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"Lone Star" gets the Ax by FOX

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It's 3 and out for The new primetime FOX-TV soap as "Lie to Me" takes over starting next Monday after "House".
 
Troy Goodwin said:
It's 3 and out for The new primetime FOX-TV soap as "Lie to Me" takes over starting next Monday after "House".
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No.. just 2 and out. :)
Sorry to see that too. The show itself is pretty good.
 
Who would've thought about it? It was Jon Voight's first role on a prime-time television show. Not too bad for Angelina's Dad. No wonder why "Lone Star" sucked; More People are tuning into "The Event", which happens to be a very addictive new show-And they're starting to get themselves hooked-right from the very first episode.
 
This announcement doesn't surprise me. I wasn't that impressed with the debut episode. Oh well another show I can remove from my DVR list. Anyone have any ratings figures for this show? It must have been pretty low in order for FOX executives to cancel Lone Star so fast.
 
Well I'm gushing over it too after seeing the first two episodes. I think it is a quality show, well-written, well-acted and all around well-crafted. Another candidate for "Brilliant but Cancelled." I hope FOX decides to burn off the episodes in the can on maybe some Friday or Saturday nights....(sigh)
 
Fridays, who knows. Saturdays, unlikely--Cops and AMW don't get displaced often save for sports.
 
Also on the bubble are ABC's "The Whole Truth" and
"My Generation", and NBC's "Outlaw" (the last airs on
Fridays).

USA Today had the top-rated shows listed for the
week ending Sept. 26. They are:

1. Dancing With The Stars (ABC)
2. NCIS (CBS)
3. Dancing With The Stars Results (ABC)
4. Sunday Night Football (NBC)
5. NCIS: Los Angeles (CBS)
6. The Mentalist (CBS)
7. CSI (CBS)
8. Two And A Half Men (CBS)
9. 60 Minutes (CBS)
10. Grey's Anatomy (ABC)
11. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
12. Criminal Minds (CBS)
13. The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
14. NCIS: Los Angeles special (Tue 10 PM) (CBS)
15. Desperate Housewives (ABC)
16. Blue Bloods (CBS)
17. Modern Family (ABC)
18. $#*! My Dad Says (CBS)
Survivor: Nicaragua (CBS)
20. Glee (Fox)

Among 18-49-year-olds:

1. Sunday Night Football
2. Glee
3. Grey's Anatomy
4. Modern Family
Dancing With The Stars
6. Two And A Half Men
The Big Bang Theory
8. Family Guy (Fox)
9. The Office (NBC)
Dancing With The Stars results
11. Desperate Housewives
12. House (Fox)
13. Football Night In America, Part 3 (NBC)
Survivor: Nicaragua
NCIS
16. $#*! My Dad Says
Criminal Minds
Hawaii Five-O
Mike & Molly (CBS)
20. Undercover Boss (CBS)

The top 5 new shows (total audience)

Hawaii Five-O
Blue Bloods
$#*! My Dad Says
Mike & Molly
The Defenders (CBS, overall rank 21st)

The top 5 new shows (18-49-year-olds)

$#*! My Dad Says
Hawaii Five-O
Mike & Molly
The Event (NBC)
Outsourced (NBC)

Overall, CBS was up 6% in total audience (12.5 million) and
NBC, 8% (8.2 million) over last year; ABC was off 13% (to 9.6
million) and Fox down 12% (to 6.5 million). USA Today listed
only two other networks: Univision (4 million viewers) and the
CW (2.5 million). (Sorry for the specific numbers, but I had to
use them a little.)
 
bpatrick said:
Also on the bubble are ABC's "The Whole Truth" and
"My Generation", and NBC's "Outlaw" (the last airs on
Fridays).

USA Today had the top-rated shows listed for the
week ending Sept. 26. They are:

1. Dancing With The Stars (ABC)
2. NCIS (CBS)
3. Dancing With The Stars Results (ABC)
4. Sunday Night Football (NBC)
5. NCIS: Los Angeles (CBS)
6. The Mentalist (CBS)
7. CSI (CBS)
8. Two And A Half Men (CBS)
9. 60 Minutes (CBS)
10. Grey's Anatomy (ABC)
11. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
12. Criminal Minds (CBS)
13. The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
14. NCIS: Los Angeles special (Tue 10 PM) (CBS)
15. Desperate Housewives (ABC)
16. Blue Bloods (CBS)
17. Modern Family (ABC)
18. $#*! My Dad Says (CBS)
Survivor: Nicaragua (CBS)
20. Glee (Fox)

