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Lousy formats in O. C.

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oasisrulz

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Living in Philly I would occasionally hit Point Pleasant and usually go to the Ocean County Mall in the 90's with my powerful Grundig Yachtboy. Its been years since I have been there, but yesterday I was back in the area and in the OC mall I tried to pull in something Alternative. G is gone, the Rat stinks, I mean really stinks, 10 minutes of commercials followed by the predictable Aerosmith and some stupid comedy bit at 5:30 and the worst yakking jocks, they were great when they first signed on, not now. No K-Rock, Da Buzz 105 is history, NEW-FM blown up, I think PLJ was Alternative back in the 90's also, there was so much Alternative in the mid 90's in the area. There is nothing to listen to now, local or distant, except for the Philly rockers, RXP/ZXL jokes and JSE is unlistenable How can this be in an area where Alternative, Metal, Grunge, Punk, Hard Rock is all over the place, you can see the young people enbracing this music, but nothing on the dial. I had to resort listenting to the Hawk which did incorporate some 90's grunge in the mix, eg. Nirvanna....Its sad in Ocean County.....for the Rock lover....who programs out that way are they out of touch....
 
Oh give me a f'ing break.

K-ROCK, Da Buzz 105 and NEW-FM were all NYC stations that didn't give a rat's a$$ about Ocean County.

Da Buzz 105 didn't even reach 1/2 of Ocean County, 104.9 wipes out 105.1, so most people didn't even notice it left 'nor did they notice Power 105 sign on.
NEW-FM was un-listenable in much of the county due to WJSE which causes interference as far north as Barnegat and WMGK which causes interference in Jackson/New Egypt.
Until about 3 years ago G-Rock didn't reach Ocean County 'nor did G-Rock know Ocean County existed. 106.3 was "The Shore" and later "The Breeze" in Ocean County.

WMMR covers Ocean County with rock ranging from Van Halen to Metallica to Green Day to Seether.
WYSP covers Ocean County with rock hist from the past 20/30 years.
WRFF covers Ocean County with new & classic Alternative Rock.
WRAT also covers the Northern 1/4 of the county
WZXL also covers the Southern 1/2 of the county
WJSE also comes in in Tuckerton, Little Egg Harbor, Eagleswood, Beach Haven, Ship Bottom, Stafford Township and Long Beach Township.
WRXP covers the Northern 1/2 of the county with Alternative Rock.
Ocean County's also fortunate to receive one of the few Adult Alternative stations in the country, WXPN.
WMGM, WMGK & WCHR-FM blanket Ocean County with Classic Rock and WAXQ also covers the northern 1/2 of the County.

Or maybe you meant that MONMOUTH COUNTY, or NEW YORK CITY or NORTH JERSEY has no rock radio?

Or maybe you can try coming around the shopping areas in Stafford Township (we have a Best Buy/Kohls/WalMart/Lowe's/Target/KMart/TJMAXX/PetSmart/etc.) where we get more than a dozen rock stations including TWO Alternative Rock stations - and neither one is NEW YORK's WRXP.
 
JerseyShor said:
Or maybe you can try coming around the shopping areas in Stafford Township (we have a Best Buy/Kohls/WalMart/Lowe's/Target/KMart/TJMAXX/PetSmart/etc.)

I was walking through Best Buy in Stafford Sqaure the other day, and all
I could get on my fillings was 105.7 The Hawk. What's up with that ? ::)
 
Tom McNally said:

I was walking through Best Buy in Stafford Sqaure the other day, and all
I could get on my fillings was 105.7 The Hawk. What's up with that ? ::)

Not WJRZ's 107.9 translator?? ;D
 
I think we're witnessing the dumbing down of America. Perhaps Mike Judge wasn't too far off the mark with his movie Idiocracy, judging by the fact that we have so many stations spewing out nothing but the most shallow pop songs. That may be a bit of an exaggeration, but there actually was a study that indicates there are legitimate facts that support this statement. Check out an article on it here: http://pitchfork.com/news/34733-sci...u-stupid-sufjan-and-radiohead-make-you-smart/

The fact is that Monmouth/Ocean no longer has a station in market that plays predominantly new rock, and Monmouth actually doesn't even receive any Active or Alternative Rock stations outside of the market either.

The area has WCHR, 105.7 The Hawk, your prototypical Classic Rock station, which it's worth adding has posted consistently weak ratings ever since it signed on despite a flamethrower of a signal. But there is something to be said about dedication, and Millennium's patience with The Hawk is to be commended - it's a trait that Press Communications obviously lacks with their incessant tinkering with G Rock before dropping it completely, and now WKMK changing the branding from "K 98.5" to "Country Thunder" or whatever.

