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Legal IDs: How much can go between the calls and the COL?
- Thread starter ixnay
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SamBuca
Guest
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(b) Content. (1) Official station identification shall consist of
the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or
communities specified in its license as the station's location:
Provided, That the name of the licensee or the station's frequency or
channel number, or both, as stated on the station's license may be
inserted between the call letters and station location. No other
insertion is permissible.
(2) A station may include in its official station identification the
name of any additional community or communities, but the community to
which the station is licensed must be named first.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
(b) Content. (1) Official station identification shall consist of
the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or
communities specified in its license as the station's location:
Provided, That the name of the licensee or the station's frequency or
channel number, or both, as stated on the station's license may be
inserted between the call letters and station location. No other
insertion is permissible.
(2) A station may include in its official station identification the
name of any additional community or communities, but the community to
which the station is licensed must be named first.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> WBBM says "WBBM-AM Chicago". KYW says "KYW 1060
> Philadelphia". WIP once used "WIP Metromedia radio in
> Philadelphia".
>
> In a legal ID, how much can be said in the interval between
> the call letters and the city of license?
As Sam says, either the licencee, the frequency or channel number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty legal, as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be against the spirit of the rule.
> Philadelphia". WIP once used "WIP Metromedia radio in
> Philadelphia".
>
> In a legal ID, how much can be said in the interval between
> the call letters and the city of license?
As Sam says, either the licencee, the frequency or channel number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty legal, as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be against the spirit of the rule.
J
JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
> WBBM says "WBBM-AM Chicago". KYW says "KYW 1060
> Philadelphia". WIP once used "WIP Metromedia radio in
> Philadelphia".
>
> In a legal ID, how much can be said in the interval between
> the call letters and the city of license?
>
> ixnay
Under the rule, all of those above are ok (WBBM-AM is technically not a correct call, but to the lay listener it's distinguished from sister WBBM-FM and the FCC won't be THAT picky).
47 CFR 73.1201:
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification
announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and
(2) Hourly, as close to the hour as feasible, at a natural break in
program offerings. Television and Class A television broadcast stations
may make these announcements visually or aurally.
(b) Content. (1) Official station identification shall consist of
the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or
communities specified in its license as the station's location:
Provided, That the name of the licensee or the station's frequency or
channel number, or both, as stated on the station's license may be
inserted between the call letters and station location. No other
insertion is permissible.
(2) A station may include in its official station identification the
name of any additional community or communities, but the community to
which the station is licensed must be named first.
(c) Channel--(1) General. Except as otherwise provided in this
paragraph, in making the identification announcement the call letters
shall be given only on the channel identified thereby.
(2) Simultaneous AM (535-1605 kHz) and AM (1605-1705 kHz broadcasts.
If the same licensee operates an AM broadcast station in the 535-1605
kHz band and an AM broadcast station in the 1605-1705 kHz band with both
stations licensed to the same community and simultaneously broadcasts
the same programs over the facilities of both such stations, station
identification announcements may be made jointly for both stations for
periods of such simultaneous operations.
[...]
However, even given this, the FCC has been really really lax about enforcement of legal IDs. Unless it's really blatant and a substantial portion of the required info is missing, they're too busy to deal with it. For example:
***This is Los Angeles's #1 station, KNX-FM--Arrow 93!
Illegal under the rules. But the Commission would probably let it go.
Go all the way back to 1968:
***From Los Angeles--MORE MUSIC! [jingle] KHJ.
Illegal. But the info is there. Same result.
Blatant:
***WXXX, Cleveland's news/talk station, 24 hours a day!
Let's say WXXX was licensed to Euclid, Ohio, a Cleveland suburb. Though it's in the metro, in the same county, and even shares a border with Cleveland...EUCLID must come first. Cleveland can be added, but it must go:
***WXXX, Euclid. Cleveland's news/talk station, 24 hours a day!
Most stations that want to hide the COL do so in a soft/limited ID under the normal listener's radar. It's there, but barely (and there's no rule on amplification). Then they give the target market in a sweeper or liner.
