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Local Talk Hosts Attack Localism

I thought I had heard everything until I heard this...

A couple of local talk hosts, not syndicated to any other market, attack the possibility that more "localism" might be required of local radio stations!

My first thought was, have these guys drunk the Kool-Aid down so thoroughly that they would attack their own self-interest and oppose the very thing they do for a living in the name of supporting ideology?

Have they not noticed the ax that swung for so many of their talk radio colleagues in so many markets, since consolidation and syndication became the norm?

If they are so worked up against "localism", perhaps they should demonstrate fidelity to their "principles" and quit their jobs so their employers can put in more syndicated talk.
 
On their show, do they discuss local issues more than national ones? Maybe they are trying to move their show more towards discussing national topics rather than local yokel issues. I know that one of the news/talkers in my town is live and local. Their shows are far more interesting, generally, when they are discussing national issues than when discussing local stuff, in my opinion (I usually tuneout when they are doing a local yokel topic generally as it's boring).

The plus to a local show discussing national issues over a syndicated show discussing national issues is that you have a far better chance of getting on the air to make a comment with the local yokel show than with one of the big shot national shows where the callers have to hang on for many times over an hour waiting to get their 15-30 second comment on. Usually, at least in my town, you get more than 15-30 seconds and the host will actually carry on a conversation with you making it a dialogue where interesting points can get made. A far more interesting show than when only the host gets to make his/her points and the very few lucky callers get to say a sentence.
 
They were actually "warning" their listeners about the Obama administration trying to "force" localism (in other words, require the stations to program as if they were based in X-Town and not wherever it is syndication comes from) and "take away" their favorite syndicated shows (for more local shows, of course). Syndication good, local shows bad was the underlying message -- striking me as incredibly contradictory since they themselves are local hosts.

I just got a funny image in my mind -- hundreds of talk radio kool-aid drinkers marching in front of their local radio station with signs demanding "No More Localism!" and "Keep Talk Radio Out of Town!" That last placard would no doubt confuse
passers-by. Of course there would be no coverage because the radio station, defying those pinkos screaming about localism, has no local news staff... :D

There's a very (unintentionally) funny article attacking localism at the link below.

http://www.rwonline.com/article/71028

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/05/freedom-to-speak/
 
Wouldn't "localism rules" guarantee lifetime employment to this particular host? Uh...no. If we're going to put this hosts fate into "local advisory boards" consisting of professional political activists and people with too much time on their hands, the answer is no. The "advisory board" may not like him and demand his removal. They might demand that he spend all of his time on local politics (and unless you're in Chicago or Washington, there's nothing more boring). If the rest of the station's programming is succcessful syndicated shows, and the demand is to hire a bunch of local yokels to babble on about the street department, the ratings go away and so does the revenue. Not to mention the cost of staffing these stations with warm bodies 24/7 (you guys are all going to apply for those make-work, overnight babysitting jobs, right?), yes, that host could lose that show. If this host tends to favor less regulation and free speech on the airwaves, wouldn't you all be calling him a hypocrite if he advocated enforced "localism" because theoretically it might

benefit him?
 
Wouldn't "localism rules" guarantee lifetime employment to this particular host? Uh...no.

If the rest of the station's programming is succcessful syndicated shows, and the demand is to hire a bunch of local yokels to babble on about the street department, the ratings go away and so does the revenue.

Another example of repeating a talking point that has little to do with what a lot of local talk radio was like in the pre-Rush, pre-consolidation era.

There were many good markets with hot talk shows and stations (Miami, Tampa, Phoenix to name a few)... and many bad ones with sleepy formats for which Rush's style was actually an improvement (Rochester, Baltimore) ... but for which Rush and the development of the Rush-clone philosophy precluded the development of many other styles of talk, including the one represented in the movie and play "Talk Radio" by the character of Barry Champlain (an amalgam of several real-life hosts, all pre-Rush).

It wasn't all about the potholes... and it wouldn't be today, no matter how many times Rush repeats that one slander against the local talk hosts he and corporate consolidation eliminated.

Not to mention the cost of staffing these stations with warm bodies 24/7 (you guys are all going to apply for those make-work, overnight babysitting jobs, right?), yes, that host could lose that show.

