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LOS ANGELES - KCET GRANTS & DONATIONS DOWN 41% SINCE LEAVING PBS

gregg75

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This goes for KCSM in San Mateo they lost their PBS affiliation in 2009. But they had a hard time getting good programs on and because KQED and KQEH are the dominant PBS stations in the Northern California market. Look KQED inc Lost the other PBS affiliate KQEC-TV 32 in the 1980's or 1990's because of FCC violations at the time like TV-32 not aired for a certain number of hours. KMTP 32 is ethnic programming in SFO and KCSM in independent programming. I hope KCET does well as a non-profit independent station.
 
recto101 said:
I hope KCET does well as a non-profit independent station.
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They aren't. The programming on KCET is dated, stale and a slap in the face to anyone that enjoys non-com television. Their entire lineup now consists of shows from the American Public Television catalog and the standard BBC imports that keep the PBS stations in the DMA #100+ markets afloat. Their historic studios which once put Carl Sagan's Cosmos on the map for PBS have been sold to the Cult of Scientology. Huell Howser is running out of "amazing" places to showcase and has been getting long in the tooth for more than a decade. Their Saturday/Sunday kids programming have been the same 17 episodes of H.R. Pufnstuf & Lidsville since they told PBS to pound sand. To add insult to injury they do the Beg-A-Thon cycle the same time as PBS as if viewers wouldn't tell the difference. KCET and especially CEO Al Jerome are fooling no one. Al has been bleeding the cash kitty dry at KCET since 1996.

KCET should really just shut it all down because they are an embarrassment to broadcasting. Especially in a #2 market.
 
I'm more bemused by the commenter at the Times' website who complains about Juan Williams being fired from PBS and then praises the new direction at KCET. Juan Williams never worked for PBS.

Right now on KCET they're airing E/I: "Hands on Crafts for Kids", a program which I believe I've seen on Create. My local PBS station is currently running a rerun of "Nature," and has local and regional public affairs programs for the next two hours.

The only programs I see on KCET's schedule that's even moderately interesting are "Travel with Rick Steves" and "Al Jazeera English News" both of which aired before 7 this morning.
 
Robnoxious said:
recto101 said:
I hope KCET does well as a non-profit independent station.
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They aren't. The programming on KCET is dated, stale and a slap in the face to anyone that enjoys non-com television. Their entire lineup now consists of shows from the American Public Television catalog and the standard BBC imports that keep the PBS stations in the DMA #100+ markets afloat. Their historic studios which once put Carl Sagan's Cosmos on the map for PBS have been sold to the Cult of Scientology. Huell Howser is running out of "amazing" places to showcase and has been getting long in the tooth for more than a decade. Their Saturday/Sunday kids programming have been the same 17 episodes of H.R. Pufnstuf & Lidsville since they told PBS to pound sand. To add insult to injury they do the Beg-A-Thon cycle the same time as PBS as if viewers wouldn't tell the difference. KCET and especially CEO Al Jerome are fooling no one. Al has been bleeding the cash kitty dry at KCET since 1996.

KCET should really just shut it all down because they are an embarrassment to broadcasting. Especially in a #2 market.
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I agree with you KCSM is in the same toilet that KCET is in since they lost their PBS affiliation.
 
Speaking of stations which left PBS, what has happened to WMFE in Orlando? They left PBS in July awaiting approval of their sale to Daystar, but since then...nothing. They've been withering on the vine with a 24/7 trimulcast of V-me and have been ignored completely while they wait for Daystar to be approved to take them over. Talk about wasting away the $3 million sale price, and everyone in Central Florida happily moving to WUCF without as much of a shrug to WMFE.
 
mrschimpf said:
Speaking of stations which left PBS, what has happened to WMFE in Orlando? They left PBS in July awaiting approval of their sale to Daystar, but since then...nothing. They've been withering on the vine with a 24/7 trimulcast of V-me and have been ignored completely while they wait for Daystar to be approved to take them over. Talk about wasting away the $3 million sale price, and everyone in Central Florida happily moving to WUCF without as much of a shrug to WMFE.
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Look KOCE was supposed to be flipped to Daystar 10 years ago. KOCE was supposed to be a PBS Telecourse station like KCSM. But fast forward 10 years KOCE is a flagship PBS station in the market and KCET is in the toilet like KCSM.
 
recto101 said:
mrschimpf said:
Speaking of stations which left PBS, what has happened to WMFE in Orlando? They left PBS in July awaiting approval of their sale to Daystar, but since then...nothing. They've been withering on the vine with a 24/7 trimulcast of V-me and have been ignored completely while they wait for Daystar to be approved to take them over. Talk about wasting away the $3 million sale price, and everyone in Central Florida happily moving to WUCF without as much of a shrug to WMFE.
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Look KOCE was supposed to be flipped to Daystar 10 years ago. KOCE was supposed to be a PBS Telecourse station like KCSM. But fast forward 10 years KOCE is a flagship PBS station in the market and KCET is in the toilet like KCSM.
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I forgot where I read it at, but Daystar was ready to take over KOCE, when the station's owners at the time changed their mind about selling to them. Daystar sued, but an agreement was made that Daystar must be made as a subchannel to KOCE. If KCET does get the "For Sale" sign, maybe Daystar wil try to buy them, & possibly succeed this time around. I personally would rather not see them getting a non-commercial license (or even a commercial license), but Daystar prefers non-commercial licenses (TBN overall prefers commercial licenses). Also, it seems that PBS & evangelists networks (Daystar & TBN as examples) are the only networks that succeed on non-commercial licenses, while independents often fail, due to restrictions on what can be broadcasted on non-commercial licensed stations. Maybe the Los Angeles market doesn't need 4 non-commercial stations. The Chicago market was once allocated 5 non-commercial licenses, but only 3 were ever claimed (2 licensed to Chicago & 1 licensed to Gary, IN). The ones licensed to Kankakee, IL & Dekalb, IL were never claimed & eventually deleted. Chicago barely gets by with 3 PBS stations, even though 1 serves NW Indiana, & that one doesn't cover the entire market for money reasons, but otherwise can locate their transmitter in Chicago (analog initially couldn't, but the digital channel always could). It was amazing the Los Angeles market was even able to handle 4 PBS stations until 2010.
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
I'm more bemused by the commenter at the Times' website who complains about Juan Williams being fired from PBS and then praises the new direction at KCET. Juan Williams never worked for PBS.

Right now on KCET they're airing E/I: "Hands on Crafts for Kids", a program which I believe I've seen on Create. My local PBS station is currently running a rerun of "Nature," and has local and regional public affairs programs for the next two hours.

The only programs I see on KCET's schedule that's even moderately interesting are "Travel with Rick Steves" and "Al Jazeera English News" both of which aired before 7 this morning.
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Juan Williams I thought he was fired by NPR because of his comments on Fox News.
 
It sounds like donations are down about 15 million, maybe more, since leaving PBS. All so they could save the $7 million they were paying to PBS. Looks like a lose-lose, and hopefully whomever made that decision is on the unemployment line.
 
recto101 said:
Juan Williams I thought he was fired by NPR because of his comments on Fox News.
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Key word there being "NPR" which is not the same as "PBS." :)

- Trip
 
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