That's if they're not hiding the ID totally, which is the modern trend.
{Sam, David, and I all happened to respond at about the same time. Mine was in progress when they posted. Hmmm...what's that they say about late to the table?)
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Johnny Morgan on 01/17/06 02:44 PM.</FONT></P>
> Philadelphia". WIP once used "WIP Metromedia radio in
> Philadelphia".
>
> In a legal ID, how much can be said in the interval between
> the call letters and the city of license?
>
> ixnay
Under the rule, all of those above are ok (WBBM-AM is technically not a correct call, but to the lay listener it's distinguished from sister WBBM-FM and the FCC won't be THAT picky).
47 CFR 73.1201:
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification
announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and
(2) Hourly, as close to the hour as feasible, at a natural break in
program offerings. Television and Class A television broadcast stations
may make these announcements visually or aurally.
(b) Content. (1) Official station identification shall consist of
the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or
communities specified in its license as the station's location:
Provided, That the name of the licensee or the station's frequency or
channel number, or both, as stated on the station's license may be
inserted between the call letters and station location. No other
insertion is permissible.
(2) A station may include in its official station identification the
name of any additional community or communities, but the community to
which the station is licensed must be named first.
(c) Channel--(1) General. Except as otherwise provided in this
paragraph, in making the identification announcement the call letters
shall be given only on the channel identified thereby.
(2) Simultaneous AM (535-1605 kHz) and AM (1605-1705 kHz broadcasts.
If the same licensee operates an AM broadcast station in the 535-1605
kHz band and an AM broadcast station in the 1605-1705 kHz band with both
stations licensed to the same community and simultaneously broadcasts
the same programs over the facilities of both such stations, station
identification announcements may be made jointly for both stations for
periods of such simultaneous operations.
[...]
However, even given this, the FCC has been really really lax about enforcement of legal IDs. Unless it's really blatant and a substantial portion of the required info is missing, they're too busy to deal with it. For example:
***This is Los Angeles's #1 station, KNX-FM--Arrow 93!
Illegal under the rules. But the Commission would probably let it go.
Go all the way back to 1968:
***From Los Angeles--MORE MUSIC! [jingle] KHJ.
Illegal. But the info is there. Same result.
Blatant:
***WXXX, Cleveland's news/talk station, 24 hours a day!
Let's say WXXX was licensed to Euclid, Ohio, a Cleveland suburb. Though it's in the metro, in the same county, and even shares a border with Cleveland...EUCLID must come first. Cleveland can be added, but it must go:
***WXXX, Euclid. Cleveland's news/talk station, 24 hours a day!
Most stations that want to hide the COL do so in a soft/limited ID under the normal listener's radar. It's there, but barely (and there's no rule on amplification). Then they give the target market in a sweeper or liner.
That's if they're not hiding the ID totally, which is the modern trend.
{Sam, David, and I all happened to respond at about the same time. Mine was in progress when they posted. Hmmm...what's that they say about late to the table?)
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Johnny Morgan on 01/17/06 02:44 PM.</FONT></P>
Long story short...
Go with what's on the licence.
Most stations don't have the "am" suffix, that's why there's the FM/TV/DT suffi, IE, WBBM, WBBM-FM, WBBM-TV.
Most stations go with WXXX-COL, although some stations (Like KTU) bury the COL and pump out the major market (WKTU -10 dB "Lake Success" NEW YORK, or WHTZ -10 dB "Newark" NEW YORK CITY) to make them seem bigger
Still other stations use the Calls/City's Choice for Blah blah blah, like "This is News Talk 750 WSB, Atlanta's News, Traffic, and Weather Station."
I'm a traditionalist, and prefer a loud legible legal at the TOH, with jingle!
