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MacArthur Park

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mike704

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We have been talking about great bathroom records here and coincidentally my daughter wanted me to play the song tonight for a friend of hers. I did some research on the song and here is what I found:

In the summer of 1967, songwriter Jimmy Webb ("Up Up and Away") composed a 22-minute cantata that ended with a seven-minute coda called "MacArthur Park." He offered it to Bones Howe, who produced The Association, for possible inclusion on the group's fourth LP. Howe loved it, but the group did not want to give up half the album for Webb's project, so they rejected it.

Harris was an actor, not a singer. His performance on this was essentially "acting," as he read the lyrics with a great deal of drama. He recorded this shortly after starring in the movie Camelot. Some of his other films include This Sporting Life, Unforgiven, and Wrestling Earnest Hemmingway. He also played Professor Dumbledore in the first 2 Harry Potter movies.
Webb produced this for Richard Harris, crossing the Atlantic Ocean several times in the process.

Donna Summer recorded a disco version in 1978 that made it to #1 after it was released as a single. Her version was originally part of a 15-minute "suite." (thanks Brad Wind - Miami, FL, for above 4)
This runs 7:20. At the time, it was still very rare for radio stations to play songs longer than 3 minutes. "Hey Jude" by The Beatles came out shortly before this, and when it became a hit despite running 7:11, stations learned that audiences would stick around if they liked the song.
Harris died on October 25, 2002. He was 72.
Weird Al Yankovic wrote a parody of this called "Jurrasic Park" about the blockbuster movie of the same name. It is on his 1993 album Alapalooza.

Mike
 
> This runs 7:20. At the time, it was still very rare for
> radio stations to play songs longer than 3 minutes. "Hey
> Jude" by The Beatles came out shortly before this, and when
> it became a hit despite running 7:11, stations learned that
> audiences would stick around if they liked the song.

Not true. According to Whitburn "MacArthur Park" debuted on 5/11/68, "Hey Jude" didn't chart until 9/14...4 months later.
 
> > This runs 7:20. At the time, it was still very rare for
> > radio stations to play songs longer than 3 minutes. "Hey
> > Jude" by The Beatles came out shortly before this, and
> when
> > it became a hit despite running 7:11, stations learned
> that
> > audiences would stick around if they liked the song.
>
> Not true. According to Whitburn "MacArthur Park" debuted on
> 5/11/68, "Hey Jude" didn't chart until 9/14...4 months
> later.
>

I remember splicing the opening instrumental part of "Mac Arthur Park" to the middle instrumental part and then to the very end of the song to come up with a two-minute "up to news" instrumental that we called "The Bridge From Mac Arthur Park." It sounded pretty good!
 
>
>
> In the summer of 1967, songwriter Jimmy Webb ("Up Up and
> Away") composed a 22-minute cantata that ended with a
> seven-minute coda called "MacArthur Park." He offered it to
> Bones Howe,

BH was also involved with The Fifth Dimension.

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Re: MacArthur Park...The Other Park

Does anyone remember the song from around the same time about another park in LA? It was called Echo Park by Keith Barbour.

You would have to put a gun to the head of a deejay to get that played on an oldies station today.

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> Does anyone remember the song from around the same time
> about another park in LA? It was called Echo Park by Keith
> Barbour.
>
> You would have to put a gun to the head of a deejay to get
> that played on an oldies station today.
>
> But it is a very good song.
>
Yes, I have a copy of that...Bought it when it came out.... Its in a box in my garage! Haven't had my eyes on it in --- what -- 30 years?? On Epic Records I believe.

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This song is a classic example of why some of us like "real" Oldies. For us, the music went sour somewhere around 1965.
 
Re: MacArthur Park...The Other Park

I love to give Echo Park a spin now and then , an excellent song, blows away MacArthur Park, IMHO.How about Cherry Hill Park, while on the park subject?Played over and over, but I still love it.



> Does anyone remember the song from around the same time
> about another park in LA? It was called Echo Park by Keith
> Barbour.
>
> You would have to put a gun to the head of a deejay to get
> that played on an oldies station today.
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>> I remember splicing the opening instrumental part of "Mac
> Arthur Park" to the middle instrumental part and then to the
> very end of the song to come up with a two-minute "up to
> news" instrumental that we called "The Bridge From Mac
> Arthur Park." It sounded pretty good!
>

What a cool idea! I'll have to try that and see how it sounds.

MikeM
 
Re: MacArthur Park...The Other Park

> Does anyone remember the song from around the same time
> about another park in LA? It was called Echo Park by Keith
> Barbour.

I have a DVD of ABC's short-lived "Music Scene" program that includes a great performance of this song. BTW, wasn't Keith Barbour a member of the New Christy Minstrels? Several key figures of that group went on to greater fame, including Gene Clark, Kenny Rogers, Kim Carnes, and of course, Barry McGuire. But you already knew that, right? ;-)
 
Re: MacArthur Park...The Other Park

I think Echo Park may have had more passion that MacArthur Park. It would have been nice to see a live perfomance of that song. I imagine that it would have the best effect in a small initimate nightclub setting.

> > Does anyone remember the song from around the same time
> > about another park in LA? It was called Echo Park by
> Keith
> > Barbour.
>
> I have a DVD of ABC's short-lived "Music Scene" program that
> includes a great performance of this song. BTW, wasn't Keith
> Barbour a member of the New Christy Minstrels? Several key
> figures of that group went on to greater fame, including
> Gene Clark, Kenny Rogers, Kim Carnes, and of course, Barry
> McGuire. But you already knew that, right? ;-)
>
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MacArthur Park and The Other Parks

> Does anyone remember the song from around the same time
> about another park in LA? It was called Echo Park by Keith
> Barbour.
>
> You would have to put a gun to the head of a deejay to get
> that played on an oldies station today.
>
> But it is a very good song.

Never heard of it.

Personally, I'd prefer Palisaides(?) Park by
Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon to McArthur Park.

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1965

> This song is a classic example of why some of us like "real"
> Oldies. For us, the music went sour somewhere around 1965.

That's exactly when I stopped listening to rock & roll: 1965.
Before high school. (Then I listened to MOR mostly until we
got a classical station in '71.)

And the so-called oldies stations here in south Florida cut out
most or all of their pre-65 stuff a few years ago.

http://www.univox.com/radio/geater83.html

73s from 954

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Re: MacArthur Park and The Other Parks

> Personally, I'd prefer Palisaides(?) Park by
> Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon to McArthur Park.
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"Palisades Park"...one of the all-time best "songs-under-two-minutes".

Another park song that I don't think has been mentioned is "Itchycoo Park"
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