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Limbaugh fees?
- Thread starter jimbo
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Rush & Hannity with their cramdowns and other mandates do not destroy opportunity for the little guy - they create it. It's a strong selling point to tell my affiliate prospects they won't have to deal with outside-show-inventory, makegoods or other mandatory BS when affiliating with my show. Granted, I'm not competing with Rush or Hannity's dayparts, but having an easy agreement makes my show even more attractive.
Jimme said:
As his competitor I can tell you he's still out there, being independently distributed by GAB (not sure to how many affiliates). Many of his longtime affiliates still have him on-air. I don't imagine you'll see too many new affiliates jumping onboard - PDs might wonder how much time (at age 77ish) he has left.
Speaking of Bruce Williams and national talkers you don't much from now, how about The Dolan's. Are they still out there?
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Don62
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No, Bruce Williams doesn't do the same kind of free-wheeling show you do, Ian. Neither does Clarke Howard nor Dave Ramsey.FTL_Ian said:
Jimme said:
It's a shame too, because it seems like Bruce Williams was just quickly driven off the air for no good reason. Sally Jessy Raphael's radio show (which, yes, still existed) went on surprise hiatus this past July and there's been no word since of it returning.
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Don62
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Bruce is one of the pioneers of syndicated talk radio. His evening show was popular in many markets.
Saddening to hear criticism, even if lightly-spouted or of his age, on a radio board.
Saddening to hear criticism, even if lightly-spouted or of his age, on a radio board.
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Don62
Guest
He's head and tails above you, as is Savage and a number of others.FTL_Ian said:
Just remember, someone else will soon come along in a few years and knock you off your precious spot that you brag about here.
Let's start hoping for that, right?
Should I then post "Put a Fork in Free Talk Live" when that happens to your little show?
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Don62
Guest
None of the other hosts - the ones you deride on these boards - come here and unabashadly promote their own show.
So I think "sticking a fork" would be appropro.
So I think "sticking a fork" would be appropro.
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Don62
Guest
So you have to be worried about who else is on the radio while your little show is on?FTL_Ian said:
Are you that insecure?
Are you actively calling stations and campaigning them to take other hosts off the air for you small show?
You're not any more special than the others, who have a lot more insight and years of experience that a young - i.e. less experienced - host like yourself doesn't have.
Hey, FTL, you put the great Bruce Williams down for his age.
There's room enough on the dial for many hosts.
Don62 said:
Why would I be worried?
Actually, I'm quite secure. My show is profitable and I have no debt.
I actively call stations and will occasionally inquire about the direction of their weeknight programming and suggest my show, of course! It's called affiliate relations and it's lots of fun. PDs are neat people and I enjoy getting to know them.
True; we all have the same plumbing.
I was tempted to respond to your argumentum ad antiquitatem with an equally ludicrous argumentum ad novitatem, but I'll hold back.
I challenge you to provide evidence of your assertion. I have nothing but respect for Mr. Williams. I only said his age will make it difficult to find new affiliates. Do you disagree?
Your statement would only be true if there was no FCC. Considering the FCC limits access to the airwaves, the truth is anyone who decides to make some room for themselves on the dial risks a home invasion from a band of violent thugs.
livingfruitvirus said:
At the risk of interrupting...
Sally's most recent show didn't "still exist", it was relatively new. She was off the air on radio for a LONG time after she left her original show for much greater fame/fortune wearing those glasses on the tube.
The most recent effort, if I remember right, grew out of a local show somewhere near her hometown - as she was dipping her toes back into radio after "Sally" ended on TV. Somewhere in there, they started doing syndication, though I don't get the idea she had a lot of affiliates. (My guess: they were aiming for a place in the world of "female-targeted talk radio", on stations like 1370 out of Baltimore, 107.1 in Minneapolis and 1070 out of Burlington VT.)
I was a BIG fan of Sally in her "NBC TalkNet" days, and even met her in person.
Oh, actually on-topic here:
Rush's show has been charging affiliates fees - even in the tiniest of markets - for a LONG time.
I'm aware of a small station in a non-rated metro not far from here, which was being charged as far back as 1994. It carried Rush as basically the 5th-or-so local affiliate - the show was easily heard there from the big market flamethrower down the highway.
If Premiere was charging that tiny station, they were charging EVERYONE.
At some point, they dropped the show. The rest of the station was another format, and as mentioned, listeners in that small city had no problem hearing Rush after the station dropped him.
Rush's show has been charging affiliates fees - even in the tiniest of markets - for a LONG time.
I'm aware of a small station in a non-rated metro not far from here, which was being charged as far back as 1994. It carried Rush as basically the 5th-or-so local affiliate - the show was easily heard there from the big market flamethrower down the highway.
If Premiere was charging that tiny station, they were charging EVERYONE.
At some point, they dropped the show. The rest of the station was another format, and as mentioned, listeners in that small city had no problem hearing Rush after the station dropped him.
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del_griffith
Guest
I know business is business is business, but a story.
In the 90's I was assisting a host get further syndication. I talked with 3 or 4 stations who stayed with Rush when the ABC talkradio thing fell apart. According to them, he would personally call and virtually plead with them to not drop his show. This was when he was at the 32 station mark or something like it. Very early in the syndication effort and when many ABC affiliates were probably dumping talk and returning to music of some sort.
Those 3 or 4 were more than unhappy when Rush started getting his footing and then dumped them for better or larger affiliates.
As I said, business is business is business, and I'm a sentimentalist at heart, but I too would be hopping mad if I stuck with Limbaugh when I was orignally going to dump him and go in another direction as a favor only to be dumped later when things got good for him.
In the 90's I was assisting a host get further syndication. I talked with 3 or 4 stations who stayed with Rush when the ABC talkradio thing fell apart. According to them, he would personally call and virtually plead with them to not drop his show. This was when he was at the 32 station mark or something like it. Very early in the syndication effort and when many ABC affiliates were probably dumping talk and returning to music of some sort.
Those 3 or 4 were more than unhappy when Rush started getting his footing and then dumped them for better or larger affiliates.
As I said, business is business is business, and I'm a sentimentalist at heart, but I too would be hopping mad if I stuck with Limbaugh when I was orignally going to dump him and go in another direction as a favor only to be dumped later when things got good for him.
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