Go to http://www.tophour.net for more infermation.
Go with what's on the licence.
Most stations don't have the "am" suffix, that's why there's the FM/TV/DT suffi, IE, WBBM, WBBM-FM, WBBM-TV.
Most stations go with WXXX-COL, although some stations (Like KTU) bury the COL and pump out the major market (WKTU -10 dB "Lake Success" NEW YORK, or WHTZ -10 dB "Newark" NEW YORK CITY) to make them seem bigger
Still other stations use the Calls/City's Choice for Blah blah blah, like "This is News Talk 750 WSB, Atlanta's News, Traffic, and Weather Station."
I'm a traditionalist, and prefer a loud legible legal at the TOH, with jingle!
Go to http://www.tophour.net for more infermation.
S
SamBuca
Guest
> As Sam says, either the licencee, the frequency or channel
> number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty legal,
> as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be
> against the spirit of the rule.
If the call sign is "WXXX-AM", then they have to broadcast that.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty legal,
> as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be
> against the spirit of the rule.
If the call sign is "WXXX-AM", then they have to broadcast that.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
S
SamBuca
Guest
Re: Long story short...
> I'm a traditionalist, and prefer a loud legible legal at the
> TOH, with jingle!
Me too, although I'd like to reverse the change which lets you put stuff inbetween the call and city of license.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> I'm a traditionalist, and prefer a loud legible legal at the
> TOH, with jingle!
Me too, although I'd like to reverse the change which lets you put stuff inbetween the call and city of license.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> > As Sam says, either the licencee, the frequency or channel
>
> > number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty legal,
>
> > as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be
> > against the spirit of the rule.
>
> If the call sign is "WXXX-AM", then they have to broadcast
> that.
>
There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
>
> > number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty legal,
>
> > as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be
> > against the spirit of the rule.
>
> If the call sign is "WXXX-AM", then they have to broadcast
> that.
>
There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
> There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
>
As far as *I* can tell too. I was just "quoting" WBBM's legal as they deliver it.
I like how WSB does it. How long have they been doing it?
In the mid 80's WBAL used "WBAL, Baltimore's radio station" as execution of their legal.
ixnay
>
As far as *I* can tell too. I was just "quoting" WBBM's legal as they deliver it.
I like how WSB does it. How long have they been doing it?
In the mid 80's WBAL used "WBAL, Baltimore's radio station" as execution of their legal.
ixnay
K
KMRichards
Guest
> In the mid 80's WBAL used "WBAL, Baltimore's radio station"
> as execution of their legal.
In 1987, KHTY Santa Barbara had as it's top-of-the-hour ID:
"KHTY ... Santa Barbara's HOT FM ... Y-97"
In 1978, I buried the legal ID for a simulcast station I programmed in the top-of-the-hour newscast's weather report:
"Current area temperatures from KAAP-AM & FM: Santa Paula xx degrees ... it's xx in Ventura."
I also recall that when KCBQ was top-40, they also did their ID coming out of their :55 newscast:
"KCBQ San Diego Weather ..."<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> as execution of their legal.
In 1987, KHTY Santa Barbara had as it's top-of-the-hour ID:
"KHTY ... Santa Barbara's HOT FM ... Y-97"
In 1978, I buried the legal ID for a simulcast station I programmed in the top-of-the-hour newscast's weather report:
"Current area temperatures from KAAP-AM & FM: Santa Paula xx degrees ... it's xx in Ventura."
I also recall that when KCBQ was top-40, they also did their ID coming out of their :55 newscast:
"KCBQ San Diego Weather ..."<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
J
JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
> > > As Sam says, either the licencee, the frequency or
> channel
> >
> > > number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty
> legal,
> >
> > > as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be
> > > against the spirit of the rule.
> >
> > If the call sign is "WXXX-AM", then they have to broadcast
>
> > that.
