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Not much info available... various rumours floating... nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
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> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
>
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> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
>
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braddacripple
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> > Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> >
> If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
>
This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a lot of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format - kinda like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still think they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM, WYSP a chance for afternoons.
> > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> >
> If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
>
This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a lot of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format - kinda like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still think they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM, WYSP a chance for afternoons.
> > > Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> > > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> > >
> > If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
> >
> This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These
> shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a lot
> of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format - kinda
> like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still think
> they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM,
> WYSP a chance for afternoons.
>
London not popular in SF?? He was the only reason I listened. I can't believe they would keep that GARBAGE Show John and Jeff, but get rid of LONDON!<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Radioape99 on 04/10/06 06:09 PM.</FONT></P>
> > > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> > >
> > If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
> >
> This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These
> shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a lot
> of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format - kinda
> like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still think
> they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM,
> WYSP a chance for afternoons.
>
London not popular in SF?? He was the only reason I listened. I can't believe they would keep that GARBAGE Show John and Jeff, but get rid of LONDON!<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Radioape99 on 04/10/06 06:09 PM.</FONT></P>
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allisonmarie
Guest
> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
>
How long before Free-FM is out at 106.9FM???? Face it the format is a waste of a premium FM signal! He sure didn't last long! How long before CBS hires a new PD for the station? Too much talk in the city by the bay already! Its time for a new broom to sweep clean the mess that is 106.9! CHR-pop anyone??????
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
>
How long before Free-FM is out at 106.9FM???? Face it the format is a waste of a premium FM signal! He sure didn't last long! How long before CBS hires a new PD for the station? Too much talk in the city by the bay already! Its time for a new broom to sweep clean the mess that is 106.9! CHR-pop anyone??????
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allisonmarie
Guest
> > > > Not much info available... various rumours floating...
>
> > > > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> > > >
> > > If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
> > >
> > This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These
> > shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a
> lot
> > of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format - kinda
>
> > like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still
> think
> > they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM,
> > WYSP a chance for afternoons.
> >
>
> London not popular in SF?? He was the only reason I
> listened. I can't believe they would keep that GARBAGE Show
> John and Jeff, but get rid of LONDON!
>
You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM! Ken whats his name isn't so hot a GM/Program Director as he's cooked up to be! The proof is on-air at 106.9!
>
> > > > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> > > >
> > > If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
> > >
> > This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These
> > shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a
> lot
> > of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format - kinda
>
> > like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still
> think
> > they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM,
> > WYSP a chance for afternoons.
> >
>
> London not popular in SF?? He was the only reason I
> listened. I can't believe they would keep that GARBAGE Show
> John and Jeff, but get rid of LONDON!
>
You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM! Ken whats his name isn't so hot a GM/Program Director as he's cooked up to be! The proof is on-air at 106.9!
> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
The question is ... did he jump or was he pushed?
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
The question is ... did he jump or was he pushed?
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DyingMedium
Guest
Please...You don't even know what you're talking about. Ken's not the PD. And they were hamstrung out of the gate with Adam Corolla....
I do think they've made mistakes, but a lot of the direction comes out of New York. But, one has to think London and Darrian were Ken's call.
I thought London was great, too. However, he has a big reputation for being quite difficult to manage. Some say he feeds off of the conflict and does worse when he actually gets along with management.
Saw some rumor in All Access about some guy coming to do mornings...
>
> You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM! Ken
> whats his name isn't so hot a GM/Program Director as he's
> cooked up to be! The proof is on-air at 106.9!
>
I do think they've made mistakes, but a lot of the direction comes out of New York. But, one has to think London and Darrian were Ken's call.
I thought London was great, too. However, he has a big reputation for being quite difficult to manage. Some say he feeds off of the conflict and does worse when he actually gets along with management.
Saw some rumor in All Access about some guy coming to do mornings...
>
> You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM! Ken
> whats his name isn't so hot a GM/Program Director as he's
> cooked up to be! The proof is on-air at 106.9!
>
> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
From allaccess.com
CBS Talk KIFR (106.9 FREE FM)/SAN FRANCISCO afternoon host JOHN LONDON was fired FRIDAY (4/7) along with producer DENNIS CRUZ.
