> are we going to be more like Houston and have half of the
> signals in town in a language catering to those that aren't
> even in the US legally? Is this in the LEGAL PUBLIC'S
> interest?
>
>
> I bet old man Gaylord is spinning in his grave about now..
>
>
> P.S. http://markshannon.com/DUH.htm pretty well sums it all
> up.
>
> "If this continues all we will speak to are Mexicans."
>


Land mines are warranted.
 
>
> That is fairly interesting. This would be Citadel's first
> Spanish station, I think.

It's actually Citadel's second or third spanish station (depending on how you look at it). La Indomable 105.3 (the station AM 930 is simulcasting) and a La Indomable on the AM dial that Citadel owns in Iowa.
 
> but we are seeing AMs that are
> unprofitable going Spanish in places like Omaha

In that case, even an FM!
 
RIP 93WKY

Kind of interesting...

93WKY... Oklahoma City

93KHJ... Los Angeles

Two stations that dominated for years in the respective markets. Two stations that fell from the top. Two stations that really had a chance to be big if they would have done it right. Both had heritage three letter calls... both have been turned over to Spanish language programmers... both are on 930 AM.

As for 'KY....

That was the one signal that back a few years ago when Citadel got ahold of it had the potential to really give KTOK a run for it's money. In other places like Little Rock and Nashville and even Knoxville and Chattanooga they hire some of the brightest and best air personalities to anchor their stations, and with great success.

But in Oklahoma City, instead of building on the great WKY tradition set forth in what.. the 1940's or so... they throw a few extra dollars at the jocks on their other stations and say, "Hey... do a talk show..." Instead of going out and hiring a real radio news department to be first on the scene and get into a street war with KTOK... they rely on News 9 and whatever else they could gather up.

They had one last chance to really do it up right and glean what remnants were left of the three letters that really meant something to Oklahoma over the years. But that would have taken a heavy investment in talent and resources... and God forbid that corporate radio pay top dollar for someone that would bring in something fresh and new to the market. If put the money and effort into WKY that they put into the Sports Animal with qualified talkers and a real news department... KTOK might just have a big chunk of it's market share tuned into 930 AM right now. But that would be something fresh and new, and we can't have that.

Here's to the glory days.

http://www.reelradio.com/gifts/dwwky68.html#dwwky68
 
Re: RIP 93WKY

I'd love to see the WKY calls resurface on FM..(93-point something of course)
Play a 50's early 60's format...use the old WKY jingles..give KOMA a run for their money...like in the old days.

Probably will never happen..Just dreaming

RIP WKY 930..
 
BLazers Games

Yesterday, I called the Blazers and asked who was going to carry their games now. Appearently the Blazers games (and I would assume Redhawks too come springtime) will remain on WKY, in English.
 
Re: BLazers Games

> Yesterday, I called the Blazers and asked who was going to
> carry their games now. Appearently the Blazers games (and I
> would assume Redhawks too come springtime) will remain on
> WKY, in English.
>


Owners today (they are "owners" not "broadcasters") have no sense of heritage or history. WKY and KOMA-AM are two of America's great radio stations. Sad to see them go. But boys, we live in a voice-tracked, pipe-it-in radio world and that is why I got out. I miss the business I got into, but I don't miss the business I got out of. Maybe someday....
 
Dumb Move

> Owners today (they are "owners" not "broadcasters") have no
> sense of heritage or history. WKY and KOMA-AM are two of
> America's great radio stations. Sad to see them go. But
> boys, we live in a voice-tracked, pipe-it-in radio world and
> that is why I got out. I miss the business I got into, but
> I don't miss the business I got out of. Maybe someday....

I feel the same way with Journal Broadcasting who dumped KVOO-AM's legendary calls for those horrible KFAQ calls. I'm tired of corporate broadcasters who are brainwashed by thier consultants/advisers that another cheap cookie cutter format will bring huge ratings and profits when they are miles away from people in that city want to hear.

BTW Why could'nt Chitadel move the Sports Animal to WKY and put the Spanish format on WWLS? The Sports Animal would finally have a good city grade signal that would get into downtown offices. Lets hope the "new" WKY winds up being a ratings disaster.
 
