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LET THERE BE ROCK

Preferably alternative but..................Im just sayin'. The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT is un American.

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> Preferably alternative but..................Im just sayin'.
> The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT is un
> American.
>
I remember years in the 90s when markets like Memphis and Jackson (Mississippi) didn't have any current-based Rock stations either. So even if a Rock station that plays currents disappears from the NYC dial it doesn't mean that it will always stay that way.
Where are the Rolling Stones of today? the David Bowies? Queen? Beatles? Pearl Jam? Led Zepplin? Deep Purple? Boston? Van Halen?
Male-oriented Rock stations that play currents are not doing very well in New York, Chicago, Miami, and San Francisco at the moment. Chicago and San Francisco both have Adult Album Alternative stations that do BETTER both in ratings and revenue.

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But isn't WAXQ-104.3 mostly classic rock??

Perhaps after WXRK-92.3's change to "Free FM", WAXQ may tweak to a hybrid of classic and modern rock.
 
> > Preferably alternative but..................Im just
> sayin'.
> > The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT is un
>
> > American.
> >
> I remember years in the 90s when markets like Memphis and
> Jackson (Mississippi) didn't have any current-based Rock
> stations either. So even if a Rock station that plays
> currents disappears from the NYC dial it doesn't mean that
> it will always stay that way.
> Where are the Rolling Stones of today? the David Bowies?
> Queen? Beatles? Pearl Jam? Led Zepplin? Deep Purple? Boston?
> Van Halen?
> Male-oriented Rock stations that play currents are not doing
> very well in New York, Chicago, Miami, and San Francisco at
> the moment. Chicago and San Francisco both have Adult Album
> Alternative stations that do BETTER both in ratings and
> revenue.
>
> end transmission.
>
That is not entirely true, as far as SF is concerned Live 105 bills like crazy hence they are still laternative and will remian so even after January when Howard Stern is no longer part to the terrestrial world. Chicago is not a fair example either because WXRt in addition to being the adult alt station is also the heritage rock station in that market even more so than the LOOP. and while XRT is an adult alt station with heritage, Q101 was never ever a ratings powerhouse, never. Their profile was always pretty low even with Mancow aboard, they must bill well though because they have been there for a good few years now and emmis is not a company known for it's rock chops as much as rythmic.

Your point is valid though there will never be another beatles or stones, those bands were organic and grew organically. The talent or potential for such movements do not exist now becuase those guys also did something original at the time whereas there is little new to be done now, and the A & R guys are all trying to sign "the next band of the moment whoever" instead of finding a New sound or movement. Alt rock had been a formatic dumping ground until the mid 1990's when it became a really viable producer of legit acts, many of them the Seattle bands. For the longest time the alternative stations were stuck with novelty bands from England and bands that labels did not know what else to do with. AOr didn't want them and CHR didn't either, they became alt staples until they blew up there and crossed to either format. Until there is a real rock revoloution and revival then your point will stand and Hip hop is the new rock these days whether the old guard rock guys like hearing it or not. Hip hop has captured the hearts and minds of the youth culture, hip hop is where the rebellion is these days.

Holla!

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> But isn't WAXQ-104.3 mostly classic rock??
>
> Perhaps after WXRK-92.3's change to "Free FM", WAXQ may
> tweak to a hybrid of classic and modern rock.
>
Why would they do that? whhat would be the upside? they're billing fine as is. That would not make any sense for them. Plus theyve built a reputation of being NY's classic rock for years, why would they throw that away as a knee jerk reaction to XRK?.

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by NotoriousN-I-K on 11/11/05 04:46 AM.</FONT></P>
 
I see Q104 expanding their playlist to include the "hot" rock bands with current hits...sort of what WCBS-FM did with their "Future Gold." We can only hope that Bob Buchmann takes the station in that direction.<P ID="signature">______________

Co/Moderator: New York,Miami,Airchecks,Classic Radio and Where Are They Now?</P>
 
> > But isn't WAXQ-104.3 mostly classic rock??
> >
> > Perhaps after WXRK-92.3's change to "Free FM", WAXQ may
> > tweak to a hybrid of classic and modern rock.
> >
> Why would they do that? whhat would be the upside? they're
> billing fine as is. That would not make any sense for them.
> Plus theyve built a reputation of being NY's classic rock
> for years, why would they throw that away as a knee jerk
> reaction to XRK?.
>
let there be rock is by ac/dc..a blues rock band that is not alternative..just thought i would mention that :)<P ID="signature">______________
note to tvland...bring back wkrp!!!</P>
 
