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I just heard on Progressive Talk 680 that the Leon Gray show is going to start this Monday. This will be 680's first live talk show as they deviate for a few hours from Air America to go live and local. It should make for an interesting
talk show war between Leon and Mike Flemming on 600. Let the battle begin!
 
Is he doing 4-7pm against Fleming, or just 4-6pm? Anything local is good for local radio.

> I just heard on Progressive Talk 680 that the Leon Gray show
> is going to start this Monday. This will be 680's first live
> talk show as they deviate for a few hours from Air America
> to go live and local. It should make for an interesting
> talk show war between Leon and Mike Flemming on 600. Let the
> battle begin!
>
 
> Is he doing 4-7pm against Fleming, or just 4-6pm? Anything
> local is good for local radio.
Leongrayad.jpg
 
> > Is he doing 4-7pm against Fleming, or just 4-6pm? Anything
>
> > local is good for local radio.

Well, he LOOKS like a nice guy.
His head appears REALLY HUGE, though.
Maybe all those wacky, liberal ideas floating around in there.
>
 
> > > Is he doing 4-7pm against Fleming, or just 4-6pm?
> Anything
> >
> > > local is good for local radio.
>
> Well, he LOOKS like a nice guy.
> His head appears REALLY HUGE, though.
> Maybe all those wacky, liberal ideas floating around in
> there.
> >
>
He oughta bring a few listeners, considering how he did on WLOK:

http://www.680wwtq.com/pages/leongray.htm<P ID="signature">______________
There's nothing to see here.</P>
 
Cool logo, CF. Glad to see it's more RED than BLUE.

mmmmm....Diet Coke






/loves startin' things!<P ID="signature">______________
Never hold a cat and a dustbuster at the same time.</P>
 
> Cool logo, CF. Glad to see it's more RED than BLUE.
>
> mmmmm....Diet Coke

> /loves startin' things!

Not really sure who's idea it was to make the PT 680 logo have any red in it at all, actually. When it shows up in the local rags, it'll be halftoned anyway, so we'll be the only ones seeing the irony. Anyone heard whether Fleming's voice went up two octaves, having heard the news?

mikeflemingslug.gif


/ALSO loves startin' things... CFKane
 
>
> /ALSO loves startin' things... CFKane
>

Don't look at me. My mother was an English teacher. I can't bear to listen to Mike's grammar and word selection more than a couple of minutes.
<P ID="signature">______________
Never hold a cat and a dustbuster at the same time.</P>
 
> I just heard on Progressive Talk 680 that the Leon Gray show
> is going to start this Monday. This will be 680's first live
> talk show as they deviate for a few hours from Air America
> to go live and local. It should make for an interesting
> talk show war between Leon and Mike Flemming on 600. Let the
> battle begin!
>
LET THE BATTLE BEGIN? Are you serious? I am no fan of Mike Fleming, but let's look at some facts: WREC is an entrenched news/talk station, and the two shows leading up to Fleming, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, are the two most successful national talk shows. Progessive Talk 680 has virtually no audience, and the two shows leading up to Leon Gray are Al Franken and Randi Rhodes, who are not even on the national talk radar screen. WREC = windshield, Leon Gray = bug.
 
At least 2 octaves I'm sure, CF. It was pretty cool listening to the shake-down cruise yesterday afternoon. Leon took quite a few calls. All of them positive and supportive, and they didn't sound like Entercom staffers either. It's about time the rest of us had a local voice. I loved Leon's comment to a caller that they are not just LEANING to the left at PT680...They are STANDING FIRMLY on the left. Hoo-Waa!! Let the talk begin! Go get 'em Leon! Love, Leonard<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
 
On what facts do you base your statement that PT680 has virtually NO audience? The numbers are not in as of now. Perhaps the equation should be WREC= windshield...Leon Gray= a big hard object traveling at an unknown velocity. Like perhaps the wheels coming off Fleming's tired smoking neo-conservative vehicle. At least Sean and Rush are somewhat skillful liars.More people than you can imagine smell something rotten coming from the right, And want to hear the other side's thoughts. Otherwise 680 would still be playing Ed Ames music. Don't be so quick to dismiss Leon Gray, Randi Rhodes, or Al Franken. As far as I can tell they are being very well recieved locally. Maybe the Cheney-Voldemort ticket isn't a shoo-in here in the mid south for 2008. I could be wrong. But it doesn't feel that way. Hey, let's just see what happens, OK? Much love, Leonard<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
 