CRUZ tells ALL ACCESS that the hammer was dropped after an on-air incident THURSDAY involving LONDON's reponse to comments by syndicated FREE FM host PENN JILLETTE. LONDON objected to JILLETTE's negative comments about MOTHER TERESA ("a bad, bad person") and parodied JILLETTE's free-speech stance by challenging JILLETTE's belief that words don't hurt people and people should be able to say what they want with an offer of cash for someone to kill JILLETTE. After someone in the studio asked about torture, LONDON said "come on now, that would be in bad taste." The show was replaced by a rerun FRIDAY and the show was terminated.
KIFR's only official response for ALL ACCESS to the story is the statement "JOHN LONDON is no longer with the station." On MONDAY, CLEAR CHANNEL Talk KTLK-A/LOS ANGELES weekender JOHNNY WENDELL was handling the afternoon slot on KIFR.
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
From allaccess.com
CBS Talk KIFR (106.9 FREE FM)/SAN FRANCISCO afternoon host JOHN LONDON was fired FRIDAY (4/7) along with producer DENNIS CRUZ.
CRUZ tells ALL ACCESS that the hammer was dropped after an on-air incident THURSDAY involving LONDON's reponse to comments by syndicated FREE FM host PENN JILLETTE. LONDON objected to JILLETTE's negative comments about MOTHER TERESA ("a bad, bad person") and parodied JILLETTE's free-speech stance by challenging JILLETTE's belief that words don't hurt people and people should be able to say what they want with an offer of cash for someone to kill JILLETTE. After someone in the studio asked about torture, LONDON said "come on now, that would be in bad taste." The show was replaced by a rerun FRIDAY and the show was terminated.
KIFR's only official response for ALL ACCESS to the story is the statement "JOHN LONDON is no longer with the station." On MONDAY, CLEAR CHANNEL Talk KTLK-A/LOS ANGELES weekender JOHNNY WENDELL was handling the afternoon slot on KIFR.
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KMRichards
Guest
> How long before Free-FM is out at 106.9FM???? Face it the
> format is a waste of a premium FM signal! He sure didn't
> last long! How long before CBS hires a new PD for the
> station? Too much talk in the city by the bay already! Its
> time for a new broom to sweep clean the mess that is 106.9!
> CHR-pop anyone??????
Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business long enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b) have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get cancelled less than a year after launch.<P ID="signature">______________
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> format is a waste of a premium FM signal! He sure didn't
> last long! How long before CBS hires a new PD for the
> station? Too much talk in the city by the bay already! Its
> time for a new broom to sweep clean the mess that is 106.9!
> CHR-pop anyone??????
Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business long enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b) have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get cancelled less than a year after launch.<P ID="signature">______________
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braddacripple
Guest
> > How long before Free-FM is out at 106.9FM???? Face it the
> > format is a waste of a premium FM signal! He sure didn't
> > last long! How long before CBS hires a new PD for the
> > station? Too much talk in the city by the bay already! Its
>
> > time for a new broom to sweep clean the mess that is
> 106.9!
> > CHR-pop anyone??????
>
> Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business long
> enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b)
> have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> cancelled less than a year after launch.
>
well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
> > format is a waste of a premium FM signal! He sure didn't
> > last long! How long before CBS hires a new PD for the
> > station? Too much talk in the city by the bay already! Its
>
> > time for a new broom to sweep clean the mess that is
> 106.9!
> > CHR-pop anyone??????
>
> Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business long
> enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b)
> have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> cancelled less than a year after launch.
>
well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
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KMRichards
Guest
> > Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business
> long
> > enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b)
> > have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> > cancelled less than a year after launch.
> >
> well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
I said "formats", not individual air personalities.
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> long
> > enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b)
> > have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> > cancelled less than a year after launch.
> >
> well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
I said "formats", not individual air personalities.
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> > > > > Not much info available... various rumours
> floating...
> >
> > > > > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> > > > >
> > > > If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
> > > >
> > > This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These
> > > shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a
>
> > lot
> > > of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format -
> kinda
> >
> > > like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still
> > think
> > > they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM,
>
> > > WYSP a chance for afternoons.
> > >
> >
> > London not popular in SF?? He was the only reason I
> > listened. I can't believe they would keep that GARBAGE
> Show
> > John and Jeff, but get rid of LONDON!