> > > But isn't WAXQ-104.3 mostly classic rock??
> > >
> > > Perhaps after WXRK-92.3's change to "Free FM", WAXQ may
> > > tweak to a hybrid of classic and modern rock.
> > >
> > Why would they do that? whhat would be the upside? they're
>
> > billing fine as is. That would not make any sense for
> them.
> > Plus theyve built a reputation of being NY's classic rock
> > for years, why would they throw that away as a knee jerk
> > reaction to XRK?.
> >
> let there be rock is by ac/dc..a blues rock band that is not
> alternative..just thought i would mention that :)

Of course.

Can't I like both?
 
> I see Q104 expanding their playlist to include the "hot"
> rock bands with current hits...sort of what WCBS-FM did with
> their "Future Gold." We can only hope that Bob Buchmann
> takes the station in that direction.
>
Q104.3 should NOT change anything. They're doing just fine the way they are. If anything, they'll get more listeners by the loss of K-Rock. If K-Rock is failing with its classic/current mix, why would Q104.3 want to replicate it? Keep Q104.3 the way it is, they'll be just fine. Eventually, someone else will carry the new rock torch.

Jacko<P ID="signature">______________
I live for my dream,
And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
 
q104.3 has evolved considerably over years since it began in July 1996. It also has a history as an alternative/active rock station...I think a tweak is in order. The original Q signed on in December 1993..it was perhaps the very best "rock" station ever on the New York airwaves...everyone including Howard listened to it...as soon as his show would end every rock fan would switch over to the Q.
>
 
Re: LET THERE BE ROCK ... done the right way

> > Preferably alternative but..................Im just
> sayin'.
> > The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT is un
>
> > American.
> >
> > End transmission.
> >
>
> There is still Q1043.
>


Little consolation to those that are looking for Modern Rock in NYC, as WAXQ is all Classic Rock, all the time. Looking for Nirvana, Soundgarden, System Of A Down, Godsmack or Disturbed - not to mention Beck, Depeche Mode, Morrissey, and Radiohead? You won't find ANY of them on Q 104.3 . But if you're looking for tons of the same old played-out trucker rock hits that have been played an endless amount of times ... but I digress.</P>

I must reiterate this statement - where WXRK went wrong as a music station was not in format, but in execution. People are going to tune out if you become too bland and predictable and listen more to market research specialists than to the listeners themselves. They were the last station in the country to add new music (for instance, they added Crossfade's "Cold" a good 5 or 6 months after it debuted on the charts!), but played music that was awful as long as it was highly visible (case in point: Kelly Osbourne - Shut Up ... a song that went nowhere on the charts, I might add). WXRK was way out of touch with their audience, and crashed and burned as a result.</P>

A current-based Rock station can do well in NYC, if it's handled the right way. Either a current-intensive Active Rocker or a real Alternative (read: no 3 Doors Down or Nickelback, and definitely no Kelly Osbourne) station would rate and bill well, provided that it has a good solid library and doesn't play any song more than 30 times a week - combine either with a solid morning show and it would become a force to be reckoned with in NYC. Hey, if a glorified jukebox, albeit a decent one with excellent variety, has a place in this market, why couldn't the station that I just described?</P>
 
Rock

> > > Preferably alternative but..................Im just
> > sayin'.
> > > The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT is
> un
> >
> > > American.
> > >
> > > End transmission.
> > >
> >
> > There is still Q1043.
> >
> Little consolation to those that are looking for Modern Rock
> in NYC, as WAXQ is all Classic Rock, all the time. Looking
> for Nirvana, Soundgarden, System Of A Down, Godsmack or
> Disturbed - not to mention Beck, Depeche Mode, Morrissey,
> and Radiohead? You won't find ANY of them on Q 104.3 . But
> if you're looking for tons of the same old played-out
> trucker rock hits that have been played an endless amount of
> times ... but I digress.

Yes, it may be little consolation, but it's better than nothing. Some people on this board act like there is absolutely NO rock outlet in NYC. And, are you saying that Q1043 plays the same stuff over and over again? Yes, they play a lot of songs over and over, but I think they dig deeper than most stations. I guess modern rock fans in the area will have to use other resources for their music. Trust me, there's plenty.