> >
>
> There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
Correct. There is "WXXX" and "WXXX-FM". The -FM makes a separate call. Here's the reason:
The original of a call is just the four letters (WXXX). That can be an AM or an FM service. If it is an AM service, then WXXX-FM is still available as a separate and distinct call, but the licensee of WXXX must approve any use of WXXX-FM, so as to preclude confusion. (For example, Infinity owned WBZZ calls in Tampa and Pittsburgh (WBZZ (AM) and WBZZ-FM). When WBZZ-FM changed calls, Infinity still controlled WBZZ (AM) in Tampa. By extension, they also had veto over the use of the now vacant and available WBZZ-FM. (For the record, Infinity now controls NEITHER one, having changed calls in Tampa at year's end.)
Even more distinctly, if WXXX is licensed to an FM station, and that is the only service, then the call is still only WXXX. WXXX-FM would be improper, but the FCC wouldn't think much of it.
> channel
> >
> > > number can go there. The "AM" thing is not striclty
> legal,
> >
> > > as it fits "none of the above" but I doubt it would be
> > > against the spirit of the rule.
> >
> > If the call sign is "WXXX-AM", then they have to broadcast
>
> > that.
> >
>
> There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
Correct. There is "WXXX" and "WXXX-FM". The -FM makes a separate call. Here's the reason:
The original of a call is just the four letters (WXXX). That can be an AM or an FM service. If it is an AM service, then WXXX-FM is still available as a separate and distinct call, but the licensee of WXXX must approve any use of WXXX-FM, so as to preclude confusion. (For example, Infinity owned WBZZ calls in Tampa and Pittsburgh (WBZZ (AM) and WBZZ-FM). When WBZZ-FM changed calls, Infinity still controlled WBZZ (AM) in Tampa. By extension, they also had veto over the use of the now vacant and available WBZZ-FM. (For the record, Infinity now controls NEITHER one, having changed calls in Tampa at year's end.)
Even more distinctly, if WXXX is licensed to an FM station, and that is the only service, then the call is still only WXXX. WXXX-FM would be improper, but the FCC wouldn't think much of it.
S
SamBuca
Guest
> There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
Ok..bad example. I was just pointing out that if the license has an appendage to the 3 or 4 letter call sign, you need to put it in the legal ID.
We used to be WHYL and WHYL-FM.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Ok..bad example. I was just pointing out that if the license has an appendage to the 3 or 4 letter call sign, you need to put it in the legal ID.
We used to be WHYL and WHYL-FM.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> In 1987, KHTY Santa Barbara had as it's top-of-the-hour ID:
> "KHTY ... Santa Barbara's HOT FM ... Y-97"
All of this, of course, is perfectly legal. If the legal ID is "KHTY Santa Barbara", you can literally put anything on either side of it, including an "apostrophe S".
Clear Channel news/talk powerhouse KFBK/1530 Sacramento used to have "NewsTalk 1530 KFBK...Sacramento's News Station" in its legal ID each and every hour. After "KFBK Sacramento", they could have put "Mars, Jupiter and Pluto" for all the FCC cares.
The "AM" in legal IDs for stations is technically outside the rules, as has been mentioned here (local libtalker "Radio Free Ohio" IDs as "WARF-AM Akron"), but it's somewhat unlikely the FCC would care. The "AM" in AM stations calls is always shown as "(AM)" in official documents, to clarify vs. FM stations that do not have the -FM suffix due to an existing AM.
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
> "KHTY ... Santa Barbara's HOT FM ... Y-97"
All of this, of course, is perfectly legal. If the legal ID is "KHTY Santa Barbara", you can literally put anything on either side of it, including an "apostrophe S".
Clear Channel news/talk powerhouse KFBK/1530 Sacramento used to have "NewsTalk 1530 KFBK...Sacramento's News Station" in its legal ID each and every hour. After "KFBK Sacramento", they could have put "Mars, Jupiter and Pluto" for all the FCC cares.
