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Low or non charting songs that deserved better
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hornet61 said:
Actually, many sell for less than $25 on eBay...........................
http://cgi.ebay.com/BEATLES-LP-A-HA...0631501?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item35acb2474d
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TheFonz said:
Actually.....$12.95...because It is A capital Re-iessue...I said The U/A label was worth $100, I didn't say the U/A black label, because I assumed evryone knows the various re-issue labels . ...and the British Parlophone version goes $235......E-bay and Amazon prices are set by bid and availability.. My out-of-print Buck Owens #cd box set sometimes list at $145 on Amazon , then everyone and their grandmother lists theirs and drive the price down to $14.85. Then you have to factor Cover shape , no split sides , no record ring. I''ve been buying and selling at record shows for over 20 years, I usually pretty accurtate on Beatles stuff. My advise if you can get a U/A (black label not the beige re-issue, label) Hard Days Night in vg+ shape ..I'll give you a hundred for it all day. Oh and before any of you get real excited and start ordering e-bay and e-mailing me...the one Fonz is talking about is a U/A beige re-issue which indeed is worth $25 or less.
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hornet61 said:
I so busy responding..I didn't see the link and I went to e-bay fonz provided They have several U/A black label listed at well over $100....the one fonze listed is indeed a black label , but it is a starting bid price not a set price ("may sell for less than, $50", he said , I doubt that veryu seriously) , my off still stands find me a vg+, and I'll buy for $100, it must be VG+..which means not cover splits and no record ring, and the record must bre VG+ also.
johnbasalla said:
I agree that it's very pleasant cleverly-crafted pop music and I even have it on my iPod, but Mary Hopkin absolutely hated it. To the point where she's on record as saying having to record this type of stuff is what lead to her early exit from the business. IIRC she perferred folk music...or folk-flavored pop. Something she still performs....or did as of a few years ago....gratis at her local (pub) where she lives in Wales.
Re: Hoppin' in with Hopkin
IF "Knock, Knock, Who's There" would have been a world-wide smash, I wonder if she would have shared a dim view of it. I can see how she might not like these pure, ready-for-the-Top 40 songs, but she, and other artists are better off doing some of them in order to catch a hit which will drive people to the music the artist actually enjoys doing and wants people to hear. How many of these kinds of tunes was she forced to record? Did she hate "Goodbye", a very poppy followup single to "Those Were The Days" which was written by Paul McCartney?
IF "Knock, Knock, Who's There" would have been a world-wide smash, I wonder if she would have shared a dim view of it. I can see how she might not like these pure, ready-for-the-Top 40 songs, but she, and other artists are better off doing some of them in order to catch a hit which will drive people to the music the artist actually enjoys doing and wants people to hear. How many of these kinds of tunes was she forced to record? Did she hate "Goodbye", a very poppy followup single to "Those Were The Days" which was written by Paul McCartney?
hornet61 said:
Hornet: Too bad you missed this one...................it went for $9.99
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-Hard-Da...0945489?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item1c162a26d1
Re: Hoppin' in with Hopkin
She wasn't thrilled with it from the standpoint that it had taken her in a different direction from the folk-flavored "Those were the days". I base my comments on a London newspaper interview/profile that I read about 3-4 years ago. I don't recall her saying she "hated" it. She reserved that comment for "Knock Knock". Paul McCartney (who wrote "Goodbye") envisioned her as a mainstream pop singer. No doubt she had the chops to pull it off, but she had other ideas. IIRC, "Knock Knock" was something of a last straw for her.
The other part of the equation is she really didn't like the fast-paced life she found in the music biz. She's also a very private, low-key person. She wanted a more simple life as a wife and mom....and she wanted to be home in Wales. You can drive to Wales in less than two hours from London's Heathrow airport, but it's truly worlds away from the scene in London. So she opted for the simple life, and judging by what she had to say in the article, she never looked back and "lived happily ever after". There were pictures of her....still looking good in her 50s....in her garden and singing/playing at her "local".
As for Sir Paul, despite their creative differences, they're still friends. As she put it "We're still on each other's Christmas card lists", declining to elaborate further.
johnbasalla said:
She wasn't thrilled with it from the standpoint that it had taken her in a different direction from the folk-flavored "Those were the days". I base my comments on a London newspaper interview/profile that I read about 3-4 years ago. I don't recall her saying she "hated" it. She reserved that comment for "Knock Knock". Paul McCartney (who wrote "Goodbye") envisioned her as a mainstream pop singer. No doubt she had the chops to pull it off, but she had other ideas. IIRC, "Knock Knock" was something of a last straw for her.
