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Local newscasts at 9:00 PM

We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late" newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.
 
> We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
> of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.

It's common on Fox stations in the Central and Mountain time zones, where prime time starts at 7 PM. There might be a few UPN, WB, or independent stations as well that are running news at 9. It's probably not too common in the Eastern and Pacific time zones.

Phoenix has Fox O&O KSAZ/10 (1 hour) and indie KTVK/3 (30 min) with 9 PM news. Both stations also run news at 10 PM.

Even more rare is an 8 PM newscast. KTVK also has one of those.

IIRC, KCAL/9 in LA used to have a lot of odd-hour newscasts before being bought by Viacom. Do they still?
 
> We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
> of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.

That's because Chicago's on Central Time. A 9pm newscast in the Central Time Zone (and I think Mountain too) is equivalent to a 10pm newscast in the Eastern and Pacific zones (the whole 8/7 central thing). So 9pm newscasts are really not that uncommon in the Mid-West, I should imagine.

WGN's rival, WFLD "Fox Chicago", also has a 9pm newscast. Sinclair's WB18 in Milwaukee has its NewsCentral newscast at 9pm too.

Outside the Central and Mountain time zones, the number of stations doing 9pm newscasts are considerably less, as you already know. The ones off the top of my head are KRON in San Francisco and KCAL in LA; both are independent stations. (KCAL even has an 8pm newscast).<P ID="signature">______________
Derek
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.tvvancouver.cjb.net>TV.Vancouver</a>: Covering TV stations in Vancouver, BC</P>
 
> > We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> > newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
>
> > of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> > "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.
>
> It's common on Fox stations in the Central and Mountain time
> zones, where prime time starts at 7 PM. There might be a
> few UPN, WB, or independent stations as well that are
> running news at 9. It's probably not too common in the
> Eastern and Pacific time zones.
>
> Phoenix has Fox O&O KSAZ/10 (1 hour) and indie KTVK/3 (30
> min) with 9 PM news. Both stations also run news at 10 PM.
>
> Even more rare is an 8 PM newscast. KTVK also has one of
> those.
>
> IIRC, KCAL/9 in LA used to have a lot of odd-hour newscasts
> before being bought by Viacom. Do they still?
>
Fox 29 (KABB) in San Antonio has a 9pm hour-long newscast.
 
> It's common on Fox stations in the Central and Mountain time
> zones, where prime time starts at 7 PM. There might be a
> few UPN, WB, or independent stations as well that are
> running news at 9. It's probably not too common in the
> Eastern and Pacific time zones.
> Phoenix has Fox O&O KSAZ/10 (1 hour) and indie KTVK/3 (30
> min) with 9 PM news. Both stations also run news at 10 PM.
> Even more rare is an 8 PM newscast. KTVK also has one of
> those.
> IIRC, KCAL/9 in LA used to have a lot of odd-hour newscasts
> before being bought by Viacom. Do they still?
>
KCAL/9 still has three hours of local news from 8-11pm (including a 15 minute sports block at 10:45) -- EVERY night, including weekends. They've got weekday news at Noon (hour), 2pm (hour), 3pm (half-hour) and are adding a 4pm cast this fall. All this in addition to the newscasts (on the same set with different electronic backgrounds) for KCBS/2: 5am (two hrs), 11am (half); 5pm (hour), 6pm (half hour) and 11pm.

Talk about a newscast at an odd time though: KCOP/13 Los Angeles, a Fox-owned UPN affiliate, has its late news at 11pm -- up against "The Big Three." It's primarily aimed at a younger audience, and has most of co-owned KTTV/11's newsbabes running amuck on it.
 
> We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
> of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.
>

We produce a 9pm newscast for the WB station here in town. The 9p news in the Central timezone is equal to the 10p news in the Eastern timezone.

-A<P ID="signature">______________

</P>
 
> KCAL/9 still has three hours of local news from 8-11pm
> (including a 15 minute sports block at 10:45) -- EVERY
> night, including weekends. They've got weekday news at Noon
> (hour), 2pm (hour), 3pm (half-hour) and are adding a 4pm
> cast this fall. All this in addition to the newscasts (on
> the same set with different electronic backgrounds) for
> KCBS/2: 5am (two hrs), 11am (half); 5pm (hour), 6pm (half
> hour) and 11pm.

Just so you know, KCBS and KCAL have separate sets (I think they are in the same studio, though). Sorry, but that statement was bothering me for some odd reason... I'd imagine that when KCBS/KCAL leave Columbia Square in 2007, the two stations will have separate studios and separate control rooms, so theoretically they could both broadcast different live programming at the same time.

The weekend newscasts on KCAL used to be limited to an hour at 9:00pm, but were expanded this year to span from 8:00pm to 11:00pm. Are Glen Walker and Leyna Nguyen anchoring all three hours, or did they bring on another team to give them a break?
 
NECN or New England Cable News (with studios in Newton, MA), has a 9 PM newscast (weeknights) but I don't know if that counts since it's cable and not broadcast.
 