>........"And David took a stone and slung it at Goliath....and Goliath fell over, dead!"...... Chapter 1: Verse: 1 from the "Book Of Leon"




> I just heard on Progressive Talk 680 that the Leon Gray
> show
> > is going to start this Monday. This will be 680's first
> live
> > talk show as they deviate for a few hours from Air America
>
> > to go live and local. It should make for an interesting
> > talk show war between Leon and Mike Flemming on 600. Let
> the
> > battle begin!
> >
> LET THE BATTLE BEGIN? Are you serious? I am no fan of Mike
> Fleming, but let's look at some facts: WREC is an entrenched
> news/talk station, and the two shows leading up to Fleming,
> Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, are the two most successful
> national talk shows. Progessive Talk 680 has virtually no
> audience, and the two shows leading up to Leon Gray are Al
> Franken and Randi Rhodes, who are not even on the national
> talk radar screen. WREC = windshield, Leon Gray = bug.
>
 
> On what facts do you base your statement that PT680 has
> virtually NO audience? The numbers are not in as of now.
> Perhaps the equation should be WREC= windshield...Leon Gray=
> a big hard object traveling at an unknown velocity. Like
> perhaps the wheels coming off Fleming's tired smoking
> neo-conservative vehicle.

I gotta tell ya... you liberals are long on wishful thinking. If you think any liberal gobbledy goop is going to beat Mike Fleming I wanna hit off that fattie you're smoking. Aside from the fact most of the material they present is out in left field (pardon the pun), the shows on 680 should be marketed as comedy since there's little factual basis for most of their arguements.

Wishful thinking... and I can't wait for the numbers to come out and verify that.

P.S. - This is not a slam of Leon - He's a great talent. It's just this oooh and aaah over a station that isn't making a dent in the market is driving me crazy... if y'all only had the same enthusiasm for 98.1 with it's low numbers, but I digress.

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</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by classicradionut on 07/27/05 01:48 AM.</FONT></P>
 
All I can say is that Leon took as many calls on his trial run sunday as Fleming does any weekday afternoon. Virtually NO audience?? Please. Not only were the phones busy,But the callers seemed both geographically AND ethnically diverse. Not to mention more informed and intelligent than the sheep I hear calling in to WREC to voice their approval of his shrill brand of predictable hate, xenophobia and ignorance. I am also looking forward to seeing those numbers, however I predict a different result than you do, obviously. Also, I must respectfully point out that the arguements(sic) presented on PT680 are based upon documented facts that are easy enough for anyone with sufficient temerity to verify. Comparing the important truths and balanced perspective of PT680 and Air America to what was offered up by The Cat...now THAT'S comedy!!!It seems to me that an awful lot of people here in the Bible belt are hungry for a big 'ol down home heapin' helpin' of liberal gobbledy goop,and it's available to them 24-7 now on PT680. And I'm sure you're not the only one around here who's being driven crazy by that fact. So come on over here and take a hit. Sounds like you need one. I'll pass on a sip of that Kool-Aid you're drinking though. Wait for the hammer to follow through before evaluating the size of that dent Steve. We liberals want to be your friend! That's why we tell the truth. Peace, Leonard <P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
 
Unfortunately, Steve seems to suffer from being a "conservative,just because..." I was one for 14 years, it's being unwilling to accept anything the other side says, just because it's the other side. Never mind, basis in fact, and EVIDENCE! I own both Rush books, I helped open the "Rush room" in 1992, at the "Blue Heron cafe" in my hometown, I voted for Bush twice, and am still registered "Republican". It's easy to shut your brain off, and think the other side is wrong, it's even easier when you brand them "Devils".