Question: Will WXRK be doing rock weekends like WYSP in Philly?

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Re: Rock

> > > > Preferably alternative but..................Im just
> > > sayin'.
> > > > The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT
> is
> > un
> > >
> > > > American.
> > > >
> > > > End transmission.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There is still Q1043.
> > >
> > Little consolation to those that are looking for Modern
> Rock
> > in NYC, as WAXQ is all Classic Rock, all the time.
> Looking
> > for Nirvana, Soundgarden, System Of A Down, Godsmack or
> > Disturbed - not to mention Beck, Depeche Mode, Morrissey,
> > and Radiohead? You won't find ANY of them on Q 104.3 .
> But
> > if you're looking for tons of the same old played-out
> > trucker rock hits that have been played an endless amount
> of
> > times ... but I digress.
>
> Yes, it may be little consolation, but it's better than
> nothing. Some people on this board act like there is
> absolutely NO rock outlet in NYC. And, are you saying that
> Q1043 plays the same stuff over and over again? Yes, they
> play a lot of songs over and over, but I think they dig
> deeper than most stations. I guess modern rock fans in the
> area will have to use other resources for their music. Trust
> me, there's plenty.
>
> Question: Will WXRK be doing rock weekends like WYSP in
> Philly?
>


I heard that they would be playing music on the weekends.
 
Re: LET THERE BE ROCK ... done the right way

> > > Preferably alternative but..................Im just
> > sayin'.
> > > The nation's largest market cannot go rockless, THAT is
> un
> >
> > > American.
> > >
> > > End transmission.
> > >
> >
> > There is still Q1043.
> >
> Little consolation to those that are looking for Modern Rock
> in NYC, as WAXQ is all Classic Rock, all the time. Looking
> for Nirvana, Soundgarden, System Of A Down, Godsmack or
> Disturbed - not to mention Beck, Depeche Mode, Morrissey,
> and Radiohead? You won't find ANY of them on Q 104.3 . But
> if you're looking for tons of the same old played-out
> trucker rock hits that have been played an endless amount of
> times ... but I digress. I must reiterate this statement -
> where WXRK went wrong as a music station was not in format,
> but in execution. People are going to tune out if you
> become too bland and predictable and listen more to market
> research specialists than to the listeners themselves. They
> were the last station in the country to add new music (for
> instance, they added Crossfade's "Cold" a good 5 or 6 months
> after it debuted on the charts!), but played music that was
> awful as long as it was highly visible (case in point: Kelly
> Osbourne - Shut Up ... a song that went nowhere on the
> charts, I might add). WXRK was way out of touch with their
> audience, and crashed and burned as a result. A
> current-based Rock station can do well in NYC, if it's
> handled the right way. Either a current-intensive Active
> Rocker or a real Alternative (read: no 3 Doors Down or
> Nickelback, and definitely no Kelly Osbourne) station would
> rate and bill well, provided that it has a good solid
> library and doesn't play any song more than 30 times a week
> - combine either with a solid morning show and it would
> become a force to be reckoned with in NYC. Hey, if a
> glorified jukebox, albeit a decent one with excellent
> variety, has a place in this market, why couldn't the
> station that I just described?
>
Dude what are you talking about? Everyone thinks they have the answers as to what every single station SHOULD be playing. Krock didnt pull these songs out of a hat, they were all researched etc. Believe it or not Morrissey is meaningless in most markets and I LOVE MOrrissey. Depeche mode had been one of my favorite bands forever but THEy are over, OVER have been for years and no one is really playing the new single (which I think is actually decent and what they shold have put out right after "Violator, true kroq LA is pounding it but they should ) WLIR is playing everything you've mentioned an their numbers are far from stellar and thats in suburban long Island too, they're consistantly beaten by botn WBAB and KRock,IN LONG ISLAND... so you're just mistaken. Crossfade? sorry just not a big hit so it doesn't matter when whatever station added it, songs like that are a dime a dozen and to many represent exactly what is wrong with rock radio in general, they epitomize the faceless here today gone later today band that no one knows or really cares about, plus they sound like a billion other bands too.

I applaud your passion for the music you love but you simply dont know what you're talking about man.
 
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