Among 18-49-year-olds:

1. Sunday Night Football
2. Glee
3. Grey's Anatomy
4. Modern Family
Dancing With The Stars
6. Two And A Half Men
The Big Bang Theory
8. Family Guy (Fox)
9. The Office (NBC)
Dancing With The Stars results
11. Desperate Housewives
12. House (Fox)
13. Football Night In America, Part 3 (NBC)
Survivor: Nicaragua
NCIS
16. $#*! My Dad Says
Criminal Minds
Hawaii Five-O
Mike & Molly (CBS)
20. Undercover Boss (CBS)

The top 5 new shows (total audience)

Hawaii Five-O
Blue Bloods
$#*! My Dad Says
Mike & Molly
The Defenders (CBS, overall rank 21st)

The top 5 new shows (18-49-year-olds)

$#*! My Dad Says
Hawaii Five-O
Mike & Molly
The Event (NBC)
Outsourced (NBC)

Overall, CBS was up 6% in total audience (12.5 million) and
NBC, 8% (8.2 million) over last year; ABC was off 13% (to 9.6
million) and Fox down 12% (to 6.5 million). USA Today listed
only two other networks: Univision (4 million viewers) and the
CW (2.5 million). (Sorry for the specific numbers, but I had to
use them a little.)
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Thanks for the ratings.

I just can't believe the Shatner show did that well. I didn't find it one bit amusing, except when Shatner made the comment that nobody does a decent impersonation of him.
 
Lead-ins do still matter.  Just because it's not to the exact same degree, it doesn't mean people won't sample something that follows an established success.  Whether they stick with it over multiple weeks is what remains to be seen.

Sure, some shows bomb with the best of lead ins--let alone mediocre ones--just as they always have. It's gamble, but your odds improve with a placement behind a hit.
 
Al Timiter said:
Another candidate for "Brilliant but Cancelled..."
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Hey, isn't the cable network that had that format cancelled itself? ::)

(Oh, and TVOR... you really have to curb the quote button... not a single reply between the twenty minute gap between your post and the one you were replying to...)
 
imhomerjay said:
Lead-ins do still matter. Just because it's not to the exact same degree, it doesn't mean people won't sample something that follows an established success. Whether they stick with it over multiple weeks is what remains to be seen.

Sure, some shows bomb with the best of lead ins--let alone mediocre ones--just as they always have. It's gamble, but your odds improve with a placement behind a hit.
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And maybe the classic case was "Bridget Loves Bernie." I know that there were some objections from both Jewish and Catholic groups about the interfaith marriage, but it managed to lose nine points from its lead-in, "All In The Family," despite being tied for fifth among all shows in the 1972-73 season. That indicates a mass tune-out that was not tolerable to CBS. The next year "M*A*S*H" followed "AITF" and there's a drop of only 5.5 points (and "M*A*S*H" finished fourth among all shows, not to mention being both a critical and a demographic hit).

Perhaps the numbers will explain why CBS dropped "Bridget Loves Bernie" (source: Brooks and Marsh):

1972-73 All In The Family 33.3
Bridget Loves Bernie 24.2

1973-74 All In The Family 31.2
M*A*S*H 25.7

Homer, you're a marketing guy. What do these numbers suggest to you?
 
DToTheJ said:
"Lone Star" was the lowest-ranked program of Monday night, not counting CW programming.
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Which then begs the question, why hasn't the CW been canceled yet?
 
dhett said:
DToTheJ said:
"Lone Star" was the lowest-ranked program of Monday night, not counting CW programming.
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Which then begs the question, why hasn't the CW been canceled yet?
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There's room for 4.5 networks in America. There's room for more than four, but less than five. Not even merging WB and The CW helped.
 
Raymie said:
There's room for 4.5 networks in America. There's room for more than four, but less than five. Not even merging WB and The CW helped.
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It isn't a bandwidth issue (assuming sponsors are still available at the 4.5+ mark) and isn't the reason WB/CW failed. They failed because they either (a) targeted the wrong demo and/or (b) put crap on the air. Probably a combination of both.

Right now in my market CW (affiliated with an indie station here) shows one syndicated rerun worth watching. ION and MyNetworkTV show nothing of interest and don't even exist on any menu.
 
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