Los Angeles Radio Ratings: June 2023

[davideduardo]

Saul might have to change formats if billing doesn't Improve

Go Country is one of the United States' 200 highest billing stations... out of over 10,000 commercial stations.

It has no debt. It owns its own building and is family run.

It is among the top 3 or 4 most listened to country stations in the whole country.

Radio rates are mostly based on audience delivery.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Go Country is one of the United States' 200 highest billing stations... out of over 10,000 commercial stations.

It has no debt. It owns its own building and is family run.

It is among the top 3 or 4 most listened to country stations in the whole country.

Radio rates are mostly based on audience delivery.

Interesting stats David.

Thx

 

[radio128]

KIIS heavily increased the gold and shot up in the March book. The April book was pretty good too. Then they went back to the regular format and their ratings at least the 6+ are down to 2022 levels. Maybe they should add more gold but how many times can one get excited hearing "Get Low." The most played song on KIIS is "As It Was" by Harry Styles. That song came out in March 2022 so KIIS has been playing it in heavy rotation for 16 months. It seems that whenever an interesting new song comes out KIIS plays it for about two weeks and then drops it. I'm referring to the song by Kane Brown. Also "Heaven" by Niall Horan and "Never Ending Song" by Conan Gray.

 

[BLA]

Those companies are not in acquisition mode. Look for the buyer to be a Christian or ethnic operator.

Notwithstanding anything else (posted above), it seems to me that the Levine's have no reason at all to take 105.1 out of "competition" by offering it to a religious operator or a programmer of non-english speaking formats.

 

[davideduardo]

Notwithstanding anything else (posted above), it seems to me that the Levine's have no reason at all to take 105.1 out of "competition" by offering it to a religious operator or a foreign speaking programmer.

At the risk of going to woke here, English is the current foreign language in California. For about 300 years prior to Southern California becoming part of the USA, it was part of Spain and, briefly, Mexico.

The city is really "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula"

Even if it seems pedantic, understanding the heritage of the city helps understand why the culture, mood, and overall nature of Los Angeles is different from, let's say, St. Louis.

 

[BLA]

At the risk of going to woke here, English is the current foreign language in California. For about 300 years prior to Southern California becoming part of the USA, it was part of Spain and, briefly, Mexico.

The city is really "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula"

Even if it seems pedantic, understanding the heritage of the city helps understand why the culture, mood, and overall nature of Los Angeles is different from, let's say, St. Louis.

Interesting observation, however, English is the cash language and the common language of the republic. L.A. and CA is wonderfully eclectic, but still ... What was- was ... and who knows about three hundred years from now. I don't think that our now heavily populated California (Note: in 1852 it had four electoral votes) will change language or governments soon. It's too vital to the whole of the U.S. F.Y.I. also, I am a bit left of center and would hate to live in Missouri or anywhere else but here.

Back to radio ratings by way of acquisitions mode as seen above, I think only Spanish speaking stations can make real money on F.M. in L.A. How many of them, I don't know. But this business of spinning off stations to avoid a head-to-head competition is understandable but unfortunate. Right now, I can't see this kind of "Never hand a loaded gun to a competitor" strategy, happening anytime soon due to ownership caps as was the case with 100.3, a forced divestiture. A little religion goes a long way, too much of it might have the effect of "labeling" the F.M. band as less preferable to the average consumer of entertainment and public information. It's o.k. and even welcome up to a point. Nothing against small 'r' religion on radio, still some of it now is just too damn political.

The one-to-many radio platform needs only one band, F.M. It should be opened up at the lower end and these telecom companies have taken too much spectrum from T.V. for that to happen, A topic for another thread though.

 

[davideduardo]

The interesting story is how KBUE went from #1 in 25-54 in May to #17 in June.n That is a 5.2 down to a 2.9, and an even lower 2.2 in Week 4 of the book.

