Leonard Khan goes to appeals court in effort to stop FCC and cartel.

[dbdigital]

HD Radio is a high school broadcaster's science project gone awry, and does far more harm then good.

Ahh, number 1 from the files. Good to see it again.

NOw..for a reality check:

It is not necessary for HD opponents to present some new digital alternative for tower owners especially since so many new digital broadcast technologies already exist, are popular, and can be equally utilized by anyone, including current AM/FM licensed broadcasters

CAm-D like HD is proprietary (costly) requires a new-er TX and has the dreaded sidebands.

This just the opposite of the claims for CAM-D. It will work with nearly any TX and the signal stays within the 10 KHz bandwidth. As for being proprietary, it is no more so than IBOC AND there are no license fees to pay.

Here are the talking points for Kahn's website:

1.) The Kahn Communications, Inc. CAM-D is up and doing what it promised on KDYL-AM 1060 in Salt Lake City. Tests on the spectrum analyzer show that it has a clean digital signal.

2.) We are delighted to be the first in the world to have this new digital modernization for AM Radio. Unlike the old IBOC System, CAM-D will not interfere with adjacent channels.

3.) CAM-D dramatically increases, and does not limit, sky wave coverage.

4.) CAM-D is fully compatible with the more than 800 million radios in America.

5.) CAM-D more than passes NRSC Standards with +/- 8 KHz bandwidth.

6.) CAM-D will utilize the several data channels that will alert the listening public about storms, road conditions, and national defense.

7.) The installation cost to broadcasters is minimal compared to Ibiquity. It does not require purchasing new transmitters, tower antennas, or processors.

8.) There is no time delay from mike to speaker in your car, home or business.

9.) Interference from high power electrical lines is eliminated almost completely. The signal remains strong when going through road underpasses.

10.) CAM-D will work to improve the AM band, not take it backwards to 5 KHz. More wide band digital radios are on the horizon that will make AM even better.

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[R.F. Burns]

One, where can we buy these fabulous receivers? Where can we hear Cam-D over the air and, how is it possible that AM doesn't fade out under overpasses on the highway considering that the fading is as much to do with frequency as it does mode. Finally, I had heard that everything in Cam-D is analog below a certain frequency. If that's so how is it free from interference? This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on Leonard's part.

 

[vsa]

One, where can we buy these fabulous receivers? Where can we hear Cam-D over the air and, how is it possible that AM doesn't fade out under overpasses on the highway considering that the fading is as much to do with frequency as it does mode. Finally, I had heard that everything in Cam-D is analog below a certain frequency. If that's so how is it free from interference? This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on Leonard's part.

"....where can we buy these fabulous receivers?"   Same arguement made by HD radio critics.

"...Where can we hear Cam-D over the air..."   Go here: http://wrathofkahn.net/     

"...how is it possible that AM doesn't fade out under overpasses..."   Kahn's patented technology.

"...how is it free from interference?"   How is HD radio free from interference, if you can even lock in the signal?

"...This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on Leonard's part."  Patent applied for.

Perhaps the best part of CAM-D, besides the fact that it does NOT cause new interference, is that it dramatically improves coverage and reception on about 800 million analog radios, thereby giving more AM stations a MORE VIABLE signal.

 

[Radioman100]

"....where can we buy these fabulous receivers?" Same arguement made by HD radio critics.

"...Where can we hear Cam-D over the air..." Go here: http://wrathofkahn.net/

"...how is it possible that AM doesn't fade out under overpasses..." Kahn's patented technology.

"...how is it free from interference?" How is HD radio free from interference, if you can even lock in the signal?

"...This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on Leonard's part." Patent applied for.

Perhaps the best part of CAM-D, besides the fact that it does NOT cause new interference, is that it dramatically improves coverage and reception on about 800 million analog radios, thereby giving more AM stations a MORE VIABLE signal.

Just because you have a patent on something doesn't mean it works as advertised. All the bogus herbal supplements advertised on radio typically have a line such as "our exclusive patented formula helps you lose weight 5X faster!" There's "patented" formulas advertised all the time that will supposedly give women bigger breasts, men larger...well, you know, and help you lose serious weight while you're eating your same lardy diet.

The difference between these advertisers and Leonard Khan is they don't operate "wrathful" websites that make them look like complete lunatics. That instantly destroys your credibility whether your product works or not.

 

[Len14043]

The dIBOCle at the FCC is just another example of what's happening in all aspects of government these days: federal, state and local - because people aren't paying attention.

It's the will of elites - we're talking BOTH parties here, GOP/Dem - overriding the interests of the poor unwashed masses who pull the whole load (I would count myself as a member of that club, as well as most posters here.) IBOC got force-fed to us by an elite consisting of Big Group Radio working hand in hand with an apathetic, incompetent FCC and a cynical and corrupt NAB. By the time even the most perceptive of those outside the "circle of political favor and power" realized what was happening, it was too late.

