SO, let's say "team x" has their radio flagship on 105.7 "WZYX" a station that broadcasts in FM Stereo and HD. an affiliate 93.9 "WCBA" is also an FM station that broadcasts in stereo and HD. My question is this, what kind of feed will WCBA receive and will a true FM Stereo/HD broadcast of the game be available to listen to on "WCBA"? seems pointless to me if you're an affiliate running a game to keep the Stereo pilot lit, if you're only getting a mono feed from the flagship or ESPN Radio or Westwood One. thanks!
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Live games in FM Stereo/HD
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In all liklihood, no station will be getting a stereo feed of the game, flagship or otherwise. Your major sports distributors (ESPN, WW1, etc) are entirely mono.
You don't do any harm by keeping the pilot on, though.
You don't do any harm by keeping the pilot on, though.
Cincinnati Bengals games used to be fed in stereo. Not sure if they still are. I listened to a game on headphones once on my local affiliate which was on FM, and could tell the crowd noise was being acquired through multiple mics. The configuration sheet from the network's satellite distributor designated 2 channels for their network.
PTBoardOp94 said:
Actually you can gain a substantial coverage result from turning off the stereo and running mono.
techie2 said:
Im pretty sure they still are.. I know when I board oped a station in 1999 both Cleveland Indians and Cleveland Browns where in Stereo off the Starguide even though we where an AM and aired them in mono.
Back in the days when KVIL was still carrying the Cowboys, they did everything in stereo. They took it to a pretty high level of quality too to the point that they configured crowd mics so that you could hear the stereo image of the whole field audio etc.
Sgeirk said:The Fox in Kansas City, I believe, still produces the Chiefs games. Although, two channels of crap is still crap.
They uplink a mono feed to the Chiefs Network affiliates. I could easily see them having a stereo broadcast for the local market, though. Considering the average equipment setup for a football game, you would by default already have everything for stereo...your big Mackie board does stereo, stereo ISDN is a no-brainer, and if you have multiple parabolic mics on the field, you're set. Bad football in stereo.
Up until this coming season the same folks have produced the Cowboy's game for years. They used to carry all of their gear in a van. A fellow had to drive the stuff to every game. They had a huge mixer and two big racks of gear. In the end you would find their stereo feed was just their parabolics panned left and right and a Shure stereo mic hanging out the press box window. Nothing special.
Now the team carries the gear and they have paired it down to a few smaller cases. The went from four parabs to two.
The Chiefs are using a Yamaha digital mixer of some sort.
I bet you would be surprised to know that FOX and CBS mix their four parabolics with a submixer in the booth and feed them in mono down to the truck. The only stereo mics are the crowds which is normally a stereo mic of some sort. There are timing issues when you try to run parabolic field mics in stereo. They can find themselves out of phase sometimes. A stereo mic solves this problem by not moving around during the game...
The NFL has been trying to get team radio to do away with their parabolic mics and use a TV feed to cut down on sideline clutter. Radio has been fighting this because the TV feed would be mono. Radio has argued that if they have to remove their parabolics then newspapers should have to share photographers. That has kept the radio guys on the field.
I have heard that ESPN radio has been doing some ballgames in stereo. The new XDS platform allows for this more easily than the Starguide system. With the XDS an encoder is an encoder and can be set for stereo pretty easily. With the Starguide they had to use two channels for stereo which was more of a problem.
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Now the team carries the gear and they have paired it down to a few smaller cases. The went from four parabs to two.
The Chiefs are using a Yamaha digital mixer of some sort.
I bet you would be surprised to know that FOX and CBS mix their four parabolics with a submixer in the booth and feed them in mono down to the truck. The only stereo mics are the crowds which is normally a stereo mic of some sort. There are timing issues when you try to run parabolic field mics in stereo. They can find themselves out of phase sometimes. A stereo mic solves this problem by not moving around during the game...
The NFL has been trying to get team radio to do away with their parabolic mics and use a TV feed to cut down on sideline clutter. Radio has been fighting this because the TV feed would be mono. Radio has argued that if they have to remove their parabolics then newspapers should have to share photographers. That has kept the radio guys on the field.
I have heard that ESPN radio has been doing some ballgames in stereo. The new XDS platform allows for this more easily than the Starguide system. With the XDS an encoder is an encoder and can be set for stereo pretty easily. With the Starguide they had to use two channels for stereo which was more of a problem.
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