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Local Morning TV Shows.

Getting ready for work this morning I decided to turn on the television to see what happened overnight and what the weather was going to be like for today. Instead I saw two local anchors talking with some professor at a local college about their Facebook account. You call this local news? ::) I call it filling time. What is ironic is that this station (WHAM TV) wasn't broadcasting on their regular channel (13) but instead over a cable channel the station is affiliated with (The CW network).
The point I'm trying to make is why do these morning TV programs even bother to air so-called news programs after 7am if all they are going to do is run the same news from the previous day, along with segments like the one I mentioned in this post? Personally I think it's a waste of time and personnel.
 
The Voice of Reason said:
Getting ready for work this morning I decided to turn on the television to see what happened overnight and what the weather was going to be like for today. Instead I saw two local anchors talking with some professor at a local college about their Facebook account. You call this local news? ::)
And you're just realizing that morning shows run features now because....? How long has it been since you watched local morning news? YOU ever try to fill two hours of content, especially when every station, every BUSINESS is trying to accomplish more tasks with fewer resources?

If you're going to damn local morning news for talk and "fluff", then you should also go after the network shows, too. Have you seen the fourth hour of the Today show lately? Or the third, or second? Count how many times they do segments on fashion, food safety, cooking, health, the latest fear scare over anything, exercise, author interviews...

Even the evening news on the big 3 mostly run the hard news of the day in their first blocks -- 7 minutes of hard news. After that, you might get a reader or VO of a hard news story, but the rest is analysis, feature, feel-good stuff...

I call it filling time. What is ironic is that this station (WHAM TV) wasn't broadcasting on their regular channel (13) but instead over a cable channel the station is affiliated with (The CW network).

Why is this ironic? Where is the irony? Doesn't it make more sense, than irony, to run a show such as this on a channel that is not a source of news, but more of entertainment? Besides, it reminds viewers that the CW is programmed by WHAM (I almost typed WOKR); it is cross-promotion of the WHAM product, the revenue is all theirs from the spots, etc.

The point I'm trying to make is why do these morning TV programs even bother to air so-called news programs after 7am if all they are going to do is run the same news from the previous day, along with segments like the one I mentioned in this post? Personally I think it's a waste of time and personnel.

Again, damn the morning network shows, too. But at least they do some hard news in the 7AM hour. Would you have the same criticism for some morning radio shows, even Beth & Chet on WHAM, who do what you would call "filler" with Lighten Up with Liz, or author interviews, or lotsa chatter between them and John Ditullio? How about the D & C, which has cut back staff, combined the local and business section for many weekdays, seems to be adding more white space lately (not as much as the Post-Standard), and uses suburban bloggers (NOT professional journalists) to help their coverage? Will you criticize their "Living" section, too, and call that a waste of time and personnel? How about WXXI, which does local news for four minutes at the top of the hour, and 2 minutes at the bottom in the morning, between 7 and 9 - the rest is nationally--produced content from NPR. And NPR does features on new media all the time. Do you criticize that?

And they run the same news from the previous day because all that happens overnight is spot news -- WHEN it happens. Plus, your average viewer tunes in for local TV news something like 3-4 times a week, if research memory serves me correctly. They can't help the un-average viewer who tunes in at 5, 6, 11, 5AM, 6AM, 12P...Yea, you're going to see repeats, because there's only so many people on a staff to produce so many different stories. And it's not all repeats. A good producer will look at stories coming up later that day, and write those, as well. And they do. News gathering is a complex system, not easily explained or described. When was the last time you tried to get past a gatekeeper of information, had a FOIL request denied by a secretive administration, confirmed a lead with two reliable sources, or pitched a story idea that is in the public interest, but doesn't "appeal to our demographic"? You wanna read a good book about it: News from Nowhere, a 1973 work that was one of the first (if not the first) to explain the system of electronic news gathering in the U.S. There are way more after that, but it explained the commercial model of broadcast journalism that has evolved in this country since the 1920s. And that's what we live with (for a little more time, at least).


As vapid as it may be, they did talk about Facebook because Facebook has finally reached a tipping point with adults -- for reasons too many to discuss here. It connects individuals and creates new communities. It's being studied by sociologists, marketers, communication researchers, new media researchers...

Whatever. You don't like it, don't watch it. I don't. I keep the radio on in the mornings. There is an off switch. You want everything to look like the Jim Lehrer News Hour? It's show business. You might as well damn 99% of television, then.

Pardon my rant, but unless you've worked it, run it, lived it (ESPECIALLY in these economic times)...Walk a mile in their shoes.

Whatever. I gotta get back to work.
 
Maybe then someone should produce a show like "Morning Latte" from Saturday Night Live that Will Ferrell and Cher O'Teri did.
 
Rob Jason said:
And you're just realizing that morning shows run features now because....? How long has it been since you watched local morning news? YOU ever try to fill two hours of content, especially when every station, every BUSINESS is trying to accomplish more tasks with fewer resources?

To answer your question, no I normally don't watch any local TV news, especially mornings. However because of the snow on the ground, I wanted to see what the weather was going to be since I had to be out-of-town on business. That is when I ran across the "Facebook feature" on WOKR ( I refuse to call it WHAM TV).
You don't think I'm aware that most newscasts are nothing but fill time and fluff pieces? The company I work for buys airtime from radio and TV and that is one of the numerous complaints we (the company) have about so-called broadcast journalism today.
My boss is looking at other options to get our company's message across to the general public and I don't blame him.
Now you can take a "chill-pill" and go back to work.
 
After 7am most local newscasts have ended. If your looking for weather your probably not going to find it unless you know when the local station does its cut-ins. Anyways if you live in Rochester and want weather why not just turn on Rnews. Its on every 10 minutes all day long. If you don't have cable or can't wait for the 10 minute then just go online. Any you obviously have the internet.
 
This is going WAY BACK, but I believe one of the reasons some local TV shows started doing morning news was to compete with radio. (That is when many radio stations had local news).

The idea now is to compliment the network morning shows ( Today, GMA, CBS Early Morning).

I have to agree with many posters that it's tough enough to fill five minutes worth of hard news let alone try to fill an entire hour. That is why there are so many features on morning shows.
 
It's interesting that Channel 4 in Buffalo produces a local morning show on sister-station WNLO that competes with the low-rated CBS morning show on Channel 4. CBS forced them to take the whole CBS morning show, cutting out an hour of their local show. WNLO is live and local in the morning until 9AM. It's a nice place to develop young talent and anchoring skills.
 
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