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Looks like Walmart Gave Up On HD Recievers For the Home....

radiopilot said:
Just did a check on Walmart's website and before they had some HD radios, now they only carry the JVC car tuner only...

Like I said before Walmart is very savvy about having products that don't sell and take up space on their shelves... as you can see they did sell 3 months ago HD clock radios, but now is selling only the car tuner.

http://www.walmart.com/search/searc...tinue.x=31&Continue.y=4&Continue=Find&ic=24_0

Radiopilot

"JVC Mobile HD Radio Receiver/CD Player w/ iPod-Ready - KD-HDW10"

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5645812

I just checked today - Walmat was supposed to be carrying HD radios in-store, with some sort of consumer awareness training. Well, Walmart's one HD radio has been relegated to on-line only status ! :D Stores are getting free advertising for only minimal effort to promote HD Radio.
 
PocketRadio said:
radiopilot said:
Just did a check on Walmart's website and before they had some HD radios, now they only carry the JVC car tuner only...

Like I said before Walmart is very savvy about having products that don't sell and take up space on their shelves... as you can see they did sell 3 months ago HD clock radios, but now is selling only the car tuner.

http://www.walmart.com/search/searc...tinue.x=31&Continue.y=4&Continue=Find&ic=24_0

Radiopilot

"JVC Mobile HD Radio Receiver/CD Player w/ iPod-Ready - KD-HDW10"

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5645812

I just checked today - Walmat was supposed to be carrying HD radios in-store, with some sort of consumer awareness training. Well, Walmart's one HD radio has been relegated to on-line only status ! :D Stores are getting free advertising for only minimal effort to promote HD Radio.

PocketRadio


Lets see, here's what one gets when they search the offerings of satelite radio, 3 pages of XM/Sirius products both online and in the stores:


http://www.walmart.com/search/searc...tinue.x=28&Continue.y=6&Continue=Find&ic=24_0


Now here are the offerings for HD radio, mind you the JVC HD car radio is ONLY OFFERED ONLINE ONLY:

http://www.walmart.com/search/searc...tinue.x=34&Continue.y=8&Continue=Find&ic=24_0

Of course there are those savvy Walmart shoppers willing to spend $86 bucks for the wonderful nigthtime companion book "The Iboc Handbook: Understanding Hd Radio (TM) Technology" before spending hard earned money: $150-500 useless HD radios because the HD Alliance and the pro-HD guys say you MUST have digital or be left behind along with LP, 8-track, cassettes, CD's, etc.

We'll see....


Radiopilot
 
"Kenwood 50W x 4 Satellite Radio/HD Radio-Ready CD Deck"

"Professional installation is strongly recommended for this product. Please visit your local Best Buy store for details. If you choose to install the product yourself, it may void any service plans that you purchased and/or warranties. See the details."

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8226476&st="hd+radio"&type=product&id=1166840602373

Interesting caveat from Best Buy - I bet, Wal-Mart has the same caveat. How much does professional installation cost ?
 
The rollout of satellite radio began in 2001, and cost BILLIONS of dollars. In fact the startup costs are still keeping satellite from profitability. It costs satellite providers about SIXTY DOLLARS PER LISTENER in advertising!

The rollout of HD (officially...the infrastructure has been being put in place for several years) began last year. Rollout costs of HD radio are minor in comparison. Terrestrial radio is already profitable (hugely so in many cases). Penetration is virtually universal. Acquisition costs per listener are tiny. BUT, and this is a huge but, radio has done an incredibly horrible job so far of marketing the new technology. No big deal, as the biggest names are just entering the arena. The announcement that Wal Mart would sell HD is only a couple of months old. WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THEY WILL CARRY, or where. They SAID they'd carry it in virtually all of their stores. We'll know this fall/winter if that turned out to be true. I think the Sony radio might be a much better fit to "Wally World" than anything (for the home) that's come out thusfar. Of course we won't really know much about "how it's doing" until all market sectors (car, home, portable, "walkman-type") have had time to settle in. There still aren't any portables...won't be till (earliest) late this year, or (more likely) early next.

