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Lib Talk is a RETARDED format...

I hate Lib talk, have you ever listened to it??? There's so much mis-information being spread on air-america it makes me want to vomit!

Look, Liberal talk programs are all the same. No logic, no facts, no points. I can't wait till it tanks even more then it's allready tanking. Enough is enough with this liberal BS,

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> I hate Lib talk, have you ever listened to it??? There's so
> much mis-information being spread on air-america it makes me
> want to vomit!
>
> Look, Liberal talk programs are all the same. No logic, no
> facts, no points. I can't wait till it tanks even more then
> it's allready tanking. Enough is enough with this liberal
> BS,
>
> Unknown Error
>

The views and opinions expressed...

Sigh. Take it elsewhere guy.
 
I am a strong conserative that listens to people like Hannity and Bill Cunningham (out of Cincinnati). But I do listen to progressive (liberal) talk radio because it gets me to thinking, gets me fired up, so I will get out and vote for more conseratives. Seriously, even Hannity and others don't get me to think to much, because I always agree with them.


> > I hate Lib talk, have you ever listened to it??? There's
> so
> > much mis-information being spread on air-america it makes
> me
> > want to vomit!
> >
> > Look, Liberal talk programs are all the same. No logic,
> no
> > facts, no points. I can't wait till it tanks even more
> then
> > it's allready tanking. Enough is enough with this liberal
>
> > BS,
> >
> > Unknown Error
> >
>
> The views and opinions expressed...
>
> Sigh. Take it elsewhere guy.
>
 
Don't feed the troll. (NT)

> The views and opinions expressed...
>
> Sigh. Take it elsewhere guy.
>
 
> I am a strong conserative that listens to people like
> Hannity and Bill Cunningham (out of Cincinnati). But I do
> listen to progressive (liberal) talk radio because it gets
> me to thinking, gets me fired up, so I will get out and vote
> for more conseratives. Seriously, even Hannity and others
> don't get me to think to much, because I always agree with
> them.
>
>
> > > I hate Lib talk, have you ever listened to it???
> There's
> > so
> > > much mis-information being spread on air-america it
> makes
> > me
> > > want to vomit!
> > >
> > > Look, Liberal talk programs are all the same. No logic,
>
> > no
> > > facts, no points. I can't wait till it tanks even more
> > then
> > > it's allready tanking. Enough is enough with this
> liberal
> >
> > > BS,
> > >
> > > Unknown Error
> > >
> >
> > The views and opinions expressed...
> >
> > Sigh. Take it elsewhere guy.
> >
>


I consider myself conservative, but if a Liberal host can make it entertaining and make me think, great. Stephanie Miller is OK.. Schultz seems to me is a Rush clone on the liberal side. I actually enjoyed Merle Pollis on WJW 850 a number of years ago. There's room for both sides, just make it entertaining an d good radio.
 
> I consider myself conservative, but if a Liberal host can
> make it entertaining and make me think, great. Stephanie
> Miller is OK.. Schultz seems to me is a Rush clone on the
> liberal side. I actually enjoyed Merle Pollis on WJW 850 a
> number of years ago. There's room for both sides, just make
> it entertaining an d good radio.
>
Merle on WJW? I don't remember that but I recall him on 1300 during the "original" People Power days. Is he still doing some stuff on WELW?

I used to be a Die Hard "Dito Head" but the more I listened closely to "El Rushbo" and his unwillingness to give any form of credit to the other side turned me off! I'm saying "What If" the left came up with something that conservatives would agree with? El Rushbo would find something wrong with it! Convesly I've listened to some of the Air America stuff and many of those hosts are as non-supportive of the right as Rush & Hanity are to the left!



Remember the days after 911? How each everyone was working with each other?Man has that gone away, we are more devise then we've ever been.

I'll take more of Mike Gallagher & Glenn Beck, entertaining, enlightening and I'm sure if the other side did or proposed something good, they'd give credit where credit is due!

I caught an hour of Ed Schultz today on WVLY in Wheeling, I wouldn't call him a left wing Rush clone, he was raking Howard Dean over the coals! Could you see Rush doing that to our president?

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> The views and opinions expressed...
> Sigh. Take it elsewhere guy.

Is school out already? I thought they had another week.

I admire the restraint on this board. Make a comment like that over on the News/Talk board and they'll hack radio-info.com, retrieve your IP address, trace it, custom-write a virus for your computer and deliver it by morning.
 
> Remember the days after 911? How each everyone was working
> with each other?Man has that gone away, we are more devise
> then we've ever been.


