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Los Angeles + Riverside-San Bernardino Radio Ratings: January 2015

As for my negative reaction to hearing Leo Sayer and an uptempo Paul McCartney song on KMPC, that probably is because of all the years I spent listening to Gary Owens on that station. After so many years of hearing Frank Sinatra, Peggy Lee, Steve Lawrence, Peter Nero, Ed Ames, Percy Faith, Tony Bennett, Count Basie and Nat "King" Cole, I guess I just assumed the traditional MOR format would continue. Just for fun---although I can't honestly say it was really fun---I pulled out a KMPC playlist at random. It was from June of 1970 and among the usual MOR artists were Mark Lindsay, Ray Stevens, Bobby Sherman and Chicago! Apparently the traditional MOR format didn't last as long as I thought!

Well, the addition of hit singles (one or two an hour as I recall) to the MOR music didn't really constitute a format change. And if you go back and look at how those songs charted on the Billboard Easy Listening chart, you'll find they did quite well.

To me, the real change (from MOR to Adult Contemporary) came in 1973 when the bulk of the music switched from album cuts by old-line artists like Sinatra to current hit singles with the really heavy stuff left out. But that was pretty much a universal shift within the industry. Truth of the matter was those artists weren't selling all that well and stations moved to embrace the new generation of adults.
 
As far as I know Rush was on a station in Sacramento (KFBK?) when the former head of ABC's defunct talk network decided to try syndicating Limbaugh and Dr. Dean Udell (a medical advice program) in 1988.

They had been going for a few months and had a small cluster of stations when the Leykis/Edwards food fight over Simon Rushdie et all broke out and Edwards quit KFI. This created a morning opening on KFI for Rush. I don't believe Limbaugh was on any other stations concurrent with KFBK before 1988.
 
As far as I know Rush was on a station in Sacramento (KFBK?) when the former head of ABC's defunct talk network decided to try syndicating Limbaugh and Dr. Dean Udell (a medical advice program) in 1988.

They had been going for a few months and had a small cluster of stations when the Leykis/Edwards food fight over Simon Rushdie et all broke out and Edwards quit KFI. This created a morning opening on KFI for Rush. I don't believe Limbaugh was on any other stations concurrent with KFBK before 1988.

I think Rush was carried by 670 AM KWNK for a little while before KFI (maybe K.M. can speak about this)
 
I think Rush was carried by 670 AM KWNK for a little while before KFI (maybe K.M. can speak about this)

Already did, about eight posts above yours.
http://www.radiodiscussions.com/sho...January-2015&p=6034593&viewfull=1#post6034593
Includes link to Los Angeles Times article where I complained about the way Rush's syndicator treated us.

Prior to the KWNK carriage, there was no Rush in L.A., on KFI or anywhere else. The Edwards resignation was what caused the hole in the schedule, but Art's recollection is wrong on the timing as that blow-up happened the last week of February, 1989, not in 1988:
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-03-06/entertainment/ca-74_1_geoff-edwards
 
In 1984, KFBK midday host Robert Downey Jr. was forced to resign after he referred to a City Councilman as a "Chinaman." So much for freedom of speech in the United States of America! Anyway, Downey was replaced by Rush Limbaugh. In 1988, former ABC Radio vice-president Edward McLaughlin brought Rush to New York and gave him a one-month tryout on WABC. McLaughlin formed EFM Media Management to syndicate Rush's program, which debuted on August 1, 1988, and was initially heard on 56 stations. But 1987 was the year when the FCC repealed the Fairness Doctrine which had required radio stations to present "opposing viewpoints." I'm guessing that a few station managers who took note of Rush's success expressed a desire to carry his conservative program from KFBK, since they would no longer be compelled to carry a three-hour liberal program which offered opposing viewpoints. I don't know why Rush didn't go into syndication in 1987. Did neither he nor KFBK management consider it?

McLaughlin's connewction with Rush is detailed at http://www.ctka.net/limbaugh.html
 
Yikes! Not only did I say Robert instead of Morton, I didn't notice that I had bumped the "w" key so "connection" became "connewction." This is enough to give me a conniption! Yes, it was Morton Downey Jr. who was at KFBK. I vaguely remember him also working in San Diego, possibly at KOGO or KDEO.
 