Nielsen had to intervene with KBUE and its affiliated stations by unlinking the streaming and making other adjustments:

Nielsen has determined that certain Total Line Reporting (TLR) station combinations in the Dallas-Ft. Worth, Houston-Galveston, and Los Angeles markets were ineligible for TLR in the June 2023 survey period. As a result, Nielsen is reporting those station combinations separately in the June 2023 Dallas-Ft. Worth, Houston-Galveston, and Los Angeles Radio Market Reports that release today, Tuesday, July 11th, as scheduled.

Ineligible TLR Stations Combinations

• Dallas-Ft. Worth
  
  • KBOC-FM and KBOC-IF, KNOR-FM and KNOR-IF
• Houston-Galveston
  
  • KQQK-FM and KQQK-IF, KTJM-FM and KTJM-IF
• Los Angeles
  
  • KBUE-FM and KBUE-IF

Nielsen does not show the KBUE stream with any share at all in the LA book.

 

[pjc1961]

>>>Nielsen does not show the KBUE stream with any share at all in the LA book.<<<

From RadioInsight's grid for June '23 (age 6+ overall):

Stream:
Ja_F_M_A_M_June__Station_______________________Name__________________________Format______________________Owner______________Cume_

*

*

*

*

*

1.0

KBUE-FM Stream

Que Buena 105.5/94.3

Regional Mexican

Estrella Media

65,300

Over the air:
_Jan__Feb_Mar_Apr__May_June__STATION_______NAME_____________________________FORMAT_________________OWNER____________CUME_

2.7

3.2

4.0

4.0

4.0

2.2

KBUE-FM

Que Buena 105.5/94.3

Regional Mexican

Estrella Media

506,700

Thus, combined share for June is 3.2 - equal to February '23 over-the-air only -or- over-the-air-plus-stream, before its stretch of 3 consecutive 4.0 months.

 

[davideduardo]

>>>Nielsen does not show the KBUE stream with any share at all in the LA book.<<<

From RadioInsight's grid for June '23 (age 6+ overall):

Stream:
Ja_F_M_A_M_June__Station_______________________Name__________________________Format______________________Owner______________Cume_

*

*

*

*

*

1.0

KBUE-FM Stream

Que Buena 105.5/94.3

Regional Mexican

Estrella Media

65,300

Over the air:
_Jan__Feb_Mar_Apr__May_June__STATION_______NAME_____________________________FORMAT_________________OWNER____________CUME_

2.7

3.2

4.0

4.0

4.0

2.2

KBUE-FM

Que Buena 105.5/94.3

Regional Mexican

Estrella Media

506,700

Thus, combined share for June is 3.2 - equal to February '23 over-the-air only, before its stretch of 3 consecutive 4.0 months.

I did not have streams activated. In 25-54, KBUE went 5.2 to 2.9 in 6 AM to Mid share, and the stream from zeros to 1.1. AM Drive on the stream beats the trimulcast by nearly half a share point.

 

[CTListener]

Even if it seems pedantic, understanding the heritage of the city helps understand why the culture, mood, and overall nature of Los Angeles is different from, let's say, St. Louis.

And yet in St. Louis, or anywhere else in Missouri, which was part of the Louisiana Purchase from France, there is not a trace of French culture, mood and overall nature.

 

[CTListener]

The one-to-many radio platform needs only one band, F.M. It should be opened up at the lower end and these telecom companies have taken too much spectrum from T.V. for that to happen, A topic for another thread though.

No receivers available for that frequency range, no incentive for manufacturers to produce them, no one's buying radios anymore and few stores are stocking them. The broadcasters who set up shop on an expanded FM band would quickly go out of business, and not even paid programming would save them because there'd be no buyers. This topic has been beaten to death in many previous threads.

 

[davideduardo]

And yet in St. Louis, or anywhere else in Missouri, which was part of the Louisiana Purchase from France, there is not a trace of French culture, mood and overall nature.

