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Listenable Al Franken and thoughts on Boston's Progressive Talk

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Al Franken Show is great today, 12/13. Maybe that's because someone else is hosting.

All due respect to the comedian, he works better late night, his slow motion talk not good for mid-day.

Station needs:

a)more power
b)less obnoxious commercials
c)a new mid-day show.

Why let RKO win by default?
 
> Al Franken Show is great today, 12/13. Maybe that's because
> someone else is hosting.
>
> All due respect to the comedian, he works better late night,
> his slow motion talk not good for mid-day.

exactly...

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WKOX-1200 is (finally) going to be able to build a new transmitter site in Newton and increase power.

Once that happens, however, WKOX may drop Air America and do something else with their much bigger signal. My guess is that since they are A Clear Channel Property, they will end up flipping to a format of mostly-conservative talk shows from sister company Premiere Networks, some of which (Rush Limbaugh, George Noory) will be moving from WRKO-680.
 
> WKOX-1200 is (finally) going to be able to build a new
> transmitter site in Newton and increase power.
>
> Once that happens, however, WKOX may drop Air America and do
> something else with their much bigger signal. My guess is
> that since they are A Clear Channel Property, they will end
> up flipping to a format of mostly-conservative talk shows
> from sister company Premiere Networks, some of which (Rush
> Limbaugh, George Noory) will be moving from WRKO-680.
<font color=green> I think Al will run for Senate/Mn. It's a nice and convienient way to bow out of the hard work of a daily broadcast grind.
 
> WKOX-1200 is (finally) going to be able to build a new
> transmitter site in Newton and increase power.
>
> Once that happens, however, WKOX may drop Air America and do
> something else with their much bigger signal. My guess is
> that since they are A Clear Channel Property, they will end
> up flipping to a format of mostly-conservative talk shows
> from sister company Premiere Networks, some of which (Rush
> Limbaugh, George Noory) will be moving from WRKO-680.
>
I know a knowledgeable person--a broadcaster but by no means a Clear Channel insider--who agrees with you. However, your track record of wildly inaccurate predictions all but guarantees that WKOX will stick with progressive talk after the power increase, which is unlikely to happen until the third or fourth quarter of 2007. By late 2007, progressive talk may or may not mean AirAmerica which may or may not still exist. I think that if AAR is gone, Jones or some other syndicator will add enough progressive talkers that stations that want to run the format will be able to do so more-or-less full-time.
 
> Al Franken Show is great today, 12/13. Maybe that's because
> someone else is hosting.
>
Can't you at least learn Rachel Maddow's name? In my opinion, she is the star of AAR and is probably flat out the brightest radio talk-show host--liberal or conservative--currently on the air and maybe the brightest radio talk-show host ever. She also has a pretty good sense of humor. In addition, she's a Rhodes Scholar (something that Randi Rhodes--despite her surname--is not and something that Al Franken--despite his Harvard degree--is not either). And when Rachel isn't in New York, she lives in Massachusetts--in Northampton, I believe. BTW, having Kent Jones on her show doesn't hurt either.
 
> I think Al will run for Senate/Mn. It's a nice and
> convienient way to bow out of the hard work of a daily
> broadcast grind.
>


I wish Al luck in anything that he does, and I think that he would make a great Senator. Slow delivery or not, I like the way Al plays actual airchecks of people saying things which they claim they didn't say. He had Neil Boortz (via phone) on and then asked him why he told CNN that he (Franken) turned down a chance to guest host his (Boortz') show because "Franken wanted to screen out all the bad calls" because "Liberals can't handle the truth". The exchange went something like this:

Franken: Neil, did you ever ask me to guest host your show?

Neil: No, I never did, Al.

Franken: So why did you say those things to CNN?

Neil: I didn't say that to CNN. They must have misquoted me in their transcript archive.

Franken: No, no, Neil. Here's the aircheck. (plays audio bite exactly as he described)

Franken: (after aircheck ends) So, why did you say that, Neil? You know you never asked me to guest host, much less all that business about screening.

Neil: Al, I'm telling you....CNN misquoted me on the transcript of the broadcast.

Franken: No, no Neil...we were not reading from a transcript. That's the actual aircheck. Here, I'll play it for you again (plays aircheck again).

Neil: Look (getting mad, voice raising) I didn't come here to play a game of gotcha with Al Franken. (a few more fumbled words, then hangs up the phone).

Franken: G'bye Neil! Don't lie next time!