Yes, that's why I really don't care for ANY kind of AM talk radio. It's RED Kool Aid or BLUE Kool Aid. I am kind of rooting for 1350 and Air America ONLY to create a balance of opinions on talkradio, which did not exist locally until Springer a few weeks ago, and recently 1350 and 1520 (when I can get it).

I used to like Sam Donaldson's show because he found good and bad on both sides, and used to say "they got this right" or "they got this wrong". But the ratings failed because, unfortunatly, politics in the USA has become a sport where you wear your stupid team colors, and the object is to defeat the "opposition" at all costs, booing them at every opportunity.

Just look at the boneheaded post that started this thread. "Lib Talk is a retarted format.....They lie....blah blah blah". Rush originated the term "Lib", by the way, and now all the parrots are repeating the phrase. Kool Aid? This person went back for seconds!
 
> Merle on WJW? I don't remember that but I recall him on 1300
> during the "original" People Power days. Is he still doing
> some stuff on WELW?

I don't know. But he was indeed on WJW/850 along with the late Joel Rose. I used to listen to the station, and as a young guy, was even a guest on one of the shows.

I believe he was also on WBBG/1260 in its "SuperTalk" days, but I may be wrong in that recollection.

-OA
 
Right vs. Left Talk

> I used to like Sam Donaldson's show because he found good
> and bad on both sides, and used to say "they got this right"
> or "they got this wrong". But the ratings failed because,
> unfortunatly, politics in the USA has become a sport where
> you wear your stupid team colors, and the object is to
> defeat the "opposition" at all costs, booing them at every
> opportunity.

You know who I enjoyed?

Gil Gross. He had a syndicated show via CBS Radio Network a few years back. WNIR used to carry it overnights after the old "Dating Show", and a station I worked at carried it overnights in the mid-90's until CBS cancelled it. Gil is now ABC Radio's evening (ET) anchor on the main "Information" network, which means he's heard on both WHLO/640 and soon-to-be-WARF/1350, at least as long as the local CC cluster hangs onto ABC. (Fox News Radio is coming soon, at least on 640.)

The thing I liked about him? He was a crisp, interesting listen, and would take ANYONE to task on an issue when it didn't make sense. And it didn't matter if they were a Republican or Democrat.

That's darn near impossible anymore.

Hell, I would be a *great* issues talk show host. I'd kick butt. I have all the tools, and would be able to keep and entertain an audience. But since I'm not really on either "political sports side", there's no place for me. Today's radio really has no room for someone who could tweak President Bush and Howard Dean in the same show. ;)

-OA
 
I agree. I'm conservative on most issues and enjoy Rush, Howie Carr,
Ingraham, and Hannity but Miller's show isn't bad. "If they can make
it entertaining..."

> I consider myself conservative, but if a Liberal host can
> make it entertaining and make me think, great. Stephanie
> Miller is OK.. Schultz seems to me is a Rush clone on the
> liberal side. I actually enjoyed Merle Pollis on WJW 850 a
> number of years ago. There's room for both sides, just make
> it entertaining an d good radio.
>
 
MODERATOR NOTE

For someone who can only think of the word "retarded" to describe something, actually says ALOT about you. Anyone with an inkling of knowledge should know that not everything on the dial is going to appeal to everyone.

You must be one of those who aren't in that group lucky enough to have an "inkling of knowledge."

In the future, it would be in your best interest for you to choose your language more carefully. Your attempt at baiting failed miserably (baiting of this type, BTW, is not tolerated at all on Radio-info.com).

Did you understand that or should I have spelled it out more clearly, Corky?

For everyone else who responded to this thread, I would like to highly commend you for NOT getting all political (which is NOT what this board is about) and ish on this topic and keeping it strictly radio and/or for treating this thread for what it really is: uneducated crap. For those who visit and post on the N/T board regularly, you know there are a few who aren't that smart.
 
Re: Right vs. Left Talk

> > I used to like Sam Donaldson's show because he found good
> > and bad on both sides, and used to say "they got this
> right"
> > or "they got this wrong". But the ratings failed because,
>
> > unfortunatly, politics in the USA has become a sport where
>
> > you wear your stupid team colors, and the object is to
> > defeat the "opposition" at all costs, booing them at every
>
> > opportunity.
>