The "AM" in legal IDs for stations is technically outside the rules, as has been mentioned here (local libtalker "Radio Free Ohio" IDs as "WARF-AM Akron"), but it's somewhat unlikely the FCC would care. The "AM" in AM stations calls is always shown as "(AM)" in official documents, to clarify vs. FM stations that do not have the -FM suffix due to an existing AM.
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
Re: Long story short...
> > I'm a traditionalist, and prefer a loud legible legal at
> the
> > TOH, with jingle!
>
> Me too, although I'd like to reverse the change which lets
> you put stuff inbetween the call and city of license.
Same here.
Heck, technically "in" is not even to standard ("WXXX in Anytown"), though as with the misplaced "-AM", the FCC probably considers that still within the spirit of the law, if not the letter...
Somewhere in the upper Midwest, the proprietor of <a target="_blank" href=http://www.tophour.net>TopHour.net</a> is feeling something like a "Spidey sense"...
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
> > I'm a traditionalist, and prefer a loud legible legal at
> the
> > TOH, with jingle!
>
> Me too, although I'd like to reverse the change which lets
> you put stuff inbetween the call and city of license.
Same here.
Heck, technically "in" is not even to standard ("WXXX in Anytown"), though as with the misplaced "-AM", the FCC probably considers that still within the spirit of the law, if not the letter...
Somewhere in the upper Midwest, the proprietor of <a target="_blank" href=http://www.tophour.net>TopHour.net</a> is feeling something like a "Spidey sense"...
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
> There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
>
But there *could* be...say I were to launch 101.7 FM, WXQZ, then purchase WAMC 1180 AM. If I wanted my stations to have the same calls, I would change WAMC to WXQZ-AM. Correct?
No idea if those calls are in use, I just made them up.
One thing I like to do is pin the legal ID into a station promo: Listen to Rush Limbaugh <blah blah blah, make this 30 seconds) Only on WLAZ Albequerque, your sports leader. (That would be one poorly formatted talk station :/)
>
But there *could* be...say I were to launch 101.7 FM, WXQZ, then purchase WAMC 1180 AM. If I wanted my stations to have the same calls, I would change WAMC to WXQZ-AM. Correct?
No idea if those calls are in use, I just made them up.
One thing I like to do is pin the legal ID into a station promo: Listen to Rush Limbaugh <blah blah blah, make this 30 seconds) Only on WLAZ Albequerque, your sports leader. (That would be one poorly formatted talk station :/)
J
JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
> > There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
>
> >
> But there *could* be...say I were to launch 101.7 FM, WXQZ,
> then purchase WAMC 1180 AM. If I wanted my stations to have
> the same calls, I would change WAMC to WXQZ-AM. Correct?
If you wanted the same calls, you'd change the AM to WXQZ, and change the FM to WXQZ-FM. "-AM" is not a recognized call.
>
> >
> But there *could* be...say I were to launch 101.7 FM, WXQZ,
> then purchase WAMC 1180 AM. If I wanted my stations to have
> the same calls, I would change WAMC to WXQZ-AM. Correct?
If you wanted the same calls, you'd change the AM to WXQZ, and change the FM to WXQZ-FM. "-AM" is not a recognized call.
> > There are no calls with -AM on them, as far as I can tell.
>
> >
> But there *could* be...say I were to launch 101.7 FM, WXQZ,
> then purchase WAMC 1180 AM. If I wanted my stations to have
> the same calls, I would change WAMC to WXQZ-AM. Correct?
No, the FM becomes XXXX-FM and the AM has the base calls.
>
> >
> But there *could* be...say I were to launch 101.7 FM, WXQZ,
> then purchase WAMC 1180 AM. If I wanted my stations to have
> the same calls, I would change WAMC to WXQZ-AM. Correct?
No, the FM becomes XXXX-FM and the AM has the base calls.