Will HD succeed? If you believe that you know the answer to that, you're delusional. It's unknowable by a rational person! There are no facts yet upon which to base a judgement. What I THINK is that YES IT WILL if radio gets it's act together and markets it well. But NO IT WON'T if they don't. People didn't just suddenly say "gee, I've gotta' get me one of those little music players, Apple please make us one!" Apple created the player, then sold us on the idea that "Cool people want these. The coolest people HAVE them!" That's the way new technology comes about. Nobody was begging for the personal computer...even decades after it was introduced. It took a few "power apps" (easy to use graphical user interfaces, office suites which made worke asier, the world wide web, digital photography, digital music, broadband, etc.) to take it from "tech toy" to something useful. What are HD's "power apps"? So far, multicasting. But in time, much more. Electronic paging, conditional access for narrow niche markets, perhaps surround sound (although I couldn't care less about that), giving voices to minorities (not just racial and ethnic, but political, religious, and others) who wouldn't be heard otherwise (where are the liberal voices on talk radio? There are more Democrats than Republicans after all!), and those are just the ones my feeble mind can conjure up. There are lots of others...because unlike analog, digital radio is more than "just audio". It's binary code sent from point a to point b. And THAT can be most anything there's a market for...and will evolve over time.
 
It would be nice if Wal-Mart could have as many HD radios on display as they do HD TV's! Thats when you can say that HD radio has arrived, till then forget it!
 
RadioStarOne said:
It would be nice if Wal-Mart could have as many HD radios on display as they do HD TV's! Thats when you can say that HD radio has arrived, till then forget it!

I was in my local Wal-Mart today. There were more than 30 HD TVs on display, but not an HD radio to be found. I even bought a HDTV. They were having a blow out sale. I got an RCA 26" set, which is great for our guest room. Price? $300.00 plus tax. I voted with my pocket book, as I think most consumers do.

I looked for any signs of HD radio, even in the car stereo department. There were none to be had at any price. The only good news on the radio front was several of the car radios had my station programmed in the pre-sets. One was even tuned in to it when I turned it on. It didn't do much to increase my enthusiasm for HD radio, but I was flattered that you could hear my dulcet tones on radios in a public place ;D
 
RadioStarOne said:
It would be nice if Wal-Mart could have as many HD radios on display as they do HD TV's! Thats when you can say that HD radio has arrived, till then forget it!

Wal-Mart's one HD radio has been relegated to on-line status only.
 
You say "relegated" PocketRadio, as if it had been put in stores, then withdrawn. They don't have the radios in the stores YET. They said they WILL this year, and there's no reason to believe they won't. IF this time NEXT YEAR they haven't, then you can use terms like "relegated". There's just no evidence to support what you're implying, which (I believe) is that they "tried it, and failed". It didnt' happen. Perhaps it will, but proclaiming things "finished" when they've yet to begin doesn't do much for your credibility.
 
Mike Walker said:
You say "relegated" PocketRadio, as if it had been put in stores, then withdrawn. They don't have the radios in the stores YET. They said they WILL this year, and there's no reason to believe they won't. IF this time NEXT YEAR they haven't, then you can use terms like "relegated". There's just no evidence to support what you're implying, which (I believe) is that they "tried it, and failed". It didnt' happen. Perhaps it will, but proclaiming things "finished" when they've yet to begin doesn't do much for your credibility.

As far as I've been able to tell, they've never had them in most of their stores. At least, not in the ones I've visited.
 
Precisely my point, Chuck. They've said that they WILL have them in most stores this year, however. The year ain' over yet!

As for them having "as many HD Radios as TVs" at Wal Mart, they don't have as many audio products and computer products COMBINED as they do TVs. ;)
 
Mike Walker said:
Precisely my point, Chuck. They've said that they WILL have them in most stores this year, however. The year ain' over yet!

As for them having "as many HD Radios as TVs" at Wal Mart, they don't have as many audio products and computer products COMBINED as they do TVs. ;)

"Wal-Mart Enters HD-Radio Business" 3/5/2007

"Bentonville, Ark. — The nation’s largest retailer put its muscle behind digital HD-Radio technology with today’s launch of an HD-Radio-equipped JVC car CD player in 1,989 Wal-Mart stores in 85 markets."

"Wal-Mart’s launch includes major in-store support and could propel HD radio “to the tipping point,” the alliance claimed." :D

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6421134.html

Wrong - the radios have been in-store, along with supposed consumer awareness training that never materialized, but now have been relegated on-line only (the Receptor HD has already been pulled from inventory).
 
PocketRadio said:
Mike Walker said:
Precisely my point, Chuck. They've said that they WILL have them in most stores this year, however. The year ain' over yet!

As for them having "as many HD Radios as TVs" at Wal Mart, they don't have as many audio products and computer products COMBINED as they do TVs. ;)

"Wal-Mart Enters HD-Radio Business" 3/5/2007

"Bentonville, Ark. — The nation’s largest retailer put its muscle behind digital HD-Radio technology with today’s launch of an HD-Radio-equipped JVC car CD player in 1,989 Wal-Mart stores in 85 markets."