> We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
> of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.

As has been pointed out, it is very common for non-big three stations in the Central Time Zone to have their news at 9:00. Since network programming airs one hour earlier in that zone, a 9:00 newscast is up against the same shows as a 10:00 newscast would be in Eastern/Pacific.

Since the Mountain Time Zone tends to follow the Central times, 9:00 newscasts aren't all that uncommon there either.

I would suggest that if you never heard of all these newscasts earlier than 9:00, you were lacking in the above knowledge. My guess is that you have lived your entire life in either the Eastern or Pacific Time Zone?

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> Even more rare is an 8 PM newscast. KTVK also has one of
> those.
---------
I believe KTTV had an 8 PM newscast for awhile in the 80s, around the time the Fox network was launched. Not only are 8 PM newscasts rare, but 7 PM newscasts on stations with no 6 PM news as well. WNYW New York had Fox News at Seven for a few years, anchored by Jack Cafferty. Seems to me WPIX's Action News aired at 7:30 for many years as well. Note that some stations have 7 PM news that also have 6 PM news, such as WKYC Cleveland and WXYZ Detroit.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by mjlarochelle on 06/23/05 02:27 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> We all know that Chicago's WGN Channel 9 airs its "late"
> newscast at 9:00 PM local time. So I was wondering, do any
> of your local stations have a 9 PM newscast? The earliest
> "late" news I know of is at 10 PM.

It is a time zone thing.
Central time zone's 9PM = Eastern time zone's 10PM.
 
Slightly off-topic, but not completely unrelated to the original post... In terms of oddly-timed newscasts, I recall CBS affiliate WDJT-TV (Channel 58) having a 6:30 p.m. newscast (CST) in Milwaukee when they began their news operation in 1996. This is a time when affiliates generally have syndicated stuff like "Wheel of Fortune" and "Entertainment Tonight" to lead into prime time. WDJT moved the ambitious newscast to 6 eventually and then halted it all together. (The 5 and 10 p.m. newscasts, in addition to the later-implemented morning news, continue to this day.)
 
> Just so you know, KCBS and KCAL have separate sets (I think
> they are in the same studio, though). Sorry, but that
> statement was bothering me for some odd reason... I'd
> imagine that when KCBS/KCAL leave Columbia Square in 2007,
> the two stations will have separate studios and separate
> control rooms, so theoretically they could both broadcast
> different live programming at the same time.

Unless Fybush had bad info, or something changed since he visited them, <a target="_blank" href=http://www.fybush.com/sites/2004/site-041210.html>they're on the same set</a>. The KCAL/KCBS set is about a quarter of the way down the page.

I also highly doubt that they'd spend the money on seperate studios for each of the stations. Case in point, in Chicago, NBC runs live news for both WMAQ and WSNS from the same studio @ 10pm. In other words, no need for seperate studios.

-A<P ID="signature">______________

</P>
 
> Slightly off-topic, but not completely unrelated to the
> original post... In terms of oddly-timed newscasts, I recall
> CBS affiliate WDJT-TV (Channel 58) having a 6:30 p.m.
> newscast (CST) in Milwaukee when they began their news
> operation in 1996. This is a time when affiliates generally
> have syndicated stuff like "Wheel of Fortune" and
> "Entertainment Tonight" to lead into prime time. WDJT moved
> the ambitious newscast to 6 eventually and then halted it
> all together. (The 5 and 10 p.m. newscasts, in addition to
> the later-implemented morning news, continue to this day.)
>

Didn't the 6:30 move to WMLW for a bit as a rebroadcast of the CBS 58 News @ 5?

-A<P ID="signature">______________

</P>
 
> > Just so you know, KCBS and KCAL have separate sets (I
> think
> > they are in the same studio, though). Sorry, but that
> > statement was bothering me for some odd reason... I'd
> > imagine that when KCBS/KCAL leave Columbia Square in 2007,
>
> > the two stations will have separate studios and separate
> > control rooms, so theoretically they could both broadcast
> > different live programming at the same time.
>
> Unless Fybush had bad info, or something changed since he
> visited them, they're on the same set. The KCAL/KCBS set is
> about a quarter of the way down the page.
>

They do indeed have seperate sets pieces (backgrounds and desks) for each station branded with that station's logo, though they are housed in the same studio (much like your mention of WMAQ/WSNS below.

When KCAL moved into Columbia Square, KCBS auctioned their old set on EBAY (it eventually went to WISE-33-Fort Wayne, Indiana), tore out the studio (the broadcast from the newsroom for several weeks) and had the two new sets installed.

From an archive copy of http://www.newsblues.com dated 1/21/2003:

MERGED

El Lay's KCAL-9 and KCBS-2 completed the merger of their news operations Monday by unveiling their new sets in the same studio at the storied Columbia Square on Hollywood's Sunset Boulevard.