This is what I will miss if he leaves radio. Everybody else just says something....anything. Al tends to trot out audio evidence of talkhackers caught in lies. I am not saying that he is perfect, and he can be overly smug sometimes and tediously dull with dry facts facts facts, but--in my opinion--he has among the most credibility of any daily radio talk host.
 
> but--in my
> opinion--he has among the most credibility of any daily
> radio talk host.

THANK YOU for clarifying this as YOUR OPINION. I disagree completely with you, but the fact that you can state it as opinion, rather than fact like many on this board, makes these posts easier to read... whether I'm agreeing or not.

Sorry, I just had to show appreciation. I hate when people say things like "Rush Limbaugh is the most intelligent talk host in radio." It may or may not be true, but the fact of that statement is that it would be an OPINION of the writer, not a fact.

Thanks... hopefully others would realize the importance of clarifying something as their opinion. It would get rid of a lot of the arguments that happen on this board over supposed "facts."
 
I am not saying
> that he is perfect, and he can be overly smug sometimes and
> tediously dull with dry facts facts facts, but--in my
> opinion--he has among the most credibility of any daily
> radio talk host.
>

http://frankenlies.com/truth/index.htm

The author of the above site offers a rebuttal to both of Franken's books
(link above refers to the latest one).
 
When Raccoon posts rhetoric it does tend to push the thread into the political arena.

If you want to see Facts vs. Opinion, look at the news headlines regarding
Rush Limbaugh's Oxycontin Scandal, and listen to him pontificate as if he's done nothing wrong in the Denny's parking lot. You've no doubt heard the soundbites of what Rush thinks should happen to "drug addicts".

I do find Boston's Progressive Talk refreshing because they air real soundbites of Dick Cheney saying one thing, then contradicting himself. It is more tangible than Howie Carr's gushing about "flip flop" or whatever HIS opinion is.

It is mind boggling that we have so much disagreement on things that are so logical. A soundbite of Cunningham crying because he got caught is not supposed to be as valid as some biased link Raccoon finds


> > but--in my
> > opinion--he has among the most credibility of any daily
> > radio talk host.
>
> THANK YOU for clarifying this as YOUR OPINION. I disagree
> completely with you, but the fact that you can state it as
> opinion, rather than fact like many on this board, makes
> these posts easier to read... whether I'm agreeing or not.
>
> Sorry, I just had to show appreciation. I hate when people
> say things like "Rush Limbaugh is the most intelligent talk
> host in radio." It may or may not be true, but the fact of
> that statement is that it would be an OPINION of the writer,
> not a fact.
>
> Thanks... hopefully others would realize the importance of
> clarifying something as their opinion. It would get rid of a
> lot of the arguments that happen on this board over supposed
> "facts."
>
 
> I am not saying
> > that he is perfect, and he can be overly smug sometimes
> and
> > tediously dull with dry facts facts facts, but--in my
> > opinion--he has among the most credibility of any daily
> > radio talk host.
> >
>
> http://frankenlies.com/truth/index.htm
>
> The author of the above site offers a rebuttal to both of
> Franken's books
> (link above refers to the latest one).
>

Strange site. He keeps claiming Liberal bias in the mainstream media, but then quotes all kinds of reports in the mainstream media that prove his points against some of Franken's views!

He makes some good points, but he nitpicks a lot, especially when he counters Franken's assertions that Bush knowingly lied about WMDs in Iraq with quotes from Democrats regarding Hussein. Most of the democrats that he quotes, however, simply say things like "Nuclear weapons in the hands of Hussein would be a threat to the United States" which is a far cry from claiming that you KNOW he has them (when you secretly DON'T know) and sending troops to war.

Anyway, thanks for the link. It seems (upon looking) that virtually every talk host has an anti-site like this so...one could say...there is no truth anywhere. Truth countered by lies or lies countered by truth? So much noise. Sophisticated operatives posing as bloggers, quoted by other bloggers who are also operatives. Such a mess.
 
> When Raccoon posts rhetoric it does tend to push the thread
> into the political arena.
>
> If you want to see Facts vs. Opinion, look at the news
> headlines regarding
> Rush Limbaugh's Oxycontin Scandal, and listen to him
> pontificate as if he's done nothing wrong in the Denny's
> parking lot. You've no doubt heard the soundbites of what
> Rush thinks should happen to "drug addicts".

But it doesn't help when people like you continue to take it there. Let it go. This is a RADIO board to discuss RADIO in Boston. Not to discuss Drug-Addicted Radio Host vs. "Comedian"-turned Radio Host.
 
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