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Lufkin/Nacogdoches Fall Book

GAP continues it's success in the market with the release of the Fall ratings.

KICKS continued dominance as the #1 country station since 1990
KSML Hispanic mainstay
KTBQ nice book (again)
KSFA great election bump
KBOG out of the box nice debut
KISX, KTUX (GAP Tyler and Shreveport) strong showing
KYBI took a nose dive
KJCS continues its spiral
KVLL weak book
KIOC-Big Dog in Beaumont first timne showing

see the rest here http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/lufkin-nacogdoches

thoughts?
 
It amazes me that after their brief stint of success in the late 90s, management of KJCS continues to tolerate their slow decline. It's as if they don't even try anymore.
 
KJCS Moving Again!?

Does anyone know what's going on with KJCS? I was looking into a position there and it's my understanding that the studios are about to be moved. Does anyone have info?
 
I heard that there was some sort of agreement with Yates Broadcasting, and that they were going to move in with them on Calder Square. If that's true,,it's going to be a tight fit over there. This sounds like a recurring theme. Bill signs an agreement with "X" and lets them run the show for a year or whatever, then takes the station back at the last minute. It sounds to me like he's just trying to build capitol to keep that dog and pony show going over there. With these "agreements" he doesn't have to pay overhead,,,which saves him money. I have nothing to prove any of these statements, I'm just speaking from experience. What do you think Yak?
 
It's really sad to see a once-great station come to this. I worked at KJCS in the 80s under owners Hill and Rucker, and it was a serious money-making enterprise with a lot of great jocks. Many of them are now working in Houston and other big markets. It was never the same after H&R sold it to that group from Bryan-College Station in 1987, fronted by Ben Downs.

One of the first things they did was to let me go. Nicest thing they ever did for me. I'm still thanking them for it. It forced me to move back to Houston where I am still working, and deliriously happy about that.

So sad when hacks like Vance take over and find themselves in over their heads. I've worked for people like him and believe me it's a nightmare. There's a name for stations suffering that fate. It's called Radio Hell.
 
All I know of the agreement between Yates and Vance is what was posted on these forums. Basically, the on-air operations are still separate, but the sales departments have joined forces. Having worked in both buildings, (I started as a board-op for KYBI/KUEZ/KRBA before crossing over to KJCS 'cause they offered me on-air time), I can tell you that neither company has a high regard for the other. It's only a matter of time before this unholy alliance blows up... or the sales staff starts dancing on tables at the company Christmas party. Oh, wait, they're not allowed to have company parties anymore. hehe.
 
Part of me wants to go back and fix KJ 103's programming and ratings woes. I know what it takes to set a solid music rotation, station imaging, plus techniques that drive up TSL, Cume and response to the advertisers' spots (heck, I'm doing it now, in the midst of a recession, my billing is UP!). On the other hand, I know I wouldn't be given the budget needed to hire the airstaff that I wanted, plus I kind of feel like that staff wouldn't want to work for me anyway. So, I've just got to sit back and watch the station that gave me my first on-air gig fade away into nothingness.
 
musicsweep said:
I've just got to sit back and watch the station that gave me my first on-air gig fade away into nothingness.

When did you start your career there? I started there in 78 and left in 86.. just before the stations were sold as described by filioscotia.... in fact he was my newsguy in the mornings back in the day.. When I left we (KJCS) were always on top and KYKS in Lufkin was always chasing us... It was a good market that did sent alot of jocks and engineers too to the Houston area as well as DFW. Many of them, including me, are still hanging on in the business today.
 
1998.

KJCS had developed a very strategic programming approach and was in the process of catching up to KYKS in the ratings. I left for personal reasons. A year later, the bubble popped, the morning team left, the PD left, there was almost a 100% turnover, the programming became lax and the station gravitated toward mediocrity. Steve Rixx was hired, the station improved, but then he was fired, and the station declined.

There's a corelation between getting fired from KJCS and making it to the big markets. Jeremy Newman went straight from getting fired from KJCS to producing the morning show on KLOL, Rixx got fired and went on to KILT, Wes James got fired from KJCS and went on to San Diego. Maybe I need to go back to KJCS, get fired, then I'll be able to land a gig in the majors. Whaddya think? Can it work?
 
These are different times. Lot of people are getting laid off in the majors... good, solid people. Positions are being consolidated or eliminated. And these people are looking for work in smaller markets.
 
odd as it may seem, some of us in the "majors" wouldn't mind being back in Nac.. These days the money isn't that much different for most... and life is much more laid back. Not a bad idea if you could make it work.
 
As for me and the "majors," there are a few stations I've always wanted to work for... mainly WSM, KPLX, WBAP and KILT.

Back when I was younger, my dream was KLOL (which is no longer Rock 101) or KEGL. Rock radio and I have kind of grown apart, though.

For me, the dream is not about the money, but the experience (of course, I do want to make a living). Apart from working at a legendary heritage station like the ones mentioned above, I'm just as happy running my small-town AM.
 
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