> I also highly doubt that they'd spend the money on seperate
> studios for each of the stations. Case in point, in
> Chicago, NBC runs live news for both WMAQ and WSNS from the
> same studio @ 10pm. In other words, no need for seperate
> studios.
>
> -A
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by TimInHouston on 06/23/05 04:21 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Yes, I have lived my entire life on the east coast. My question is mainly focusing on the three major networks - ABC, NBC, and CBS. It just seems more common for there to be 11 PM newscasts, which would translate to 10 PM newscasts in CST, since this is when primetime programming would end. The primetime shows would be cut off if stations aired a 9 o'clock newscast. I didn't think there were that many 10 PM EST newscasts, which is why I thought there wouldn't be too many 9 PM CST newscasts, either. I always thought 11:00 news has been the standard.
 
> > Slightly off-topic, but not completely unrelated to the
> > original post... In terms of oddly-timed newscasts, I
> recall
> > CBS affiliate WDJT-TV (Channel 58) having a 6:30 p.m.
> > newscast (CST) in Milwaukee when they began their news
> > operation in 1996. This is a time when affiliates
> generally
> > have syndicated stuff like "Wheel of Fortune" and
> > "Entertainment Tonight" to lead into prime time. WDJT
> moved
> > the ambitious newscast to 6 eventually and then halted it
> > all together. (The 5 and 10 p.m. newscasts, in addition to
>
> > the later-implemented morning news, continue to this day.)
>
> >
>
> Didn't the 6:30 move to WMLW for a bit as a rebroadcast of
> the CBS 58 News @ 5?
>
> -A

Don't forget, too, that WSMV/4 and WTVF/5 Nashville, and
KTRK/13 Houston, do an hour of local news 6-7 (Central).
>
 
Re: Local newscasts at 7:00 PM

> I believe KTTV had an 8 PM newscast for awhile in the 80s,
> around the time the Fox network was launched. Not only are
> 8 PM newscasts rare, but 7 PM newscasts on stations with no
> 6 PM news as well. WNYW New York had Fox News at Seven for
> a few years, anchored by Jack Cafferty. Seems to me WPIX's
> Action News aired at 7:30 for many years as well. Note that
> some stations have 7 PM news that also have 6 PM news, such
> as WKYC Cleveland and WXYZ Detroit.

WIS in Columbia, SC has newscasts at 5, 6 *and* 7pm. In fact, I think they launched their 7pm newscast before the other two, and for many years was the only station (or one of the few) on the East Coast to have a 7pm newscast.<P ID="signature">______________
Derek
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.tvvancouver.cjb.net>TV.Vancouver</a>: Covering TV stations in Vancouver, BC</P>
 
Re: Local newscasts at 7:00 PM

> WIS in Columbia, SC has newscasts at 5, 6 *and* 7pm. In
> fact, I think they launched their 7pm newscast before the
> other two, and for many years was the only station (or one
> of the few) on the East Coast to have a 7pm newscast.
>
Traditionally, it is THE number-one program in Columbia.
However, it does have competition now; CBS affiliate
WLTX/19 also does a 7 PM newscast (ABC affiliate WOLO/25
shows Wheel Of Fortune). In Charleston, ABC affiliate
WCIV/4 has a 7 PM local news as well; for many years,
however, WCSC/5 (CBS) did its local news at 6:30 and
showed CBS News at 7.

Two NBC stations that come to mind: WXIA/11 Atlanta and
WAVE/3 Louisville. However, I think we went through all
this a few months ago, so I won't belabor the subject.
 
> Yes, I have lived my entire life on the east coast. My
> question is mainly focusing on the three major networks -
> ABC, NBC, and CBS. It just seems more common for there to be
> 11 PM newscasts, which would translate to 10 PM newscasts in
> CST, since this is when primetime programming would end. The
> primetime shows would be cut off if stations aired a 9
> o'clock newscast. I didn't think there were that many 10 PM
> EST newscasts, which is why I thought there wouldn't be too
> many 9 PM CST newscasts, either. I always thought 11:00 news
> has been the standard.
>

That's because all three of those networks have always broadcast three hours of primtime network programming dating back to the 60s (maybe the 50s?). When FOX signed on, they only broadcast two hours of primetime network programming over their stations, leaving the 10:00/9:00 hour to the affiliates.

Some, KTTV, WNYW, KTVU, et al already had established news programming in the 10:00/9:00 hour so there was no disruption when they signed on with (or were bought by) Fox. Most other stations simply filled the hour with off-network repeats (some still do to this day). I believe FOX put out a notice to its affiliates in the mid-90s that it wanted them to begin producing newscasts. It was during this period that a lot of newscasts began to pop-up (either as independent ventures or produced by an affiliate of one of the big 3. Nashville's WZTV-17 newscast was originally produced by WKRN-2-ABC)

The only station that I know of that produces a 10:00 (pacific) newscast and is affiliated with one of the big 3 is KOVR-13-Sacramento, CA. But they run primetime from 7:00 - 10:00pm instead of 8:00 - 11:00 (pst).
 
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