"Wal-Mart’s launch includes major in-store support and could propel HD radio “to the tipping point,” the alliance claimed." :D

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6421134.html

Wrong - the radios have been in-store, along with supposed consumer awareness training that never materialized, but now have been relegated on-line only (the Receptor HD has already been pulled from inventory).

How do you know this? Do you have personal knowledge?

Just Wondering...

Clouseau
 
I've never seen them "in store", and have looked repeatedly. If you know they've been "in store", tell us a store where they've been...the city, and location of a store where YOU HAVE SEEN THEM. This will allow the, er, skeptical among us to confirm your report by simply calling the store! Careful about making false claims...we can actually verify the truth! Am I wrong in my suspicions? PROVE ME WRONG! Tell me ONE STORE, just ONE STORE where they had an HD display and training program, then removed it. That's not unreasonable, is it?
 
Gee, I wonder why Pocket hasn't given us the location of that Wal Mart yet, so we can confirm his claim.
 
Another day, and no reply about exactly WHICH Wal Mart (just one, ANY one) had an HD Radio display and education program, and removed it. I think we're learning something about some of these claims posted as "fact".
 
Mike Walker said:
Another day, and no reply about exactly WHICH Wal Mart (just one, ANY one) had an HD Radio display and education program, and removed it. I think we're learning something about some of these claims posted as "fact".

"JVC Mobile HD Radio Receiver/CD Player w/ iPod-Ready - KD-HDW10"

"IN STOCK Online only"

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5645812

"Site to StoreSMAvailability Schedule"

http://www.walmart.com/cservice/s2s/availabilty_list.html

As I said, the ONE HD radio has been relegated to online staus only - the HD radios were to be put on store shelves beginning March 2007 ! :D
 
No Pocket, you said they HAD been put on store shelves and removed. Not the same thing AT ALL...not even close.

I asked you to tell me a store, a single store ANYWHERE where these radios have been put on the shelves, then taken off. ANY store. ANYWHERE. Because they are listed as only online NOW doesn't mean they aren't going to be in stores, AS WAL MART SAID. You say they HAVE been in stores, and WERE REMOVED. There is no url you can post that will prove that point. What we need is a store where this has happened. Or should I call their headquarters in Arkansas? (I've asked my local store...they say they haven't had any of the home radios).
 
I just talked with Andrew Smith (9:40am edt June 21) at Wal Mart's headquarters in Arkansas. He says they've started carrying the radios online, but haven't gotten displays in stores YET. He says they are coming to just about all Wal Mart stores later this year, and that I should contact the electronics manager at my local store in a couple of months to find out more.

Amazing what one can learn with a phone call. You were saying, Pocket? Oh I'm sure you've got a link for us. Maybe something on "Hear2".
 
Mike Walker said:
No Pocket, you said they HAD been put on store shelves and removed. Not the same thing AT ALL...not even close.

I asked you to tell me a store, a single store ANYWHERE where these radios have been put on the shelves, then taken off. ANY store. ANYWHERE. Because they are listed as only online NOW doesn't mean they aren't going to be in stores, AS WAL MART SAID. You say they HAVE been in stores, and WERE REMOVED. There is no url you can post that will prove that point. What we need is a store where this has happened. Or should I call their headquarters in Arkansas? (I've asked my local store...they say they haven't had any of the home radios).

Mike

See this link:

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,66196.msg470067.html#msg470067

NEW GENERATION RADIO / HD Radio / HD versus Internet Radio at Wal-Mart on: March 16, 2007, 11:26:35 am
This is what Wal-Mart is selling on it's shelves from a search I did..

Internet Ready receivers:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5018557

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5244396

These are plug into your computer and play devices... and not bad... I may just stop by and pick me up the Phillips unit.


And now HD Radio:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5336041

"Groundbreaking HD digital technology:

No subscription is needed to listen to HD radio technology with the sharpest, clearest reception and the best sound."


http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=4533&fromPageCatId=3983&catNavId=3983

What's funny is that they locate the Boston Acoustics radio with the portable players.. Ha ha... Who would pay 20 times as much for the $299.86 Boston Acoustics radio compared to the $14.86 radios?

The average consumer at Wal-Mart would not be inclined to spend that type of money on such an expensive 'clock radio'.


As you can see there were HD radios being sold at Walmart, now try doing that search and see that the only HD product being sold online is the JVC HD car radio.

Radiopilot
 
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