> >
> You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM! Ken
> whats his name isn't so hot a GM/Program Director as he's
> cooked up to be! The proof is on-air at 106.9!
>
That's Ol Ken Kohl, the merry old sole. The man who gave us the superb
KNEW. Sounds like Free is headed to syndication land. London and
Darian both had track records in SF, but the shows had no content.
I got tired of hearing that if you didn't like the station it
was to smart for you. Please! I guess the subtlty of Londons
"Phone Bitch" character requires an IQ in the 200's, Oh wait That .200 !
But as is always the case, Kohl has been promoted to VP of Newstalk for
SF by CBS for the great job he's done. No wonder Katie Couric got hired
to anchor the CBS evening news.
> floating...
> >
> > > > > nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> > > > >
> > > > If this is true. dose this mean the end of Free Fm?
> > > >
> > > This isn't the end of Free FM - it just started. These
> > > shows just weren't popular in SF. Takes some time and a
>
> > lot
> > > of fine tuning when you first start a "new" format -
> kinda
> >
> > > like tweaking the playlist. Give it some time. I still
> > think
> > > they should give Kidd Chris from Philadelphia's Free FM,
>
> > > WYSP a chance for afternoons.
> > >
> >
> > London not popular in SF?? He was the only reason I
> > listened. I can't believe they would keep that GARBAGE
> Show
> > John and Jeff, but get rid of LONDON!
> >
> You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM! Ken
> whats his name isn't so hot a GM/Program Director as he's
> cooked up to be! The proof is on-air at 106.9!
>
That's Ol Ken Kohl, the merry old sole. The man who gave us the superb
KNEW. Sounds like Free is headed to syndication land. London and
Darian both had track records in SF, but the shows had no content.
I got tired of hearing that if you didn't like the station it
was to smart for you. Please! I guess the subtlty of Londons
"Phone Bitch" character requires an IQ in the 200's, Oh wait That .200 !
But as is always the case, Kohl has been promoted to VP of Newstalk for
SF by CBS for the great job he's done. No wonder Katie Couric got hired
to anchor the CBS evening news.
> > > Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business
> > long
> > > enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b)
>
> > > have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> > > cancelled less than a year after launch.
> > >
> > well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
>
> I said "formats", not individual air personalities.
>
A cbs radio talk format in austin only lasted less than a year, 104.3 the coyote changed formats again when there night jock left. see anything here?<P ID="signature">______________
http://natedoggairchecks.6x.to/
sfradio (at) gmail (dot) com</P>
> > long
> > > enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time; (b)
>
> > > have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> > > cancelled less than a year after launch.
> > >
> > well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
>
> I said "formats", not individual air personalities.
>
A cbs radio talk format in austin only lasted less than a year, 104.3 the coyote changed formats again when there night jock left. see anything here?<P ID="signature">______________
http://natedoggairchecks.6x.to/
sfradio (at) gmail (dot) com</P>
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DyingMedium
Guest
You certainly can't blame all of KNEW's problems on Kohl. That station, by the way, when he was actually allowed to spend money, moved up in the ratings. Ratings which have dropped since he left. Also, there were some who felt that Premier screwed the SF market when they wouldn't move Limbaugh over to KNEW.
You can't believe (or maybe you could) how much the political winds changed direction in that building. Not to mention Kohl was still spending half his time in Sacramento, supervising those stations (not his idea). Kohl is far from perfect, but KNEW's failure falls mainly on the revolving market manager door at that time. That company has so many VPs...and they all had/have different ideas.
As far as Free FM goes, it is stumbling, but I think it will eventually right itself. The idea behind it is solid. Execution has been something else. They should've gone with local talent in morning drive and syndicated the mid days. I liked London...Think he's kind of an ass, but he's a great radio talent.
> > >
> That's Ol Ken Kohl, the merry old sole. The man who gave us
> the superb
> KNEW. Sounds like Free is headed to syndication land. London
> and
> Darian both had track records in SF, but the shows had no
> content.
> I got tired of hearing that if you didn't like the station
> it
> was to smart for you. Please! I guess the subtlty of Londons
>
> "Phone Bitch" character requires an IQ in the 200's, Oh wait
> That .200 !