> The thing I liked about him? He was a crisp, interesting
> listen, and would take ANYONE to task on an issue when it
> didn't make sense. And it didn't matter if they were a
> Republican or Democrat.
>
> That's darn near impossible anymore.
>
> Hell, I would be a *great* issues talk show host. I'd kick
> butt. I have all the tools, and would be able to keep and
> entertain an audience. But since I'm not really on either
> "political sports side", there's no place for me. Today's
> radio really has no room for someone who could tweak
> President Bush and Howard Dean in the same show. ;)
>
> -OA
>
It's interesting that, according to Talker's magazine's Talk Radio Research Project, 56% of talk radio listeners consider themselves independents. And yet, like you both said, talk radio has become very polarized. I'd love to hear you tweak both Bush and Dean in the same show OA - kind of like libertarian Alex Jones without the conspiracy theories? I think for that kind of show to be successful however, it definitely has to have a lot of entertainment value, and probably more skewering of both sides than praising of both sides. How about a host that could get a guest on from either party and really grill them the way an opposite party host would? I.E. - talk to Jesse Jackson the way Hannity or O'Rielly would, but then talk to Dr. Dobson the way Jerry Springer would.
 
Good one, troll-boy.

I'll take Mike Malloy with a side dish of Al Franken any day...
 
Re: Right vs. Left Talk

Mike McConnell (WLW, "The Weekend")comes close, he can skewer the extremists on both sides, sometimes by turning up the heat slowly until the frog is cooked.


> > I used to like Sam Donaldson's show because he found
> good
> > > and bad on both sides, and used to say "they got this
> > right"
> > > or "they got this wrong". But the ratings failed
> because,
> >
> > > unfortunatly, politics in the USA has become a sport
> where
> >
> > > you wear your stupid team colors, and the object is to
> > > defeat the "opposition" at all costs, booing them at
> every
> >
> > > opportunity.
> >
>
> > The thing I liked about him? He was a crisp, interesting
> > listen, and would take ANYONE to task on an issue when it
> > didn't make sense. And it didn't matter if they were a
> > Republican or Democrat.
> >
> > That's darn near impossible anymore.
> >
> > Hell, I would be a *great* issues talk show host. I'd
> kick
> > butt. I have all the tools, and would be able to keep and
>
> > entertain an audience. But since I'm not really on either
>
> > "political sports side", there's no place for me. Today's
>
> > radio really has no room for someone who could tweak
> > President Bush and Howard Dean in the same show. ;)
> >
> > -OA
> >
> It's interesting that, according to Talker's magazine's Talk
> Radio Research Project, 56% of talk radio listeners consider
> themselves independents. And yet, like you both said, talk
> radio has become very polarized. I'd love to hear you tweak
> both Bush and Dean in the same show OA - kind of like
> libertarian Alex Jones without the conspiracy theories? I
> think for that kind of show to be successful however, it
> definitely has to have a lot of entertainment value, and
> probably more skewering of both sides than praising of both
> sides. How about a host that could get a guest on from
> either party and really grill them the way an opposite party
> host would? I.E. - talk to Jesse Jackson the way Hannity or
> O'Rielly would, but then talk to Dr. Dobson the way Jerry
> Springer would.
>
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Mike McConnell

> Mike McConnell (WLW, "The Weekend")comes close, he can
> skewer the extremists on both sides, sometimes by turning up
> the heat slowly until the frog is cooked.

Agreed, and the most interesting radio he does is when he "goes off the reservation" and gives a prominent Republican heat for something. You can almost hear the regular "conservative talk" listener squirm in his seat when McConnell does it.

But he doesn't really do it all that often. He probably knows he can't get away with it a lot, given the traditional P1s for the format. Heck, even Rush will back away from right-leaning conspiracy "Clinton did everything but kill half of Arkansas" callers, but presumably that's more because he knows the show starts sounding like one of those extremist shortwave shows if he gives these people any credibility.

Along the same lines - WSB/Cox/Jones' Neal Boortz out of Atlanta gives the southern conservatives grief when he talks about legalizing pot. ;)

-OA
 
Re: Mike McConnell

Both McConnell and Boortz were getting the hate e-mail in droves over Shiavo, McConnell especially from the national audience.





> > Mike McConnell (WLW, "The Weekend")comes close, he can
> > skewer the extremists on both sides, sometimes by turning
> up
> > the heat slowly until the frog is cooked.
>
> Agreed, and the most interesting radio he does is when he
> "goes off the reservation" and gives a prominent Republican
> heat for something. You can almost hear the regular
> "conservative talk" listener squirm in his seat when
> McConnell does it.
>
> But he doesn't really do it all that often. He probably
> knows he can't get away with it a lot, given the traditional
> P1s for the format. Heck, even Rush will back away from
> right-leaning conspiracy "Clinton did everything but kill
> half of Arkansas" callers, but presumably that's more
> because he knows the show starts sounding like one of those
> extremist shortwave shows if he gives these people any
> credibility.
>
> Along the same lines - WSB/Cox/Jones' Neal Boortz out of
> Atlanta gives the southern conservatives grief when he talks
> about legalizing pot. ;)
>
> -OA
>
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Re: Lib Talk is a (insert PC emphamism here)format...