Truth be known, there are indeed TWO sides to the story, I stopped paying attention when Bush won, and I deeply regret it. That's why I find "Air America" so refreshing, and why I root for it. That's why people, like Steve hate the station so much. It's against everything they are TOLD to stand for. Steve's a good guy, and more centrist, when he gets his sleep, at least, publicly.

Whether or not the station ever takes down the CC owned conservative leaning WREC, or more specifically, Leon beats fleming, is yet, unseen. You'll notice I have never taken that bet. I do know this, Leon is DAMN good, he speaks the truth, and has a much more compelling broadcast. There would certainly be a justice to beating WREC, but realists (usually basing opinions on fact) know that David more often than not, has his A** handed to him by Goliath too.

This station evokes passion on both sides, and that's cool too. The fact that it's getting to those who cannot think for themselves, is nice too. I am sure that was part of it's intent. As many who would love to see it fail, just here, should be reason enough, to have the format in the first place. Like it or not, Bush is creating more democrats, than Air America ever could, and that reminds me, I have to change my voter registration... CFKane
 
>"The statement that "everyone is getting excited about a station that hasn't made a dent in the market"..shows a real lack of radio knowledge by the author of that statement. Or maybe a desire not to give something new and creative it's due. Entercom/Memphis should be congratulated for taking basically a non- entity in Easy 680 and turning that frequency into a real radio station. To say the station "hasn't made a dent in the market" comes from the mind of a simpleton. All you had to do was observe the listener passion and excitement when Al Franken came to town. The listener response to that event was something you would never see at a music radio station event. It certainly had much more listener passion than the latest so called "media event"..the return of Drake and Zeke. That was a real snoozer! I don't see Drake and Zeke being invited to sit in on the editorial meeting of the Commerical Appeal, something Franken was invited to do. Plus what constitutes "making a dent"...is it all ratings? Come on, the station has only been on the air for a couple of months. It can take a good year for reliable ratings to surface given Arbitron's outmoded methodology. Listener response and passion is what constitutes "making a dent" and Progressive Talk 680 is making a real difference in the lives of it's listeners. All you have to do is check out the listeners comments on the air...oh wait, I forgot, those are all just station staff members who are calling in...never mind!



> On what facts do you base your statement that PT680 has
> > virtually NO audience? The numbers are not in as of now.
> > Perhaps the equation should be WREC= windshield...Leon
> Gray=
> > a big hard object traveling at an unknown velocity. Like
> > perhaps the wheels coming off Fleming's tired smoking
> > neo-conservative vehicle.
>
> I gotta tell ya... you liberals are long on wishful
> thinking. If you think any liberal gobbledy goop is going
> to beat Mike Fleming I wanna hit off that fattie you're
> smoking. Aside from the fact most of the material they
> present is out in left field (pardon the pun), the shows on
> 680 should be marketed as comedy since there's little
> factual basis for most of their arguements.
>
> Wishful thinking... and I can't wait for the numbers to come
> out and verify that.
>
> P.S. - This is not a slam of Leon - He's a great talent.
> It's just this oooh and aaah over a station that isn't
> making a dent in the market is driving me crazy... if y'all
> only had the same enthusiasm for 98.1 with it's low numbers,
> but I digress.
>
 
>"The statement that "everyone is getting excited about a station that hasn't made a dent in the market"..shows a real lack of radio knowledge by the author of that statement. Or maybe a desire not to give something new and creative it's due. Entercom/Memphis should be congratulated for taking basically a non- entity in Easy 680 and turning that frequency into a real radio station. To say the station "hasn't made a dent in the market" comes from the mind of a simpleton. All you had to do was observe the listener passion and excitement when Al Franken came to town. The listener response to that event was something you would never see at a music radio station event. It certainly had much more listener passion than the latest so called "media event"..the return of Drake and Zeke. That was a real snoozer! I don't see Drake and Zeke being invited to sit in on the editorial meeting of the Commerical Appeal, something Franken was invited to do. Plus what constitutes "making a dent"...is it all ratings? Come on, the station has only been on the air for a couple of months. It can take a good year for reliable ratings to surface given Arbitron's outmoded methodology. Listener response and passion is what constitutes "making a dent" and Progressive Talk 680 is making a real difference in the lives of it's listeners. All you have to do is check out the listeners comments on the air...oh wait, I forgot, those are all just station staff members who are calling in...my bad!