>
> But as is always the case, Kohl has been promoted to VP of
> Newstalk for
> SF by CBS for the great job he's done. No wonder Katie
> Couric got hired
> to anchor the CBS evening news.
>
You can't believe (or maybe you could) how much the political winds changed direction in that building. Not to mention Kohl was still spending half his time in Sacramento, supervising those stations (not his idea). Kohl is far from perfect, but KNEW's failure falls mainly on the revolving market manager door at that time. That company has so many VPs...and they all had/have different ideas.
As far as Free FM goes, it is stumbling, but I think it will eventually right itself. The idea behind it is solid. Execution has been something else. They should've gone with local talent in morning drive and syndicated the mid days. I liked London...Think he's kind of an ass, but he's a great radio talent.
> > >
> That's Ol Ken Kohl, the merry old sole. The man who gave us
> the superb
> KNEW. Sounds like Free is headed to syndication land. London
> and
> Darian both had track records in SF, but the shows had no
> content.
> I got tired of hearing that if you didn't like the station
> it
> was to smart for you. Please! I guess the subtlty of Londons
>
> "Phone Bitch" character requires an IQ in the 200's, Oh wait
> That .200 !
>
> But as is always the case, Kohl has been promoted to VP of
> Newstalk for
> SF by CBS for the great job he's done. No wonder Katie
> Couric got hired
> to anchor the CBS evening news.
>
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blackhole
Guest
BINGO!!!! You are the only one on here who gets it. FINALLY!!!
> You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM!
>
> You know just maybe John London got rid of Free FM!
>
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getbent
Guest
Re: London Fired from "Free FM"
> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
>
I liked John London, Sure,he's a curmudgeon, but with lightning fast wit and razor sharp sarcasm, and funny as hell.
Problem w/ an all talk station, never a song to end a bit when it should.
Brad Kava's article:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/14311908.htm
some Podcasts available at:
http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/index.php?iid=8011
my 2 cents: station will fail at talk, will go pop-hits w/ a zany 'zoo' morning show, launching January 2007
> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
>
I liked John London, Sure,he's a curmudgeon, but with lightning fast wit and razor sharp sarcasm, and funny as hell.
Problem w/ an all talk station, never a song to end a bit when it should.
Brad Kava's article:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/14311908.htm
some Podcasts available at:
http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/index.php?iid=8011
my 2 cents: station will fail at talk, will go pop-hits w/ a zany 'zoo' morning show, launching January 2007
K
KMRichards
Guest
> > > > Oh, come on, Allison. You've been around the business
>
> > > long
> > > > enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time;
> (b)
> >
> > > > have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> > > > cancelled less than a year after launch.
> > > >
> > > well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
> >
> > I said "formats", not individual air personalities.
> >
> A cbs radio talk format in austin only lasted less than a
> year, 104.3 the coyote changed formats again when there
> night jock left. see anything here?
Yes. I see this thread becoming convoluted simply because Allison started her wild speculation and others went off posting without even reading what I posted in response.
Austin is market #42 and does not relate directly to market #4 for terms of this comparison.
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>
> > > long
> > > > enough to know that formats (a) need shakedown time;
> (b)
> >
> > > > have lots of changes during shakedown; (c) never get
> > > > cancelled less than a year after launch.
> > > >
> > > well, you're about to see DLR gone less than a year
> >
> > I said "formats", not individual air personalities.
> >
> A cbs radio talk format in austin only lasted less than a
> year, 104.3 the coyote changed formats again when there
> night jock left. see anything here?
Yes. I see this thread becoming convoluted simply because Allison started her wild speculation and others went off posting without even reading what I posted in response.
Austin is market #42 and does not relate directly to market #4 for terms of this comparison.
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> Not much info available... various rumours floating...
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> big mistake by cbs dumping london. he was the only thing worth listening to on the station. maybe this was the first step in admitting the format was a mistake and they want to tank it now and cut their losses. new afternoon guy is a joke. perhaps london can get his show in syndication.
> nothing announced - but John London's out at 106.9
> big mistake by cbs dumping london. he was the only thing worth listening to on the station. maybe this was the first step in admitting the format was a mistake and they want to tank it now and cut their losses. new afternoon guy is a joke. perhaps london can get his show in syndication.
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