Shain & Young was a small company in Caneyville that produced radio boards in the late 60s/early 70s. I'm refurbishing the one I used at WBGN back then. The separate power supply is long gone. Honus Shain has supplied with enough info I could build one but it would be interesting to find an original one. Quite a few KY stations bought these boards. WKLO bought one that went to Cave City. Where is that one now?? Some Shain & Young boards even went to South America.
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Looking for Shain & Young power supply
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Have you tried this site? http://www.1080wklo.com/wklophotos.htmknoxbob said:
I found a studio shot of the Shain & Young board at WKLO. It was used in the newsroom - top photo - the 8 channel board on the left:
http://www.1080wklo.com/wklophotos11.htm
As I understand, this board made its way to a Cave City station. WBGN in Bowling Green used this model board as the main studio board from 1967 to 1988. I jocked behind it for a total of about five years, 1975 to 1977 and 1980 to 1983.
The WBGN jocks have a facebook page. May I post that newsroom pic there. We would all get a kick out of seeing another Cherokee "300" in use. Honus Shain would like to see it, too.
http://www.1080wklo.com/wklophotos11.htm
As I understand, this board made its way to a Cave City station. WBGN in Bowling Green used this model board as the main studio board from 1967 to 1988. I jocked behind it for a total of about five years, 1975 to 1977 and 1980 to 1983.
The WBGN jocks have a facebook page. May I post that newsroom pic there. We would all get a kick out of seeing another Cherokee "300" in use. Honus Shain would like to see it, too.
I've already been in contact with Honus Shain. I got to meet him when his wife was bowling in Bowling Green the other night. He has one power supply left but it is not for sale. He did supply me with the schematic, though. It would be easy enough to build a power supply that would work, but having an original power supply would be special.
He remembers that stations in Monticello and Prestonsburg bought his boards.
He remembers that stations in Monticello and Prestonsburg bought his boards.
The WKLO board did indeed end up in Cave City. I bought it in the Spring of 1984 from Bruce Clark and it became the on-air board for my first station, WSMJ.
Henry Royse handled the installation for me and got some spare parts from Honus, and it served us very well.
I'm pretty sure Henry ended up with the board several years later...so you might want to check with him at WCLU in Glasgow.
Henry Royse handled the installation for me and got some spare parts from Honus, and it served us very well.
I'm pretty sure Henry ended up with the board several years later...so you might want to check with him at WCLU in Glasgow.
Thanks, Steve. Henry has posted on another forum about modifying that board with a gold faceplate. But he didn't mention the current status of the board. I'll have to ask him a specific question, I guess.
If you're wondering what the WBGN Shain & Young board looks like, here it is/was in 1988:
http://home.earthlink.net/~threynolds2/boards/wbgn_board.jpg
The monitor muting relays were mounted on the rack mounted power supply instead of in the board.
If you're wondering what the WBGN Shain & Young board looks like, here it is/was in 1988:
http://home.earthlink.net/~threynolds2/boards/wbgn_board.jpg
The monitor muting relays were mounted on the rack mounted power supply instead of in the board.
PirateJohnny said:
I'm sure that board was a real workhorse with good specs for it's day. But I'm far more interested in the other things in the picture.
1. The woodgrain laminate countertop. How many thousands of those were in radio stations across the country? But I really love the concave rounding on this one so you could "belly up" to the board. (It sucked that there was no place to put your log down in front of you.)
2. The Microtrak tonearms. Were those so popular because jocks couldn't change the tracking force and get them out of whack? Those were great arms unless the head shell got loose.
3. The red- yellow- green pushbuttons added to the left side. (Stoplight colors?) The board has remote start buttons on it, so what were those for? Did the internal remote start buttons go bad?
4. The box with what appears to be 3 lights to the left of the cart machines. I'm thinking those lit up when the phone rang? Maybe one for request line, one for hot line, one for door bell?
5. 3 buttons to the right of the board- silver, red, and black- reel to reel controls? Play, record, and stop? (Maybe that's the same thing the three on the left are) And I love the red and blue Dymo label tape on that!
6. Notice the right turntable is missing the black knob that screws onto the on/ off switch. Did it crack and fall off? Or did a bored jock take it off and lose it? (Not that anything like that ever happened to me.)
7. The panelling. More ugly classic. LOL.
8. Love the big, thick mic cables plugged in to the table top mounted jack on the left- looping 6 inches into the air. LOL.
9. That black box on the right that is holding the ITC PD-II cart machines.... I used to have a box like that that was old radio station equipment. Now I know what it was for!
10. The microphone- judging from the clip I'd say it's an electrovoice 635-a. Why were those so popular? They rolled off the low end really bad and sounded really lame for radio. Their big selling point was that you could drive a nail with them and they would still work just fine! LOL.
PirateJohnny-
The equipment went to Hilltopper Broadcasting (Wes Strader / Barry Williams) when the station was sold. Some of it was resold to Henry Royse later.
Notes: The remote start controls were powered by outboard supplies, not a part of the original board. The VU meter was calibrated to read 3db higher than originally designed. The high-end frequency response at the output was extended beyond original design. Some of the contacts on the (then turntable) aud/pgm switches are badly burned.
Greg.Hahn-
1. The woodgrain laminate countertop. How many thousands of those were in radio stations across the country? But I really love the concave rounding on this one so you could "belly up" to the board. (It sucked that there was no place to put your log down in front of you.) The cabinetry was built by one of the station’s owners in his home workshop.
2. The Microtrak tonearms. Were those so popular because jocks couldn't change the tracking force and get them out of whack? Those were great arms unless the head shell got loose. They held up well at least until someone sat on one.