I hate Conserva-talk, have you ever listened to it??? There's so much mis-information being spread on air-america it makes me want to vomit!

Look, Conservative talk programs are all the same. No logic, no facts, no points. I can't wait till it tanks even more then it's allready tanking. Enough is enough with this right-wing BS.

With tongue in cheek, I altered three words in that post. Truth is that both groups are approaching the whole thing as a political statement and forgetting it's show biz. Al Franken is boooooring. Rush Limbaugh isn't. Quite frankly, I view both's extremist political views with distrust and disgust. But... given the choice of whom to listen to, I'll pick Limbaugh any day because he's a good radio personality first and a right-wing apoligist second.
 
Re: Lib Talk is a (insert PC emphamism here)format...

I agree with the entertainment factor; If you want entertainment listen to Mike Malloy on AAR/Evenings. Personally I think he's much more entertaining than Limbaugh.
Agree; Franken has very dry humor....



> I hate Conserva-talk, have you ever listened to it???
> There's so much mis-information being spread on air-america
> it makes me want to vomit!
>
> Look, Conservative talk programs are all the same. No logic,
> no facts, no points. I can't wait till it tanks even more
> then it's allready tanking. Enough is enough with this
> right-wing BS.
>
> With tongue in cheek, I altered three words in that post.
> Truth is that both groups are approaching the whole thing as
> a political statement and forgetting it's show biz. Al
> Franken is boooooring. Rush Limbaugh isn't. Quite frankly,
> I view both's extremist political views with distrust and
> disgust. But... given the choice of whom to listen to, I'll
> pick Limbaugh any day because he's a good radio personality
> first and a right-wing apoligist second.
>
 
> Merle on WJW? I don't remember that but I recall him on 1300
> during the "original" People Power days. Is he still doing
> some stuff on WELW?

Merle was News Director at WJW/850 in 1982 when they made the switch to News/Talk and they moved him back into the role of a talk show host. He stayed at WJW until the summer of '85 when much of the WJW format was migrated over to 3WE/1100. Merle (along with Joel Rose) left WJW in early '87 in a contract dispute and landed at WERE. They were at WERE for a year or two... got fired... and then landed at WHK for a while.

>
> I used to be a Die Hard "Dito Head" but the more I listened
> closely to "El Rushbo" and his unwillingness to give any
> form of credit to the other side turned me off! I'm saying
> "What If" the left came up with something that conservatives
> would agree with? El Rushbo would find something wrong with
> it! Convesly I've listened to some of the Air America stuff
> and many of those hosts are as non-supportive of the right
> as Rush & Hanity are to the left!

Agreed. Rush now saying that Deep Throat and the Washington Post were the villians of Watergate and not Nixon. The mantra seems to be "Bush Good. Everything Else Bad." (But with his flaws and predictability, Rush is still a much better entertainer than most of the other wannabees out there).

we are more devise
> then we've ever been.

Amen once again.... both sides are so hell-bent on shilling for the far edgesof their respective wings, they've forgotten that there are colors other than black and white.

>
> I'll take more of Mike Gallagher & Glenn Beck, entertaining,
> enlightening and I'm sure if the other side did or proposed
> something good, they'd give credit where credit is due!

Unfortunately, Glenn Beck has consumed too much right-wing Kool-Aid. For the past year he has also turned into a right-wing drone. I have a lot of respect for Michael Medved. He does at least have intellegent discussions with the "other side" on a regular basis. I also enjoyed Bob Henderson when he was on 3WE. Although unabashedly conserviative, he never hesitated to call either side on the carpet when they were up to something stupid.

I caught an hour of Ed Schultz today on WVLY in Wheeling, I
> wouldn't call him a left wing Rush clone, he was raking
> Howard Dean over the coals! Could you see Rush doing that to
> our president?

Schultz is not bad as an entertainer. He's not quite in Rush's league. Tends to be an apologist for the left, but there might be a flicker of independent thought coming through. Interesting how Rush has found "religion" in Bush. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't he really down on Bush for being "too liberal" and a Buchannan supporter in '00? One wonders.... if Hitler was a Republican.... oh never mind.....
 
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