Liberal Talk radio in NEPA?

[TheTiger]

Is there any chance WARM can flip to Liberal Talk? This afternoon, KB 1520 flipped from Oldies to this format so this means that this market would have a chance of such a format to arrive.

 

[scmidlapp]

> Is there any chance WARM can flip to Liberal Talk? This
> afternoon, KB 1520 flipped from Oldies to this format so
> this means that this market would have a chance of such a
> format to arrive.
>
And on what do you base this notion????
You would have to wait and see how well that format would do. Although I have a number of friends who would listen, that really means nothing. I really don't think it would do that well here. Although this is a predominantly Democratic area, most listeners are conservative.
As for WARM, I don't think the powers that be at Citadel really give a rat's gluteus what they have on there. Perhaps if someone takes the station off their hands (and that's a long shot) maybe then it would have a chance.

 

[NokmoTrue]

Liberal talk is foundering in major markets. It struggles everywhere. This market? Maybe as some kind of a write-off or something. It would be a miserable failure from Day One, and then things would get worse.

 

[carlvanorden]

> > Is there any chance WARM can flip to Liberal Talk? This> > afternoon, KB 1520 flipped from Oldies to this format so> > this means that this market would have a chance of such a> > format to arrive.> > > And on what do you base this notion????> You would have to wait and see how well that format would> do. Although I have a number of friends who would listen,> that really means nothing. I really don't think it would do> that well here. Although this is a predominantly Democratic> area, most listeners are conservative. > As for WARM, I don't think the powers that be at Citadel> really give a rat's gluteus what they have on there. > Perhaps if someone takes the station off their hands (and> that's a long shot) maybe then it would have a chance.> I don't know if it was filler but this afternoon WARM was playing oldies. As bad as the airchain is, the computer didn't sound really bad this time. With WICK the only comp at this time here, and the standards covered by Rt 81, maybe they are looking at a talk/oldies format.<P ID="signature">______________
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[yonkstur]

> Liberal talk is foundering in major markets. It struggles
> everywhere. This market? Maybe as some kind of a write-off
> or something. It would be a miserable failure from Day One,
> and then things would get worse.
>
The "Liberal" hosts who were in this market, Mario Cuomo,
Allen Colmes, Michael Jackson all had trouble getting
traction. Of the three, only Colmes built an audience
on the old WARD in the early 90s. I don't think its
political philosophy but more to do with entertainment.
A point of view by a Daniel Schorr on NPR is a bite size
quotient compared to a block of liberal views. It is
disturbing that the conservative press has made Liberal
a dirty word but that's an arguement for another site
and another day.
yonkstur

 

[bierkenstock]

BLINDED BY POLITICS

Possibly your view of talk radio is distorted by your own political preferences.

Progressive talk is not "floundering." Neither is it a run-away success. Currently progressive talk operates mostly as a network: a low-cost turn-key solution for marginal AM stations. As such, it does about as well as conservative Salem Radio or the various sports-talk networks (ESPN, Fox Sports or Sporting News). The talkers that do well in any market are long-established and on stations with good signals. These stations have local news and talk and cherry pick from syndicated talkers (they don't just plug an automation computer into a satellite dish to take a network feed). If you check the audience numbers for the various syndicated hosts, you have two big guns (Rush and Hannity) and a bunch of little pea-shooters. The pea-shooters' audiences are comparable to those of the progressive talkers. Progressive talk has not yet found its killer host - its Rush - but it is hardly floundering either.

Fact is progressive talk is a work in progress and it has not yet found its footing. It's not as bad as conservatives claim. It's not as good as liberals say. But both sides are hearing what they want to hear.

Oldies on WARM was a dumb idea. Music on AM is an idea whose time has passed. AM stations currently satellite delivered music formats will be looking at satellite delivered talk formats (if they are not already) - including progressive talk from Jones Radio and/or Air America Radio. It's not a question of if it will happen in this market; it's a question of when (and who).

In the meantime, progressive talkers broadcast online. Check them out. To start, I would recommend:
Stephanie Miller (9 am to 12 noon)
http://gundam100.liquidviewer.net/sms
Thom Hartmann (12 noon to 3 pm)
http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=airam/airam/wmlive/daily.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx
Randi Rhodes (3 pm to 7 pm)
http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=airam/airam/wmlive/livea.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx
Ed Schultz (3 pm to 6 pm)
http://ccri.eonstreams.com/ccri_oh_cincinnati_wcky1_am.asf
The Ed Schultz audio link also has Randi Rhodes from 6 pm to 10 pm.


> Liberal talk is foundering in major markets. It struggles
> everywhere. This market? Maybe as some kind of a write-off
> or something. It would be a miserable failure from Day One,
> and then things would get worse.
>

 

[NokmoTrue]

Re: BLINDED BY POLITICS

> Possibly your view of talk radio is distorted by your own
> political preferences.

Possibly. I think your laundry list of online progressive talk hosts reveals yours.

I meant "foundering". Foundering means to sink below the surface or to stumble and go lame. I didn't mean "floundering" though that fits, to act clumsily and in confusion.

Say what you will, I don't think "progressive" radio hasn't caught on because it hasn't found it's footing yet. I think it's because the majority of people don't buy the routine. Al Franken? Is that somebody you want on your side?

They haven't found their Rush yet because there can't be one. Rush has a bigger pool from which to pull his numbers. Al Franken I think is as popular as a lib host will ever get. And he's been on the air advertising for advertisers.

 

[bierkenstock]

Re: BLINDED BY POLITICS

>
> Possibly. I think your laundry list of online progressive
> talk hosts reveals yours.
>
The true sign of a political zealot blinded by ideology is he thinks others are. I post here because I am interested in radio. I posted about progressive talk because a bunch of people here were sounding off about the format and clearly did not know what they were talking about. Maybe you all should listen before you pass judgement. Not that that would be something you political droids would ever think to do.

Frankly, I await the demise of all political talk - and it's coming. The audience is declining. The audience is aging. The audience is dying off. And ad agencies are realizing that trying to sell angry pig-headed geezers is not worth the money.

 

[Aramondo]

Re: BLINDED BY POLITICS

> The true sign of a political zealot blinded by ideology is
> he thinks others are.

The irony is priceless.

> I post here because I am interested
> in radio. I posted about progressive talk because a bunch
> of people here were sounding off about the format and
> clearly did not know what they were talking about.

I think we're honored that you've chosen to shed some of the light of your wisdom on the ignorant masses.

> Maybe
> you all should listen before you pass judgement. Not that
> that would be something you political droids would ever
> think to do.

Name-calling. The chink in the armor.

>
> Frankly, I await the demise of all political talk - and it's
> coming.

Hold your breath and see how that works out for you.

> The audience is declining. The audience is aging.
> The audience is dying off. And ad agencies are realizing
> that trying to sell angry pig-headed geezers is not worth
> the money.

HAHAHAHA! That's a good one. Thanks!