3. The red- yellow- green pushbuttons added to the left side. (Stoplight colors?) The board has remote start buttons on it, so what were those for? Did the internal remote start buttons go bad? The outboard buttons on the left controlled an Ampex 440 in the production studio (stop / start / record). The buttons adjacent to the pots on the console are remote starts for the cart machines, turntables and EBS tones.
4. The box with what appears to be 3 lights to the left of the cart machines. I'm thinking those lit up when the phone rang? Maybe one for request line, one for hot line, one for door bell? Business lines 1 & 2 and hot/request lines.
5. 3 buttons to the right of the board- silver, red, and black- reel to reel controls? Play, record, and stop? (Maybe that's the same thing the three on the left are) And I love the red and blue Dymo label tape on that! Exactly correct, sir!
6. Notice the right turntable is missing the black knob that screws onto the on/ off switch. Did it crack and fall off? Or did a bored jock take it off and lose it? (Not that anything like that ever happened to me.) Not a clue.
7. The paneling. More ugly classic. LOL. 1960’s classic and thick, not like the tissue-thin paneling of today.
8. Love the big, thick mic cables plugged in to the table top mounted jack on the left- looping 6 inches into the air. LOL. It’s like this: The cable is heavy duty so it lasts. The jack is there to facilitate a quick change in the event of a cable problem.
9. That black box on the right that is holding the ITC PD-II cart machines.... I used to have a box like that that was old radio station equipment. Now I know what it was for!
Plywood, dark stained, built by the afore-mentioned station owner.
10. The microphone- judging from the clip I'd say it's an electrovoice 635-a. Why were those so popular? They rolled off the low end really bad and sounded really lame for radio. Their big selling point was that you could drive a nail with them and they would still work just fine! LOL. Not a 635. I believe it was an RE16. Same microphone used in production studio.
Bonus points you if can tell us what happened to the pop-top chain that once graced the studio circa 1970 give or take.
-WBN
The equipment went to Hilltopper Broadcasting (Wes Strader / Barry Williams) when the station was sold. Some of it was resold to Henry Royse later.
Notes: The remote start controls were powered by outboard supplies, not a part of the original board. The VU meter was calibrated to read 3db higher than originally designed. The high-end frequency response at the output was extended beyond original design. Some of the contacts on the (then turntable) aud/pgm switches are badly burned.
Greg.Hahn-
1. The woodgrain laminate countertop. How many thousands of those were in radio stations across the country? But I really love the concave rounding on this one so you could "belly up" to the board. (It sucked that there was no place to put your log down in front of you.) The cabinetry was built by one of the station’s owners in his home workshop.
2. The Microtrak tonearms. Were those so popular because jocks couldn't change the tracking force and get them out of whack? Those were great arms unless the head shell got loose. They held up well at least until someone sat on one.
3. The red- yellow- green pushbuttons added to the left side. (Stoplight colors?) The board has remote start buttons on it, so what were those for? Did the internal remote start buttons go bad? The outboard buttons on the left controlled an Ampex 440 in the production studio (stop / start / record). The buttons adjacent to the pots on the console are remote starts for the cart machines, turntables and EBS tones.
4. The box with what appears to be 3 lights to the left of the cart machines. I'm thinking those lit up when the phone rang? Maybe one for request line, one for hot line, one for door bell? Business lines 1 & 2 and hot/request lines.
5. 3 buttons to the right of the board- silver, red, and black- reel to reel controls? Play, record, and stop? (Maybe that's the same thing the three on the left are) And I love the red and blue Dymo label tape on that! Exactly correct, sir!
6. Notice the right turntable is missing the black knob that screws onto the on/ off switch. Did it crack and fall off? Or did a bored jock take it off and lose it? (Not that anything like that ever happened to me.) Not a clue.
7. The paneling. More ugly classic. LOL. 1960’s classic and thick, not like the tissue-thin paneling of today.
8. Love the big, thick mic cables plugged in to the table top mounted jack on the left- looping 6 inches into the air. LOL. It’s like this: The cable is heavy duty so it lasts. The jack is there to facilitate a quick change in the event of a cable problem.
9. That black box on the right that is holding the ITC PD-II cart machines.... I used to have a box like that that was old radio station equipment. Now I know what it was for!
Plywood, dark stained, built by the afore-mentioned station owner.
10. The microphone- judging from the clip I'd say it's an electrovoice 635-a. Why were those so popular? They rolled off the low end really bad and sounded really lame for radio. Their big selling point was that you could drive a nail with them and they would still work just fine! LOL. Not a 635. I believe it was an RE16. Same microphone used in production studio.
Bonus points you if can tell us what happened to the pop-top chain that once graced the studio circa 1970 give or take.
-WBN
greg.hahn said:
I assembled probably a hundred feet or more of that pop-top chain. MBG stretched it around E.A. Diddle Arena on a bet (that he couldn't do it). I heard later he had almost enough to go around twice.
ADAMKY, what do I win? Oh, Kevin Proctor, Doc Kaelin's father and Terry Climer all passed away in December.
Bonus points you if can tell us what happened to the pop-top chain that once graced the studio circa 1970 give or take.
I assembled probably a hundred feet or more of that pop-top chain. MBG stretched it around E.A. Diddle Arena on a bet (that he couldn't do it). I heard later he had almost enough to go around twice.
ADAMKY, what do I win?
You win that AKG microphone you mentioned.
-WBN
I assembled probably a hundred feet or more of that pop-top chain. MBG stretched it around E.A. Diddle Arena on a bet (that he couldn't do it). I heard later he had almost enough to go around twice.
ADAMKY, what do I win?
You win that AKG microphone you mentioned.
-WBN
Don't have a Shain & Young but I do know where a Gatesway 80 console, with power supply, is available. It was recently removed from service and just needs a little TLC.
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