Who gets rich? Lobbyists and iBiquity execs, plus (briefly) IBOC gear manufacturers.

Who gets screwed? Everyone else.

If God smiles upon this mess with justice, the whole rotten concept will just die an overdue and well-deserved death. Real radio people will gradually take the medium over again and we'll start to hear programming that's actually worthwhile. In the meantime, to prevent further corruption of our American way of life: vote! Get rid of incumbents! Bombard your Congressmen and Senators with e-mails and tell 'em you're gonna throw 'em out if they don't start representing you!

We need to print up bumper stickers: RE-ELECT NOBODY.

As you know, I am not very fond of the AM IBOC system. But as far as our elected officials go, IBOC is far down their list of concerns. Since AM is already dying a slow death as many of the posters proclaim, and because dxers (no denigration to dxers because I am also one) are the main group of people affected, not many people will notice. I agree with you about the AM system being flawed, but unfortunatly the number of affected people are too small of a group to have a political impact. In a nutshell, the number of AM listeners is small, the number of people that listen to skywave is a subset of that small group, and the number that are negatively affected by AM IBOC is a subset of that subset. The flamethrowers that generally receive good ratings are not severely impacted by IBOC inside their main service area. Sorry Bob, I'm just being realistic.

 

[R.F. Burns]

One, where can we buy these fabulous receivers? Where can we hear Cam-D over the air and, how is it possible that AM doesn't fade out under overpasses on the highway considering that the fading is as much to do with frequency as it does mode. Finally, I had heard that everything in Cam-D is analog below a certain frequency. If that's so how is it free from interference? This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on Leonard's part.

"....where can we buy these fabulous receivers?" Same arguement made by HD radio critics.


I have proven through audio files which I have recorded off the airthat IBOC works. There are stations all over the country running IBOC successfully.

"...Where can we hear Cam-D over the air..." Go here: http://wrathofkahn.net/"


Kahn's demos are old and were supposedly recorded over the air under laboratory condx. Where can I buy a radio. I have bought 3 HD radios from normal electronics dealers

"...how is it possible that AM doesn't fade out under overpasses..." Kahn's patented technology.""

Uhhh, yea, he's found a way to prevent MW analog signals from fading when driving under a steel overpass. If he has this technology patented he could use it on already existing AM stations. I have yet to see it in operation. His methods of improving AM coverage like the Powerside get mixed results and for the most part are on equipment shelves pulled out of service by many fine radio stations.



"...how is it free from interference?" How is HD radio free from interference, if you can even lock in the signal?"


Where did you get this? I can pull in many HD stations on both AM & FM using my Receptor and it's dipole at my bedside.

"...This sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on Leonard's part." Patent applied for."

Let me know when the patent is granted.

"Perhaps the best part of CAM-D, besides the fact that it does NOT cause new interference, is that it dramatically improves coverage and reception on about 800 million analog radios, thereby giving more AM stations a MORE VIABLE signal. "


And there are few is any stations of any consequence broadcasting in Cam-D and there are NO radios for sale. That's quite some system he has there. He's fighting not only the broadcast industry but the entire electronics industry as well. Maybe he could be cast in the remake of the Man of La Mancha.

 

[Dighton Rockhead]

Mr. Burns suggested a possible career move for old Mr. Khan:

Maybe he could be cast in the remake of the Man of La Mancha.

I say we should start calling around to some Broadway and Hollywood casting people. Leonard is perfect for the part.

 

[davideduardo]

This just the opposite of the claims for CAM-D. It will work with nearly any TX and the signal stays within the 10 KHz bandwidth. As for being proprietary, it is no more so than IBOC AND there are no license fees to pay.

Receiver manufacturers know how unimportant AM is, They can see that the spending consumer does not use AM at all, and so the manufacturers will not spend one cent per radio to add a system that only improves AM since they believe nobody will buy a radio because the AM sounds better.

Any system, to succeed on AM, has to be on the same chip as any FM improvement, be compatible with same, and not add any cost. receiver manufacturers would love to drop the AM band entirely, in fact... but the small residual audience left plus play by play sports is what keeps receivers with AM on the shelves.

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

receiver manufacturers would love to drop the AM band entirely, in fact... but the small residual audience left plus play by play sports is what keeps receivers with AM on the shelves.

And in fact, there are quite a few "FM only" portables in circulation -- if you count those little "autoscan" toys.

Isn't Kahn also notorious for keeping the workings of his systems under wraps? He refuses to licence out his designs....is it any wonder he hasn't gotten anywhere with anything he has invented?

If Kahn wants Cam-D receivers out there, he's going to have to licence the technology to manufacturers. Or is he planning on getting into the radio manufacturing business? :-\

 

[KB1OKL]

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