The other part of the equation is she really didn't like the fast-paced life she found in the music biz. She's also a very private, low-key person. She wanted a more simple life as a wife and mom....and she wanted to be home in Wales. You can drive to Wales in less than two hours from London's Heathrow airport, but it's truly worlds away from the scene in London. So she opted for the simple life, and judging by what she had to say in the article, she never looked back and "lived happily ever after". There were pictures of her....still looking good in her 50s....in her garden and singing/playing at her "local".
As for Sir Paul, despite their creative differences, they're still friends. As she put it "We're still on each other's Christmas card lists", declining to elaborate further.
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yeah some get by cheap..that $9.99 lists no condition.....there are many listed in the $250 range ..my comment is $100 is a good Average for the stereo, black label VG to VG+ U/A artist label.. It is not set in stone just a minmum average, a good min ave at that....A sealed Butcher Cover Stereo is ave $40,000 because that's what is has gone for in the past.....now It could be Be Higher or Lower. Record collectors just have to set a bar..like I said before abundance drives down the price...hard days night is a favorite of collectors because it is a variant label...and Introducing the Beatle on VJ that is a whole other ballgame, you need a scorcard for that LP. My offer still stands, you buy a VG +, stereo black label U/A, for $10 , I'll give you $100 for it all day. I'm up to three original del-fi "Ritchie Valens" book sez thay are worth $200 to $300, I paid less than $50 each...conversely i just sold 3 garage band 45's to a guy in Sweden for $150..and just sold 14 local garage band 45's locally to a guy for $275. I lucked out on the Valens so cheap and I lucked out to sell those 45's, It's timing and availability. as a mattter of fact i also have three "ritchie Valens on the del-fi 80's re-issue, that i Damn near paid more than the originals, because they are sealed cut-outs...TheFonz said:
hornet61 said:
If you're talking about Del-Fi 1206, an original VG+ copy just sold on eBay for $15. Bottom line is, throw out that "book". Some poor guy might have paid $300 for the record 20 years ago, in the days before the internet. That will never happen today. Open up those records and play them..............enjoy them. You'll never be able to use them to fund your kids' education.
I once sold an Elvis EP 45 on Ebay for nearly $36! In prime mint condition, it would have gone for $250-$300! Because I knew that this record was in nowhere near good enough shape to sell for that price, I was quite pleased (and shocked!) to get $36 for it. The buyer was happy, too, because he submitted positive feedback for me.TheFonz said:
But you are correct in that most records aren't worth crap. I spent more than $36 on records that I ended up having to give away when I moved, because I didn't want to take them with me, and used record stores wouldn't even take them! :'( But they also didn't take the Elvis EP that I mentioned in the above paragraph.)
So, yeah, the books are a bit misleading.
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I want to go to your estate sale.....TheFonz said:
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firepoint525 said:
lets see if it was prime mint, it would have gone for $200-$300, which is information you got from a book or made it up....but you think books are misleading...then you bought more than $36 dollars that you ended giving away, gee, a whole $36 dollars. Now you are in a zone you know nothing about and shouldn't jump in like that and sound totally misinformed..You should stick to what you do best , respond to every post, after you looked it up in Wikipedia. you can't retort intelligently on record collecting (buying 45's at woolworth for 39 cents doesn't make you a record collector) until you have some experience at it...my first clue was there is no category Prime Mint...see your mistake was reponding "You Are Right All records are Crap" to the post by Fonze who likes to contradict me by citing examples from e-bay..record collecting is like anything else supply and demand , which constantly drives the prices up and down. The books are guide line, a place to start, just cause Fonz finds something on E-bay doesn't establish a price that will not change dramatically up or down. I am by no means an expert, but I am experienced enough, and have bought and sold more than $36 worth, for years, to recognize fact from fiction. And the price guides from Osbourne, Gold Mine and others are not misleading if you know how to use them.
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I actually do better on Craigs list .....e-bay is too much work, and Craigs list is just as fast, and if you know what you are doing it allows you to recognize the real buyers from the lowballers and the casual collectors,and most importantly the scammers.. Don't devalue a persons knowledge and their assets by what you see bought and sold by others. you don't know the condition, the demand whats hot, whats not, and speak from experience not Google. And yes I am a record collector, cd Collector , reference book collector and anything else that has to do with music. And I have programmed two Oldies stations and one very successful Internet station with these collections. Listing you collection for 90% of its book value is not how it works.. and you are right lets not argue this point anymore..it's getting a little one-sided.TheFonz said:
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