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How long before CBS kills off WYSP for a simulcast of KYW (a la KCBS/KFRC - San Fran-sicko)? I'm talking on the main FM signal, not this mamby-pamby HD station-between-the-station bulls*** we've been force-fed for the greater part of a year?
 
KYW had an FM; KYW/FM after beginning life on 45.7 Mc with their tower on Sansom St., shuffled around many frequencies from 100.3, 93.1 and 92.5 until being donated to a group of educational broadcasters and landing at 90.9 as WHYY FM in the late 40's. Of course, we all remember WIBG FM beginning life at 48.1 Mc then moving to 95.1, 97.5 and finally settling at 94.1 and ultimately becoming WYSP Your Station in Philadelphia)
 
If KYW went to FM, it wouldn't have nearly the coverage it has now. I'm not saying that the AM covers as a local for the Pakanos or Shore. But i'm just thinkin okay so a Philadelphia FM give the forcast for places ware it can't be heard?
Perhaps it doesn't matter. People in Philly may wanna hear the Shore forcast for if they headed that way over the weekend. Honestly 94.1 has better coverage then KYW's signal in some spots.

John
Bensalem, PA
 
John Holcomb II said:
94.1 has better coverage then KYW's signal in some spots.

Like under any overpass or powerlines in the area where the ratings actually count! Moving KYW to one of their FM's would be great for CBS if they ended up having nothing better to do with one of them.
 
Not only would it get coverage ware the ratings count, but the signal would be of much higher quolety on FM Anolog, as the HD signal doesn't degrade the frequency responce nearly as much on FM as it does AM due to the IBOC bein' on.
Also why is the tellatype still being used on KYW? (At least I think that's what that noise is that is heard during the main broadcast. Notice its not on during camersial breaks, or when they are doing anything out of the main studio such as coverage via phone, taped portions, etc.
John
Bensalem, PA
 
John Holcomb II said:
Not only would it get coverage ware the ratings count, but the signal would be of much higher quolety on FM Anolog, as the HD signal doesn't degrade the frequency responce nearly as much on FM as it does AM due to the IBOC bein' on.
Also why is the tellatype still being used on KYW? (At least I think that's what that noise is that is heard during the main broadcast. Notice its not on during camersial breaks, or when they are doing anything out of the main studio such as coverage via phone, taped portions, etc.
John
Bensalem, PA

1010 WINS, NY uses the spell check.....uhmmm....teletype also.
 
kms575 said:
John Holcomb II said:
Not only would it get coverage ware the ratings count, but the signal would be of much higher quolety on FM Anolog, as the HD signal doesn't degrade the frequency responce nearly as much on FM as it does AM due to the IBOC bein' on.
Also why is the tellatype still being used on KYW? (At least I think that's what that noise is that is heard during the main broadcast. Notice its not on during camersial breaks, or when they are doing anything out of the main studio such as coverage via phone, taped portions, etc.
John
Bensalem, PA

1010 WINS, NY uses the spell check.....uhmmm....teletype also.

It's like the positioner ("you give us 22 minutes..."), and the jingle, and the "I'm (anchor), at the editor's desk...", and the school closings by number, and "traffic and transit on the 2's". That's why the teletype after all these years... it helps identify the station. I couldn't imagine KYW without the teletype ticking away in the background. Wouldn't sound the same without it. Only thing I miss is the "breaking news tones". I'm still not fond of the "this just in... to KYW News Radio" sounder. The tones gave you that "Oh, s**t" moment, almost a "Pavlov's Dog" response that something big was about to be broadcast. The only thing close nowadays is the "FOX News Alert" sounder (WHOOSH! Boom/Bongggggggggg)
 
John Holcomb II said:
If KYW went to FM, it wouldn't have nearly the coverage it has now. I'm not saying that the AM covers as a local for the Pakanos or Shore. But i'm just thinkin okay so a Philadelphia FM give the forcast for places ware it can't be heard?
Perhaps it doesn't matter. People in Philly may wanna hear the Shore forcast for if they headed that way over the weekend. Honestly 94.1 has better coverage then KYW's signal in some spots.

John
Bensalem, PA

Notice he didn't say KYW would cease on 1060, but that it would be a simulcast.
 
Rockin Rob said:
How long before CBS kills off WYSP for a simulcast of KYW (a la KCBS/KFRC - San Fran-sicko)? I'm talking on the main FM signal, not this mamby-pamby HD station-between-the-station bulls*** we've been force-fed for the greater part of a year?

This must be quite an embarassment for the IBOC folks as San Francisco has both an AM-HD station with supposed FM quality and an FM reminding people what FM quality is. :D
 
ajc_trw said:
Rockin Rob said:
How long before CBS kills off WYSP for a simulcast of KYW (a la KCBS/KFRC - San Fran-sicko)? I'm talking on the main FM signal, not this mamby-pamby HD station-between-the-station bulls*** we've been force-fed for the greater part of a year?

This must be quite an embarassment for the IBOC folks as San Francisco has both an AM-HD station with supposed FM quality and an FM reminding people what FM quality is. :D

Yes, I'm sure it's all they can talk about at station meetings. ;D
 
Hey, making 94.1 KYW-FM wouldn't hurt. Wondering how WYSP's penetration is in office buildings. 94.1 may work there if 1060 doesn't, and on-line listening is prohibited...
 
Only thing one needs to consider (And oops, i didn't even realize i put that simmelcast bit down), is would the FM not cover an area ware the AM did? I'm thinkin' not, that its pretty much the other way 'round.
John
Bensalem, PA
 
Dave Hughes offers his latest rant (http://www.dcrtv.com/nyc.html) about Philly and CBS slapping KYW on 94.1FM. My feeling is that these AM to FM migrations will eventually lead to the end of the AM band altogether, somewhere in the near future (and I'll call it within 4-5 years).
 
John Holcomb II said:
Only thing one needs to consider (And oops, i didn't even realize i put that simmelcast bit down), is would the FM not cover an area ware the AM did? I'm thinkin' not, that its pretty much the other way 'round.
John
Bensalem, PA

Hi John,

Nothing's ever gonna make 94.1 FM reach further than 1060 AM. What I'm thinking about, from a business perspective, is the importance of making the station more listenable in the areas where it matters. (Areas where portable people meters are being worn, basically.)

The AM band is susceptible to seemingly every form of interference possible. If you turn to KYW for a weather report because there are thunderstorms in the area, the station can be downright unlistenable. People need traffic reports when they're driving and KYW gives 'em to us every 10 minutes...but if you happen to be in one of the many notorious AM "dead spots" or under an overpass or high tension wires, the station drops out. In some parts of the listening area, it can be a real pain to try to listen to KYW for 22 whole minutes!

I see no reason why CBS wouldn't simulcast NewsRadio on 1060 AM and 94.1 FM. But if they were to actually migrate it from the AM to the FM, distant listeners and DX-ers will be the only ones complaining. And I don't see CBS giving too big a hoot about taking the station away from listeners who don't affect their bottom line.
 
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