I'm guessing that a few station managers who took note of Rush's success expressed a desire to carry his conservative program from KFBK, since they would no longer be compelled to carry a three-hour liberal program which offered opposing viewpoints.

They were never required to run a three-hour liberal program if they ran a three-hour conservative program, just that they aired opposing viewpoints. (Equal time applies to candidates running for office)

But, stations also had to give time to organizations and activists who objected to what was presented on the air. I think that was the real problem... somebody objects to Rush and wants to be on the air, somebody objects to the liberal show, somebody else objects to the person who objected to Rush, six somebodies object to Rush, etc.

It didn't have to be equal time and I think the station could refuse someone they didn't think was "responsible" but they would still have to deal with all the requests.

It was easier to avoid all controversy, stick to things like the recipe call-in show. Of course, a vegetarian could object to the beef roast recipe, I don't know if that would fall under the fairness doctrine? Probably not, but they still might want to go on to tout vegetarian diets.
 
Already did, about eight posts above yours.
http://www.radiodiscussions.com/sho...January-2015&p=6034593&viewfull=1#post6034593
Includes link to Los Angeles Times article where I complained about the way Rush's syndicator treated us.

Prior to the KWNK carriage, there was no Rush in L.A., on KFI or anywhere else. The Edwards resignation was what caused the hole in the schedule, but Art's recollection is wrong on the timing as that blow-up happened the last week of February, 1989, not in 1988:
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-03-06/entertainment/ca-74_1_geoff-edwards

OOps missed that, that's what happens when I am working and multi-tasking accessing this site :)
Yes I was working for a company at that time called PTS, Inc. KM you may know this company and/or the president of that company Mike Berkus who was doing business with KWNK those days (PTS closed in March 1993).
 
Yes I was working for a company at that time called PTS, Inc. KM you may know this company and/or the president of that company Mike Berkus who was doing business with KWNK those days (PTS closed in March 1993).

The name sounds familiar, but let's face it, it's been over 25 years since my KWNK ordeal. I can pretty much remember the weekday lineup if I try real hard, but weekend brokered programs and all that were (and still are) a blur.
 
Dick Whittington did mornings at KWNK in 1986. He'd play only one or two songs an hour and spend the rest of the time talking. Al Lohman was on KWNK for a few months in 1987 before he teamed with Gary Owens on KFI's morning show. I listened to Al quite a bit but I was dismayed that he didn't do any of his characters---no Ted J. Baloney, no W. Eva Schneider, no Roscoe Boscoe, nobody. I guess Al either could not, or would not, go back and forth between personas the way Phil Hendrie did. KWNK also carried Johnny Ortiz's boxing program and Chef Vern Lanegrasse's daily cooking show.
 
Dick Whittington did mornings at KWNK in 1986. He'd play only one or two songs an hour and spend the rest of the time talking. Al Lohman was on KWNK for a few months in 1987 before he teamed with Gary Owens on KFI's morning show. I listened to Al quite a bit but I was dismayed that he didn't do any of his characters---no Ted J. Baloney, no W. Eva Schneider, no Roscoe Boscoe, nobody. I guess Al either could not, or would not, go back and forth between personas the way Phil Hendrie did. KWNK also carried Johnny Ortiz's boxing program and Chef Vern Lanegrasse's daily cooking show.


Most of the jocks at KMPC only played six songs an hour. Sam with Lohman and Barkley on KFI until the format switch to Top 40. Al never talked to his own characters, he played them off Roger Barkley's straight man. No surprise he wouldn't attempt to do that solo.
 
KWNK also carried Johnny Ortiz's boxing program and Chef Vern Lanegrasse's daily cooking show.

The latter came during my brief tenure as KWNK's original talk format OM/PD.