> On what facts do you base your statement that PT680 has
> > virtually NO audience? The numbers are not in as of now.
> > Perhaps the equation should be WREC= windshield...Leon
> Gray=
> > a big hard object traveling at an unknown velocity. Like
> > perhaps the wheels coming off Fleming's tired smoking
> > neo-conservative vehicle.
>
> I gotta tell ya... you liberals are long on wishful
> thinking. If you think any liberal gobbledy goop is going
> to beat Mike Fleming I wanna hit off that fattie you're
> smoking. Aside from the fact most of the material they
> present is out in left field (pardon the pun), the shows on
> 680 should be marketed as comedy since there's little
> factual basis for most of their arguements.
>
> Wishful thinking... and I can't wait for the numbers to come
> out and verify that.
>
> P.S. - This is not a slam of Leon - He's a great talent.
> It's just this oooh and aaah over a station that isn't
> making a dent in the market is driving me crazy... if y'all
> only had the same enthusiasm for 98.1 with it's low numbers,
> but I digress.
>
 
I agree with most of this - and, Kane, you and I have talked and you KNOW I'm no Bush fan. I also think Leon is really good there's no arguement there. My *ONLY* beef is with most of what I've heard on AAR - Inasmuch as the GOP machine has done much to take away our liberties and helped big Oil to take a chunk out of the working man, the Liberals are all so far over to the left that it's actually comical. I frankly can't stand to listen because I hear constant bashing of everything I've prized as American, and it makes me sick. ARE YOU READING THIS DEWEY???

And... while most on this board don't come to his defense, Fleming does a good job as the sole voice of local conservatism. I find his arguements reasonable and accurate - even if it takes him an hour to spit out one sentence.

I think it will be a very good matchup in the afternoon, and Leon may even win a few books, but the balance of the day is in WREC's court.
>
> Whether or not the station ever takes down the CC owned
> conservative leaning WREC, or more specifically, Leon beats
> fleming, is yet, unseen. You'll notice I have never taken
> that bet. I do know this, Leon is DAMN good, he speaks the
> truth, and has a much more compelling broadcast. There
> would certainly be a justice to beating WREC, but realists
> (usually basing opinions on fact) know that David more often
> than not, has his A** handed to him by Goliath too.
>
> This station evokes passion on both sides, and that's cool
> too. The fact that it's getting to those who cannot think
> for themselves, is nice too. I am sure that was part of
> it's intent. As many who would love to see it fail, just
> here, should be reason enough, to have the format in the
> first place. Like it or not, Bush is creating more
> democrats, than Air America ever could, and that reminds me,
> I have to change my voter registration... CFKane
>

Oh, yes, and you know I've agreed with you on that point. Bush is turning many middle of the road Conservatives into Democrats, but I'll argue that anyone who will so easilly surrender their principles doesn't count anyway.<P ID="signature">______________
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> And... while most on this board don't come to his defense,
> Fleming does a good job as the sole voice of local
> conservatism. I find his arguements reasonable and accurate
> - even if it takes him an hour to spit out one sentence.

I actually never get to hear him these days. My main impression of Fleming was at the 2003 and 2004 March of Dimes A.I.R. Awards. The 2003 awards, he sat with his arms crossed, not applauding anyone, for any reason. In 2004, he left early, after a similar performance. He's a troll, no matter what side of the fence he sits on. Did anyone hear the "Eulogy" bit on Leon's first show? That was good stuff...

> Oh, yes, and you know I've agreed with you on that point.
> Bush is turning many middle of the road Conservatives into
> Democrats, but I'll argue that anyone who will so easilly
> surrender their principles doesn't count anyway.
>
As I have said before, you are more centered than you get credit for. However, being a recently converted MOR Conservative, I can tell you, basic principles, are exactly why I switched. I will take Lefty "wackos" over Orwellian control any day of the week, and I can do so, without compromising any principles. Right and Wrong, are bigger than Right and Left. Now get some sleep Steve, your hours are insane, even by big business republican standards! CFKane
 
Okay, it's throwdown time.