M
mikebatchelor
Guest
My favorite hiding of the city of license was WGTZ in Eaton, OH...Z93 is WGTZ Eaton Dayton Alive!
> > In 1987, KHTY Santa Barbara had as it's top-of-the-hour
> ID:
> > "KHTY ... Santa Barbara's HOT FM ... Y-97"
>
> All of this, of course, is perfectly legal. If the legal ID
> is "KHTY Santa Barbara", you can literally put anything on
> either side of it, including an "apostrophe S".
>
> Clear Channel news/talk powerhouse KFBK/1530 Sacramento used
> to have "NewsTalk 1530 KFBK...Sacramento's News Station" in
> its legal ID each and every hour. After "KFBK Sacramento",
> they could have put "Mars, Jupiter and Pluto" for all the
> FCC cares.
>
> The "AM" in legal IDs for stations is technically outside
> the rules, as has been mentioned here (local libtalker
> "Radio Free Ohio" IDs as "WARF-AM Akron"), but it's somewhat
> unlikely the FCC would care. The "AM" in AM stations calls
> is always shown as "(AM)" in official documents, to clarify
> vs. FM stations that do not have the -FM suffix due to an
> existing AM.
>
> -OA
>
> > In 1987, KHTY Santa Barbara had as it's top-of-the-hour
> ID:
> > "KHTY ... Santa Barbara's HOT FM ... Y-97"
>
> All of this, of course, is perfectly legal. If the legal ID
> is "KHTY Santa Barbara", you can literally put anything on
> either side of it, including an "apostrophe S".
>
> Clear Channel news/talk powerhouse KFBK/1530 Sacramento used
> to have "NewsTalk 1530 KFBK...Sacramento's News Station" in
> its legal ID each and every hour. After "KFBK Sacramento",
> they could have put "Mars, Jupiter and Pluto" for all the
> FCC cares.
>
> The "AM" in legal IDs for stations is technically outside
> the rules, as has been mentioned here (local libtalker
> "Radio Free Ohio" IDs as "WARF-AM Akron"), but it's somewhat
> unlikely the FCC would care. The "AM" in AM stations calls
> is always shown as "(AM)" in official documents, to clarify
> vs. FM stations that do not have the -FM suffix due to an
> existing AM.
>
> -OA
>
> WBBM says "WBBM-AM Chicago". KYW says "KYW 1060
> Philadelphia". WIP once used "WIP Metromedia radio in
> Philadelphia".
>
> In a legal ID, how much can be said in the interval between
> the call letters and the city of license?
>
> ixnay
>
A somewhat related question concerning legal IDs...
Say you have an AM/FM simulcast, both are licensed to the same city. Which would be proper..."WXXX Citytown, WXXX-FM Citytown" (following the rules to the letter), or could you get away with "WXXX, WXXX-FM Citytown"? I am of the opinion that "WXXX AM and FM Citytown" would be improper, as the "AM and" are not a part of the calls for either station.<P ID="signature">______________
It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
-- Samuel Langhorne Clemens
</P>
> Philadelphia". WIP once used "WIP Metromedia radio in
> Philadelphia".
>
> In a legal ID, how much can be said in the interval between
> the call letters and the city of license?
>
> ixnay
>
A somewhat related question concerning legal IDs...
Say you have an AM/FM simulcast, both are licensed to the same city. Which would be proper..."WXXX Citytown, WXXX-FM Citytown" (following the rules to the letter), or could you get away with "WXXX, WXXX-FM Citytown"? I am of the opinion that "WXXX AM and FM Citytown" would be improper, as the "AM and" are not a part of the calls for either station.<P ID="signature">______________
It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
-- Samuel Langhorne Clemens
</P>
I'm told the correct form would be "WXXX, WXXX-FM Citytown". I worked for an AM/FM Simulcast that did say "WCSM AM and FM, Celina" ..that wasn't proper but no one complained.<P ID="signature">______________
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