Here is what I remember of the schedule from January, 1989:

6:00-9:00am - K.M. Richards Morning Show (interviews, features, news on hour/half-hour)
9:00-11:00am - Rush Limbaugh (live via satellite from WABC)
11:00am-Noon - Cooking With The Hollywood Chef (pre-recorded in KWNK studios most days, usually live one day each week, two repeats per week; my recollection is that Vern would come in, record one show in the morning, do a live show that day which was also recorded for repeat airings, then recorded a second show in the afternoon)
Noon-3:00pm - Dr. Laura Schlessinger (live from KWNK)
3:00-4:00pm - Sonny Block (investment guru, live from WOR via satellite)
4:00-7:00pm - Sally Jessy Raphael (ABC TalkRadio)
7:00-8:00pm - Sportsnight (local, with Randy Kerdoon ... his first gig in the L.A. market; he was also part of the morning show)
8:00-10:00pm - some national sports talk show that I can't remember the name of
10:00pm-1:00am - Sally Jessy Raphael replay (I cannot remember why we couldn't record Tom Snyder's program and play it back then instead)
1:00-2:00am - whatever Sun Radio Network was repeating in that slot ... Sonny Block, I think
2:00-6:00am - Sun Radio Network's morning news/features program (again, the name escapes me), which we carried simply because it was live to the east coast at that hour, which beat a taped replay of anything else

ABC Entertainment Network news at :00 all hours.

Weekends are when I really get fuzzy about the schedule, mainly because it kept changing. About six to eight hours per weekend were paid infomercials, including one Valley business trying to hawk those still-novel "PCs". Two Saturday programs that we had run prior to 1989 stayed on the schedule; one was a celebrity interview program with the inexplicable title "Dining With Arlene" and the second was a travel program. The hostess of the former, Arlene Wolff, had to make a major (for her) adjustment when we went all-talk; she had formerly just gone non-stop from 10:00am to noon but I decreed that the network news on the hour was sacred so she had to (gasp) back-time to the 11:00 ABC feed. Of course, by the second week she was ready to admit that the short break gave her a chance to stand up, walk around, and get a fresh cup of coffee and then praised my "brilliance" for creating that opportunity for her. She lasted the longest of any of the KWNK talk shows, finally departing in 1995 when 670 became a repeater (and origin point for Jim Rome) of XETRA in Tijuana. They later let her come back for a one-hour weekly program in a late afternoon timeslot.

I also remember carrying several of Sun Radio Network's weekend shows; one, which aired right before Arlene, was about pet care and another, on Sunday morning, was similar to NPR's "Car Talk". We also carried a Sunday evening program via satellite called "Family Talk" (or something like that) which was produced by a religious organization but was remarkably light on the Christian comments. There was also anywhere from four to eight hours a week of "The Best of Dr. Laura", with her insisting on choosing which hours of her live show re-aired; of course, she thought many more hours were worth it than we had holes in the schedule, which meant there was usually about 20 hours of tape sitting on the credenza in my office as a backlog.

ABC gave us an exemption to carry all the public affairs programs (even the ones that were on their own KABC and KLOS at the time) on Saturday and Sunday, provided we didn't air any at the exact same times as the other stations in the market and didn't air any later than 8:00am or before 11:00pm. I'm pretty sure that in 1989, that would have been the long-running "Perspective", Howard Cosell's weekend interview show, and Hal Bruno's Washington DC-based political news and commentary program. I recall that we cheated slightly by running all of them in a block overnight Saturday night in addition to the morning airings, and I also recall that ABC couldn't have cared less that we did.

One final memory: When EIB moved Limbaugh to KFI, we replaced him with Sun Network's flagship program "For The People", hosted by network founder Chuck Harder. I recall that being a three-hour program, compared to Rush being only two at the time, and I believe Vern Lanegrasse departed KWNK at that time (his "schedule" as noted above was becoming difficult to put up with). Harder is still around, having survived not only his network being bought out and his show unceremoniously dumped but he went on to stints on other networks until an IRS audit silenced him for a while around 2009; these days he is part of the TalkStar network's lineup, although he is on in the evenings now, rather than middays.

And I forgot (but am adding via an edit) that we had a five-hour block of old radio programs on Saturday nights.

If any of you are going to ask me other questions about KWNK, please phrase them in a way that will jog my memory as a quarter-century has passed and I don't remember a lot of the little details anymore.
 
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