Not a few hosts came from the ranks of the overnight board ops over the years... and I can remember many of the local off-hour shows that used to air before syndicators strong-armed and cramdowned reruns and third-rate shows into non-drive times... Some good ones, some mediocre ones, but all showcasing previously unheard talent. Some of those shows helped lower the demos of talk formats. One example: the late 80s - early 90s "FLA Lounge" on Tampa's WFLA, hosted by a host later known to Los Angeles as "Harrison." In Miami, WIOD's off-hours local shows of the late 80's - early 90's were often gems as well.

Sometimes genius can come from something derided as a "make work" initiative -- take, for example, those guides written during the Depression by out of work writers on the taxpayers' dime that have given future generations an insight into a lost world. Mandatory local staffing after 7 P.M. would only be lemons if corporate types pouted and decided to let them be lemons. Make lemonade. Let the babysitters host their own shows. Let them use the time as a laboratory to develop product that will bring in younger demos. That kind of experimentation has to come from below, not from above... as Bonneville learned with their centralized Nightside project.

As far as the aforementioned host on the station's only local daypart, he's more likely to lose his job to his owners' desire to further cut costs and add more syndication. A high-profile local host with years invested in a community is hard for any sort of activism to kill off... even when he puts his foot in his mouth bigtime. (See the Bob Lonsberry - orangutan controversy.) Localism initiatives would set the floor on that. It doesn't make sense that a measure that you admit would increase demand for local talent would somehow make his gig less valuable.

If this host tends to favor less regulation and free speech on the airwaves, wouldn't you all be calling him a hypocrite if he advocated enforced "localism" because theoretically it might benefit him?

Not really... I'd say it was a case of waking up and smelling the coffee... considering all the conservative local hosts who've been driven out of their jobs by syndication. The reason I pointed out that "principle" would require the host to quit his job is just the point... no ideology should be a suicide pact. The ideology which most of these hosts preach has called on people who hand out the paychecks to act in their own self-interest... while the people who received the paychecks were supposed to accept a withering job market, pay cuts, wage stagnation and the like as the price of sustaining our market-based society... in other words, to behave altruistically toward their employers.
 
Well they are idiots. I'm guessing they don't mind being out of work. This is why OTA radio is dying. If they can't put two and two together then they deserved to be out of work.

Rush and his clones dominated the airways for twenty years. No wonder OTA radio is collapsing. With Citidel/ABC Radio and Westwood One stock are delisted and might head to bankruptcy, people might be tired hearing the same thing over and over and over.

Do I want Conservative Radio to go away no. What will Stephanie Miller do for an hour of her show. More Fart and D**k jokes maybe?

If its get ad dollars and listeners then keep it on the air.
 
willcail said:
Do I want Conservative Radio to go away no. What will Stephanie Miller do for an hour of her show. More Fart and D**k jokes maybe?

If its get ad dollars and listeners then keep it on the air.
That's all her show is, pretty much, attacking other hosts- most of them who are her superiors.

Nothing of substance, just another comedian.

How many affiliates does she have? A dozen?
 
Talkers magazine put Stephanie's audience at 1.5 million plus. Don, those dozen stations must be very powerful. :D
 
willcail said:
Well they are idiots. I'm guessing they don't mind being out of work. This is why OTA radio is dying. If they can't put two and two together then they deserved to be out of work.

Rush and his clones dominated the airways for twenty years. No wonder OTA radio is collapsing. With Citidel/ABC Radio and Westwood One stock are delisted and might head to bankruptcy, people might be tired hearing the same thing over and over and over.

Do I want Conservative Radio to go away no. What will Stephanie Miller do for an hour of her show. More Fart and D**k jokes maybe?

If its get ad dollars and listeners then keep it on the air.


Radio listening is up in the latest Radar from Arbitron. There have been other reports I've seen saying listening to OTA radio is up across the demos. Even 90% of 12-24's say they listen and use radio as their prime source for hearing new music. Yes, they listen to i-Pods and the internet, but they still use radio.

With 93% or so of Americans still depending on radio on weekly basis, your rhetoric doesn't match reality.
 
One Who Knows,

Well I doubt that. Since there are about 60 million plus MP3 players out there. Well it isn't hard to make fun of conservative talkers who pulls facts out of their arses. Since facts have a liberal bias.
 
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