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Believe it or not, a pair of Delta players and a Record amp just sold on EBay for $493.50!
 
I WILL NEVER REPLACE ANOTHER SET OF ITC HEADS!

I WILL NEVER REPLACE ANOTHER PINCH ROLLER!

I WILL NEVER BUILD A NEW CART FROM SCRATCH WITH A SPOTMASTER REEL WINDER.

What a bad idea. Good for the 1960's but bad for stations in the 90's that still used them.

The audio quality of a cheap sound card and a PC beats a cart machine all to hooey.

Dees is still using carts in LA though so I guess there's still a market.
 
They are also being used in many college and third world countries stations. The third world folks hate computers!

You can still buy brand spankin' new carts and also have carts reloaded for you by www.cartguys.com.

R
 
Call it a nostalgia thing, but I always loved working with old dinosaur broadcast equipment, including cart machines. I always felt you could do a much tighter seg with one, especially if you're slip cueing vinyl (am I showing my age?).

After being out of the biz for a while, I recently visited a fairly new radio station in town and toured their studios with some pretty modern equipment (most of it I didn't understand), and a studio just doesn't look right to me without a cart machine, a monster cart rack and perhaps a reel deck or two.

Just my two cents worth. I'll go crawl back into my hole now. ;)
 
When we built a new station in 2000 we bought a reel to reel but never installed it.

I agree that the studios now look less warm and friendly. I worked with the old tube type mod monitors. Had to turn it on at sign on and wait for it to center frequency.

Remember the old Gates stepper remote control, with the rotary dial "pad". telemetry channel 9, turn...clink clink clink clink clink clink clink clink clink.

The warm glow of a Collins 5/10kw AM transmitter with the picture window on the modulator and rf tubes. The singing of the modulation transformers as audio never intended for such a sweet device was fed through it. Dap with a volumax ahead of it.

Rick Dees even had a replica of an old RCA console built, with rotary faders. The magic of radio is gone with the volumes of great talent I am afraid.

We are in a new studio build and I am trying to find ways to make the new studio look like an older style studio yet still in this century. The older style silver On Air signs are a start I think.
 
I am as nostalgic as the next person, but the improvement in quality on the air today is not even close to what we all grew up on. Anybody remember pops and clicks on records, not to mention "cue-burn"?
Broadband processing with its thumping. Dirty cart heads and/or bad carts...starting records on the wrong speed...
ahh yes, the good old days!

I was talking to a buddy of mine who owns a station and when he took over they had a typical 70's installation....old Gates Board, turntables, carts, reel to reels, consumer Cd players...
He yanked it all out...the production room now is simply a computer with Cool Edit and a mic fed into it!
All the bells and whistles are really cool in a big old production room but for them all they need is voice over music mixing sent straight into the automation software....

It's amazing how much less expensive all of the technologies have made it. Think about years ago: Buying a $7000 console, $300-$400 mic, those big old turntables were at least that much...your typical ITC R/P in the THOUSANDS, not to mention $3-$5 per cart.....$3000 reel to reel recorders...
Now, a good $1000 laptop can do it all!
 
Steve Eberhart said:
I am as nostalgic as the next person, but the improvement in quality on the air today is not even close to what we all grew up on. Anybody remember pops and clicks on records, not to mention "cue-burn"?
Broadband processing with its thumping. Dirty cart heads and/or bad carts...starting records on the wrong speed...
ahh yes, the good old days!

Knocking over carts while on the air, open reel decks stopping too early when Mr. Twenty Five Hertz did his thing,

Sadly the $1,000 computer has its own pros and cons as well. Hard drives fail, software crashes...

It's funny how kids today have no clue about the pre-computer age. "A record...??? What is THAT?"

R
 
Robert Bass said:
It's funny how kids today have no clue about the pre-computer age. "A record...??? What is THAT?"

R

This week, we had a group of bright kids from a local high school drop by the station for a tour. These kids were radio/audio savvy; in fact, they produce a weekly one hour show that runs Sunday nights on our station. It was a lot was fun to show them around.

As well as a working radio station, we have a lot of old equipment on display for them to look at. Not a one of them had ever seen a cart machine, but the group seemed fascinated that something so crude could make audio. In fact, none of them knew anything about audio tape, other than cassettes and they knew that VHS machines used tape too. They had no idea that you could edit audio tape, and that you used a razor blade to do it. As far as they knew all editing has always been done on a computer. Then I showed them a wire recorder....
 
Chuck said:
As far as they knew all editing has always been done on a computer. Then I showed them a wire recorder....

ROFLMAO!!! ;D I wish I could have been there to witness their reaction! :)

R
 
"Knocking over carts while on the air"

At KGLD, St. Louis I did this almost every night, as I set up about 4 hours of stuff (and back down again).

I also was just thinking about being 22 years old and recording 2600 carts with OLDIES for WIND, Chicago. What a GREAT Summer I had! When WIND changed to talk, those carts migrated to WOWO, Ft. Wayne.
 
Believe it or not I have 50 brand new audiopaks still on the boxes, more 50 lightly used Aristocarts on the way and about a mix of 120 Fidelipacs, Sonifex's, audiopaks, 3Ms... Some of them almost useless due to pressure pads desintegration :'(
A BE 5300 triple stack with a melted pinch roller and a Sonifex Micro HS cart recorder. On the way is a ITC triple deck with a record unit attached. All this @home ;D

Doctor, Am I a cart freak???
 
wkbam1690 said:
Believe it or not, a pair of Delta players and a Record amp just sold on EBay for $493.50!

Hmmm I got a couple of Delta play/records and two 99 also....plus two Denon 650FAs and then there is that AM Stereo exciter and monitor......Ebay here I come!!! :) I'm keeping the PR&E board for now...
Wait I found my Martis xmtr/rcv package on UHF too.....and there's the amp, antennas and where DID I place the rotor....????? My rating on Ebay is about to go up...(so much for the LP-FM I was planning ;)
 
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