Re: RIP 93WKY

Semi-off-subject, but I was just wondering: if a station with grandfathered calls (i.e. our west-of-the-Mississippi W stations) dropped them for something else, would the FCC allow another operator to pick them up in the future? I.e. is OKC permanently allowed to use those calls again? Of course, if somebody east of the Mississipp snatched them first, then we'd be screwed (until they swicthed calls, of course). I don't know if they're gonna blow out WKY's calls, but I do observe that W X and Y are the most-syllabic letters in Spanish. Obviously half the country is saddled with "double-yew", but all the rest of the letters flow off the tongue. While in this instance, we've got "dob-lay-vay kah ee-gree-ay-ga" in Spanish, which doesn't exactly flow too well (not to mention taking 3 seconds to say WITHOUT the frequency).
 
Re: RIP 93WKY

> Semi-off-subject, but I was just wondering: if a station
> with grandfathered calls (i.e. our west-of-the-Mississippi W
> stations) dropped them for something else, would the FCC
> allow another operator to pick them up in the future? I.e.
> is OKC permanently allowed to use those calls again?

93 KHJ in Los Angeles dropped those calls in the 80s when they dropped top-40. The spanish operator was able to convince the FCC to get the calls back on 930 AM in LA around 2000 or so. Before that, they had settled for KKHJ.
 
Re: WKY

On the one hand, WKY-930 has the best AM signal in Oklahoma City.

On the other hand, it has not been much of a factor in the ratings for several years.

Still, the flip to Spanish is a stunning surprise.

Does anyone have any idea as to how much of the population in Oklahoma City and metropolitan Oklahoma City and what percentage of that population is Hispanic??

If the Hispanic population in Oklahoma City has grown substantially since the 2000 census, that may be the reason for WKY's flip. Some demographers are predicting that many cities in the Southwest will soon be majority-Hispanic, which will likely lead to fewer radio (and TV) stations broadcasting in English and more stations broadcasting in Spanish.

Also, at the risk of creating controversy (but let's discuss this in a civil manner), I wonder if the ownership rate of I-Pod's and MP-3 players is lower among Hispanics than the entire population in general. If it is, that may be another reason (in addition to huge growth in the number of Hispanics in many cities) why so many stations over the past couple of years have switched to Spanish-language programming.
 
Re: WKY

Okay, let me elaborate further. The FCC doesn't assign calls which start with W west of the Mississippi anymore. Several stations, like WKY and WWLS, already had their calls when the FCC put this rule into place, and they didn't make them switch to KKY and KWLS. So my question is, if a grandfathered set of calls like this was taken out of use, would the FCC allow someone in Oklahoma City to "violate" the "K only" rule and resurrect either of those calls, or would they make them take something that starts with K. I.E. "We'll let you keep WKY as long as you keep them in constant use, but once they're gone from OKC, we'll only reassign them to somebody east of the Mississippi".
 
Re: WKY... but here in Tulsa

> On the one hand, WKY-930 has the best AM signal in Oklahoma
> City.
>
> On the other hand, it has not been much of a factor in the
> ratings for several years.
>
> Still, the flip to Spanish is a stunning surprise.
>
> Does anyone have any idea as to how much of the population
> in Oklahoma City and metropolitan Oklahoma City and what
> percentage of that population is Hispanic??
>
> If the Hispanic population in Oklahoma City has grown
> substantially since the 2000 census, that may be the reason
> for WKY's flip. Some demographers are predicting that many
> cities in the Southwest will soon be majority-Hispanic,
> which will likely lead to fewer radio (and TV) stations
> broadcasting in English and more stations broadcasting in
> Spanish.
>

> Also, at the risk of creating controversy (but let's discuss
> this in a civil manner), I wonder if the ownership rate of
> I-Pod's and MP-3 players is lower among Hispanics than the
> entire population in general. If it is, that may be another
> reason (in addition to huge growth in the number of
> Hispanics in many cities) why so many stations over the past
> couple of years have switched to Spanish-language
> programming.
>
You have a very valid point. In the last 12+, the AM Hispanic station here in Tulsa, KXTD, came in at 1.8. The all sports station KTBZ rolled in a 0.8. What is interesting is KXTD is a DAYTIMER. I'm glad I have my XM.
 
Re: WKY

> Does anyone have any idea as to how much of the population
> in Oklahoma City and metropolitan Oklahoma City and what
> percentage of that population is Hispanic??
>

The market seems to already be there. Oklahoma City has a population just over 500,000, and the city is just over 10% hispanic as of the 2000 census. So using those numbers and not figuring in very likely growth, there are over 50,000 Hispanic residents in the city alone.
 
Re: WKY

Another historical tidbit about the old WKY is this: In his memoir "A Reporter's Life", Walter Cronkite wrote that one of his first radio jobs was at WKY-930, not as a newsman, but as play-by-play commentator for Oklahoma University football games!
 
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