There's also 95.9 WRAT, The Rat. This station used to be decent when it first signed on - it was operated by a different company and had a pretty balanced mix of old and new, and they weren't afraid to mix things up with some heavier rock as well. Now it's owned by Greater Media and they've turned into a safe, middle-of-the-road "Get The Led Out / Two For Tuesday" type heritage rock station (even though they don't do either of those features to my knowledge, but they still have that sound). Despite a change in ownership, they have performed an incredible feat in keeping almost the exact same DJ lineup in place since they signed on over 13 years ago ... my hat's off to them for that. However, the music is extremely bland ... no heavier rock bands that are either fairly new to FM radio (All That Remains, Hollywood Undead, Five Finger Death Punch) or well established (Slipknot, System Of A Down, or even Korn with the exception of some awful remixes obviously intended to make the songs sound tamer) ... no Alternative lean that would help them lure in some displaced G Rock listeners ... but lots of very cheesy rock (Van Halen, some '80s hair metal dreck), predictable Classic Rock moldy oldies (Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Ozzy), and only the safest, most bland new rock titles out there, including lots of soft ballads (Theory of Daughtry Saving Abel who lives 3 Doors Down to get his Nickelback). When your rock station can be described as safe, tame, and bland, maybe it's time for a change. The Rat needs to get its edge back.

Other stations: I like the spirit of WRXP and the personalities on the station, but the music is frustrating and all over the place. You can hear Cake into AC/DC into Elton John! This is definitely the kind of station that people will listen to for 15 minutes at a time, rather than locking it on at work or in the car. ... WRFF, Radio 104.5, has the whole "Jack" approach going. Minimal jock chatter, and a strong emphasis on the music. Disappointing for a music-intensive station, however, is the lack of depth to their playlist. It's about 400 songs a week, compared to roughly twice as many titles on RXP or G Rock. Plus, for an Alternative station, the selection of newer titles is slim ... maybe 20-25 songs, and among the tracks in "A" rotation are some Killers and Muse songs that are a few years old! I also call into question some of their not-so-Alternative selections - 3 Doors Down? The Fray? All-American Rejects? ... WMGK, WMGM and WAXQ sound almost exactly like The Hawk, nuff said ... WYSP is a slightly younger Classic Rock station that plays tons of cheesy arena rock, hair metal, and the most predictable '90s titles around. They sound not too far off from what K-Rock was before it died. ... WMMR has personality, and to its benefit and detriment, a broader playlist than its sister station WRAT. Swings very much toward Classic Rock though, with a side helping of some newer titles. And it also displays the common bond that links all Greater Media rock stations: too timid to play any heavier rock titles ... WJSE is much improved, having moved past its lackluster phase as "The Ace" and is now a solid new music intensive Modern Rocker. However, their coverage is miniscule, and always will be since they share a frequency with a New York City radio station with a signal that dwarfs it ... WZXL is a pitiful Rock station. No disrespect to The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, or Billy Joel, but they belong on a Rock station about as much as the Pet Shop Boys belong on a Country station. There's a place for all those acts, and that would be the myriad "lite rock" or "soft rock" stations.

In summary: Lots of the same old same old, which will leave a lot of rock fans frustrated. No outlet for the heavier rock bands out there (many of which are very popular, so someone must be buying their music and merchandise), and one Alternative station from Philly that pales in comparison to G Rock and doesn't cover Monmouth. I can't be alone in finding all of the options around here dull (while I like some aspects of WRXP, it comes in very poorly here, and 102.7 is nothing but static for me), and until something better comes along, the radio is only good for talk and sports as far as I'm concerned.
 
-Amen- now you know where I am coming from....when the RAT first signed on they were awesome, I could not believe WADB changed to the RAT, also there were so many Alternative/Hard Rockers coming in from the Apple it was hard to choose, in fact there was K-Rock's sister station, Z-Rock on 1480 which was Heavy Metal on an AM signal. There was also G-Rock and ZXL was so so much better. Living in Philly, it was refreshing to come into the Ocean County area to hear good Rock, Philly had poor rockers back then. But like I said, in the mall area the other day, the selection was horrible, the only good thing music wise was JSE, which was unlistenable in almost 80 percent of the area, and the RAT was so bad it was not worth the catch, bottom line; there is Rock starvation in Ocean and Monmouth counties which house so many rockers young and old with nothing to tune into on T-Radio.
 
Try living in Somerset and traveling to and working in north jersey....There is no rock station worth listening to...at least you have local stations in OC.
 
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