And at the time of the Purchase, there must have been somewhere between 10 and 20 French nationals in Missouri. In California, when the US took possession, there were tens of thousands of Spanish / Mexican residents.

 

[BLA]

No receivers available for that frequency range, no incentive for manufacturers to produce them, no one's buying radios anymore and few stores are stocking them. The broadcasters who set up shop on an expanded FM band would quickly go out of business, and not even paid programming would save them because there'd be no buyers. This topic has been beaten to death in many previous threads.

I am sure it has been beaten ... Yes, most probably too late for a transition period. In theory Congress could authorize and instruct FCC or other agency to mandate new receiver capability viz viz car receivers or all receivers as they did and do with television. But that's probably moot here. Funny, the latest proposal in Congress seeks to get the Transportation Department involved with car radios regarding A.M.

The F.M. band is still a very exclusive 'estate'. Exclusive in the sense that most of the best signals are licensed to a few operators, and it is very cluttered.. How exclusive it remains in the eyes of consumers is a big question. No more consolidation or raising caps, please. Broadcasting is just that. The internet will never be broadcasting. The internet will never be a common single gathering place to large numbers. It's enough that stations must contend with podcasts and other new aural things going forward. I would think that eventually people will tire of their own personal entertainment universe, but it will still cut into radio. Terrestrial radio must survive long term IMHO. May it be.

 

[michael hagerty]

The city is really "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula"

Let's hear the Johnny Mann singers put THAT in a legal ID!

 

[michael hagerty]

Even if it seems pedantic, understanding the heritage of the city helps understand why the culture, mood, and overall nature of Los Angeles is different from, let's say, St. Louis.

Look at my profile pic. They don't get any whiter than me (well, okay, Zuckerberg and Conan O'Brien)---and I have always said L.A. was Zorro's hometown long before it was mine.

 

[michael hagerty]

People keep talking about Saul Levine's son Michael like he's a kid who has to figure out what happens when Dad dies. Michael's at least in his forties, maybe his 50s---Saul is 96.

He's grown up in radio, been in some capacity at KKGO for at least 13 years, and has been station manager and PD for the last seven. Michael's the one who chose Country for KKGO.

And beyond Michael, there's his sister Stephanie, who's been General Counsel for Mt. Wilson Broadcasters for 20 years and station manager for KKJZ for 16.

The question isn't what happens when Saul dies. The question is what happens when Michael and Stephanie decide to retire.

 

[michael hagerty]

And yet in St. Louis, or anywhere else in Missouri, which was part of the Louisiana Purchase from France, there is not a trace of French culture, mood and overall nature.

What David said---and also because Missouri does not share a border with France.

 

[CTListener]

What David said---and also because Missouri does not share a border with France.

Nor does Louisiana, but I realize that the French vibe there had its origins in Canada, and got there largely by boat. And that influence is long gone by the time you reach Shreveport.

 

[TheBigA]

The question isn't what happens when Saul dies. The question is what happens when Michael and Stephanie decide to retire.

I agree. That's why I predicted the format will stay the same for at least ten more years.

 

[michael hagerty]

Nor does Louisiana, but I realize that the French vibe there had its origins in Canada, and got there largely by boat. And that influence is long gone by the time you reach Shreveport.

And California's very different. The treaty ending the Mexican war was 45 years after the Louisiana Purchase. As David says, far more people of Spanish and Mexican heritage chose to stay after it became part of Los Estados Unidos.

And Mexico owned all of California, whereas the French only had the Mississippi River, the land alongside it and New Orleans. Spanish place names can be found as far north as Los Molinos, 635 miles north of the border with Mexico, though they are more common from Santa Rosa and Sacramento south (550 and 530 miles from the border, respectively).

Fold that in with the fact that Downtown Los Angeles is (traffic permitting) a two-hour drive from the Mexican border and it's little wonder that the culture is still very influenced by its Spanish and Mexican heritage.