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Lets REALLY deregulate radio..

Tom Wells said:
I say bring back 7-7-7, 1st class tickets and an a paid engineer on staff per so many stations, required.

In this economy, forcing assests to be divested at way below the price paid does not pass muster.

First Phones were required when equipment was far less reliable and stable. Today, it makes absolutely no sense.

And the reliability of today's equipment is such that many stations, particularly in smaller markets, can use a contract engineer who oversees other stations and, probably some cell sites or two way rigs, too.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Tom Wells said:
I say bring back 7-7-7, 1st class tickets and an a paid engineer on staff per so many stations, required.

In this economy, forcing assests to be divested at way below the price paid does not pass muster.

Right. Because watching stockholders get burned for more than $50/share is muster.
 
I did not suggest one per station.
Also required should be 1st class ticket engineers in the employ of
electrical utilities, who clearly do not respect good RF practice. These engineers would be responsible for
identifying QRM sources and coordinating repairs, which are clearly needed everywhere.
If the equipment is so much better and reliable, why can I tune up and down the dial and half the stations sound awful?

Regarding forced divestment of properties, why should cluster owners even be required to have audio on the carrier at this point?
Think how much money they could save if the onerous requirement of modulation were dropped!
Clusters already use many stations as "losers" just to keep other stations more profitable.
What's the difference with silence or a simple loop message that tells you to tune to the other frequencies they "own"?

Some of this is sarcasm, some of it isn't.
I can speak only to the engineering issue, I've never been devious enough to find newer and better ways to exploit
value as is required in the modern business world.
My experience is that when companies will not pay for someone adequately skilled to care for their technology, things
go to pot in fairly short order.

Back in my childhood, annual automobile inspections in Indiana were required to be able to license the car.
As soon as this requirement was dropped, you began seeing people driving around cars with shattered windshields, bald tires
and no mufflers. We can all understand why this scenario is preferable to keeping a law which employed the mechanic at the old
corner gas station.

How many other niceties of orderly civilization simply cost too much to keep up?
Police? Fire? We could save lots if we simply decide they were luxuries we can no longer afford.

As long as the laws of physics are inviolable, attempts to circumvent proper engineering
will be evident in the product.

You don't always get what you pay for, but you sure as heck don't get any extra just by accident.
I used to stop for broken down cars on the side of the road to help folks, and back in the day when cars used more
robust, reliable technologies, more often than not, I got them going again.
Now I can only laugh at them, while still wishing them the best.
Their Lexus cannot be fixed on the side of road, it will need an expensive "no start" diagnosis.
I could never afford to buy a Lexus, or any car so precious that I wasn't able to repair it myself MOST of the time.

And why should I stop on the side of the road to help out a "suit" from the "upper crust"?
Their ilk has discounted the value of engineering. They should suffer and call AAA.
While I've been exploited in a field service travel job, desk drivers made enough money to speculate in housing
and other "investment" vehicles that were not sustainable.

I've really had it with the short-term view of best business practices that only serve the stockholders
while exploiting those who bust their knuckles doing the real work in this country.

Please explain why the current mess is preferable to the more orderly RF environment we once enjoyed.
 
1st and 3rd

Put me on the bandwagon of those advocating a return to 1st and 3rd ticket licenses. The 3rd class license with Broadcast Endorsement was like a drivers license permit test - it demonstrated that you at least read the "basics" manual and knew something about your responsibilities as an operator of a broadcast facility.

I suspect that several points on this thread would be moot if the FCC actually enforced existing rules and regulations instead of waiting for somebody to complain that there was a problem, then putting that complaint in an ever-growing queue serviced by an ever-shrinking group of engineers. Right now, it's almost like some broadcasters with very deep pockets developed close political relationships with those in charge of funding the FCC's enforcement division.
 
SirRoxalot said:
TheBigA said:
Interesting...how much government regulation is there in the internet? Not much. And people love it. No requirements for local news, no requirements to serve the public, and no limitations on the number of domains you can own. If it works so well for the internet, why not apply the same logic to broadcasting?

That logic will become valid as soon as there are unlimited radio channels available, anyone who applies can have one, and they can be run for about 8 bucks a month.

If you don't mind an AM frequency, they're available in just about every city. There are no financial requirements set for broadcast licenses. You pay the application fee, and you set the budget.
 
Tom Wells said:
I say bring back 7-7-7, 1st class tickets and an a paid engineer on staff per so many stations, required.

As I said, the government has no money. Therefore they will approve no additional regulations because they don't have the staff to oversee them. There is no federal benefit to 7-7-7.


SirRoxalot said:
Put me on the bandwagon of those advocating a return to 1st and 3rd ticket licenses. The 3rd class license with Broadcast Endorsement was like a drivers license permit test - it demonstrated that you at least read the "basics" manual and knew something about your responsibilities as an operator of a broadcast facility. .

This would require the government to oversee testing and certification, which they don't have the staff to do.

SirRoxalot said:
I suspect that several points on this thread would be moot if the FCC actually enforced existing rules and regulations instead of waiting for somebody to complain that there was a problem,

And as I've said many times, the reason they don't enforce existing rules is they don't have the staffing or budget. They outsource technical and research studies. This has been the way the FCC has operated since Reagan. People who wish for more regulations, or a return to past requirements, or licenses are all dreaming. None of it will happen in any of our lifetimes, because we now have way too much debt to pay for such luxuries.


Tom Wells said:
Please explain why the current mess is preferable to the more orderly RF environment we once enjoyed.

It isn't preferable...it's all we can afford. We are now dependent on China and other countries to pay for our debt.

We mortgaged off our future to fight a few silly wars and give some people tax refunds.
 
Well wait. we'll all have jobs on road crews!

BigA you are correct about FCC budgets..where is the tax money going to come from to over the divestiture and micromanage every aspect of programming for those wonderful new owners?
 
Oh, and all DJs must be able to convert rectangular- to -polar coordinates in their head. :D
 
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