Hmmm... "Dewey", I've made you so angry you're probably shaking over there, and you had to post this TWICE to make your point.

You wrote:
> "To say the station
> "hasn't made a dent in the market" comes from the mind of a
> simpleton."

Okay, that's it. I've taken the high road here for the last several years in each and every discussion, but this is the last straw.

Simpleton? Let me tell you something.... No, wait, I been wanting to have a chat with you for about 4 years now so why don't you email me privately. You may disagree with my politics and such, but I take issue with your assertion that I don't have any real radio knowledge. Let me tell YOU something... Were I in your position I'd still be running ALL THREE radio stations, and I think after 25 years doing this I have *some* idea of how radio should be. To think, you get so rattled as to tear me up in public. Me, just a lowly night jock. Feel a little threatened?

Just remember, YOU took the gloves off.

Frankly, this whole 680 thing doesn't surprise me, coming from a member of the Germantown Democratic Club... or whatever it's called. You guys shout down anyone who doesn't agree with your politics - you guys, meaning Democrats, in general. Nice little elitist attitude you Dems have... and I'm not even a BUSH fan!!!

For the benefit of everyone else on the board... my apologies. I won't let this go on in public but I just gotta have a little conversation on behalf of me and a few others who've wanted this for a very long time... Please don't anyone else continue this branch of the thread, okay. This gets ugly, and I just delete it... this is my domain, after all.

Privately, "Dewey"... [email protected]. No threats, no anger, just a civil discussion about our radio passion. Thank you.



> >"The statement that "everyone is getting excited about a
> station that hasn't made a dent in the market"..shows a real
> lack of radio knowledge by the author of that statement. Or
> maybe a desire not to give something new and creative it's
> due. Entercom/Memphis should be congratulated for taking
> basically a non- entity in Easy 680 and turning that
> frequency into a real radio station. To say the station
> "hasn't made a dent in the market" comes from the mind of a
> simpleton. All you had to do was observe the listener
> passion and excitement when Al Franken came to town. The
> listener response to that event was something you would
> never see at a music radio station event. It certainly had
> much more listener passion than the latest so called "media
> event"..the return of Drake and Zeke. That was a real
> snoozer! I don't see Drake and Zeke being invited to sit in
> on the editorial meeting of the Commerical Appeal, something
> Franken was invited to do. Plus what constitutes "making a
> dent"...is it all ratings? Come on, the station has only
> been on the air for a couple of months. It can take a good
> year for reliable ratings to surface given Arbitron's
> outmoded methodology. Listener response and passion is what
> constitutes "making a dent" and Progressive Talk 680 is
> making a real difference in the lives of it's listeners. All
> you have to do is check out the listeners comments on the
> air...oh wait, I forgot, those are all just station staff
> members who are calling in...my bad!
>
>
>
> > On what facts do you base your statement that PT680 has
> > > virtually NO audience? The numbers are not in as of now.
>
> > > Perhaps the equation should be WREC= windshield...Leon
> > Gray=
> > > a big hard object traveling at an unknown velocity. Like
>
> > > perhaps the wheels coming off Fleming's tired smoking
> > > neo-conservative vehicle.
> >
> > I gotta tell ya... you liberals are long on wishful
> > thinking. If you think any liberal gobbledy goop is going
>
> > to beat Mike Fleming I wanna hit off that fattie you're
> > smoking. Aside from the fact most of the material they
> > present is out in left field (pardon the pun), the shows
> on
> > 680 should be marketed as comedy since there's little
> > factual basis for most of their arguements.
> >
> > Wishful thinking... and I can't wait for the numbers to
> come
> > out and verify that.
> >
> > P.S. - This is not a slam of Leon - He's a great talent.
> > It's just this oooh and aaah over a station that isn't
> > making a dent in the market is driving me crazy... if
> y'all
> > only had the same enthusiasm for 98.1 with it's low
> numbers,
> > but I digress.
> >
> <P ID="signature">______________
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