Leo Terrell

[davideduardo]

That was over 50 years ago! Things have changed. Cumulus bought ABC stations out of bankruptcy court from Citadel. Agreements have time limits on them, and they don't go back 20 years.

And a lot of the radio deals with ABC were based on everyone being in the same building or, at least, being in the same company in the same market. My understanding is that the organizers long ago... before cable and duopolies and streams... thought that a larger group of people all under the same umbrella were easier to recruit and produced greater dues revenue.

 

[davideduardo]

Where would the money come from? Would Iranians pay for it?

As it is, the KABC signal is not particularly useful in reaching Persians. The Simi Valley signal covers the vast majority of Iranians who are in the San Fernando Valley.

 

[davideduardo]

Anyone know why he's gone? I assume poor ratings, but this is KABC, and I'm not sure what qualifies as 'poor ratings'. Perhaps he and Drew were fired as a 'package deal'......

They are not even subscribed to the ratings.

 

[Weiserguy]

Let's make this simpler. Do you agree that KABC is (and has been) covered by a SAG-AFTRA union contract?

Or that someone appearing on KABC's air (who's not a transient guest, or a caller, or paying-to-play for their airtime) is going to be paid for any non-incidental appearance?

Or that the rate for said appearance would be defined, per that contract, as "scale"?

The point, *my* point, was that, if you agree with the aforementioned, Mr. Terrell should have been paid at least scale for his appearances. However much that was. In other words, he should not have been working for free.

That's all I've been trying to say. Unfortunately it seems I need to word it with the precision of computer code.

 

[TheBigA]

Let's make this simpler. Do you agree that KABC is (and has been) covered by a SAG-AFTRA union contract

No. I thought I said that several posts back.

According to post #7, Leon Kaplan was the host who worked for free. Not Leo Terrell.

 

[Weiserguy]

No. I thought I said that several posts back.

According to post #7, Leon Kaplan was the host who worked for free. Not Leo Terrell.

It seems you're right about that, according to messages #3 and #5 (not so much #7), but you need a AAA map to follow the thread. We flip from Terrell to Kaplan in mid-stream.

You said a few things, like this:

Not aware that unions do national deals. When I was in AFTRA, it was all about local.

Cumulus owns one station in LA. My take is they're going to run this station like WFAS.

...and this:

That was over 50 years ago! Things have changed. Cumulus bought ABC stations out of bankruptcy court from Citadel. Agreements have time limits on them, and they don't go back 20 years.

But at no time do you say KABC became a non-union shop. That would have necessitated the unionized employees voting to de-certify the union, or Cumulus busting it. Cumulus doesn't just make a labor agreement evaporate. There is labor law in this country and this state. If Cumulus refused to honor the contract in place at that time, why did the unionized staff continue working there? Virtually everyone who appears on a station like that in a market like L.A. is AFTRA.

 

[TheBigA]

If Cumulus refused to honor the contract in place at that time, why did the unionized staff continue working there?

That should tell you that it's non-union. The station has eliminated almost all local staff.

Someone told me the staff at KROQ is also non-union.

 

[davideduardo]

That should tell you that it's non-union. The station has eliminated almost all local staff.

Someone told me the staff at KROQ is also non-union.

And KLVE/KSCA/KRCD
And KTNQ
And the Lotus stations.
And Estrella Media

 

[ChannelFlipper]

And KLVE/KSCA/KRCD
And KTNQ
And the Lotus stations.
And Estrella Media

Maybe unions aren't all they're cracked up to be?