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Madden To Rtn?? The X?
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I find it interesting that non-competesa re enforceable when the employee is terminated, although I guess that is to avoid employess intentionally doing something to get fired to get around the contract.
With how strongly he's identified with hockey he's a good fit for the X since the games are there. But personally I'd not try to make him Scott Paulsen (comedy? Madden? Unless you're talking DVE comedy cuts...). I'd also think the salary he'd command would dictate that he do mornings and they find something else for Benz to do.
With how strongly he's identified with hockey he's a good fit for the X since the games are there. But personally I'd not try to make him Scott Paulsen (comedy? Madden? Unless you're talking DVE comedy cuts...). I'd also think the salary he'd command would dictate that he do mornings and they find something else for Benz to do.
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Not sure what salary he can dictate at this point with the bridges he's burned all over town. I hope they understand that the hysteria surrounding the Pens in the playoffs doesn't burn at that level all through the regular season. The hardcores will always be there, but the masses come when there's a championship in sight. It's not like the Steelers when they're having a big year and playing one big party game per week.
Interesting mix, a 48-year-old guy and cutting edge music. And I thought it was crazy when 50-year-old Dave Scott was playing bubblegum music in KQV's window in the '60s.
In my opinion, I think if the X hires Madden, his show will be 100% sports. Could the X eventually change it's format to all sports?Boss Radio said:
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Boss Radio said:
It's not like it would matter whether Madden knew diddly-squat about the music. It's radio. Someone else picks the songs, and you can't tell Madden's age from his voice. The few times I was stuck listening to him, he sounded like a smart-aleck kid who smoked too many of his old man's Lucky Strikes.
Oh please let this strictly be a rumor. Remember what happened to K-Rock once they did an all talk (or whatever it was supposed to be) in afternoon drive. This would be the end of The X and hopefully someone would pick up an Active Rock or Alternative format if The X does go all talk.
When I first saw this post ("Madden to RTN??") I was thinking the Retro TV Network on channel 11.3? WTF?? haha
If Madden does come to 105.9, I fear that the X as alternative may be dead. That will mean that Pittsburgh (once considered by most to be a "rock" town) will have the only way to hear even any new rock is from the one new song 'DVE plays into the ground for 6 months or from Star 100.7. Truly sad I must say.
Why do we need anymore FM stations playing AM formats? Sports, news-talk are geared for the geriatrics who still listen to AM. Wasn't The Zone and latter months of K-Rock a good enough test? Other than major sports PBP, leave the spoken word formats to AM, please...
If Madden does come to 105.9, I fear that the X as alternative may be dead. That will mean that Pittsburgh (once considered by most to be a "rock" town) will have the only way to hear even any new rock is from the one new song 'DVE plays into the ground for 6 months or from Star 100.7. Truly sad I must say.
Why do we need anymore FM stations playing AM formats? Sports, news-talk are geared for the geriatrics who still listen to AM. Wasn't The Zone and latter months of K-Rock a good enough test? Other than major sports PBP, leave the spoken word formats to AM, please...
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Madden has vast music knowlege, somewhat of a historian, but seems stuck in 80s hair bands -- he LOVES UFO...
Guess it's fashionable for the PC-ers to bash Madden, but he was [occasionally] a breath of fresh air in this stale market. 'Comedy' was not mentioned in the Smizak article, that's a personal opinion from his sometimes very funny "Ask Mark Anything" [filler] segments.
He didn't get those [relatively] huge ratings from listeners tuning out...
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Madden could do the X without the station flipping formats.
Look at WBCN in Boston with O&A on mornings and Toucher and Rich in the afternoon or WMMS with Rover mornings and Maxwell in the afternoon.
The major difference between Madden doing afternoons and Kidd Chris is Madden is a popular local host.
I think Madden could work out better than most of the boring Pittsburgh-hating X jocks.
Look at WBCN in Boston with O&A on mornings and Toucher and Rich in the afternoon or WMMS with Rover mornings and Maxwell in the afternoon.
The major difference between Madden doing afternoons and Kidd Chris is Madden is a popular local host.
I think Madden could work out better than most of the boring Pittsburgh-hating X jocks.
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DToTheJ said:
Huh?!?! Popular? Wasn't Madden on some AM station doing sports talk? What kind of ratings did his show usually pull overall? Maybe he was popular with the relative handful of people who listened to sports talk on AM. To most of the radio audience in Pittsburgh, he's "Mark Who?".
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Parttimer said:
How good? The guys I used to work with when I lived in Pittsburgh were almost all major sports fans. None of them listened to AM radio sports talk shows.
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My point is, on a national level, he's slightly more popular than Kidd Chris, given he's got some exposure nationally on ESPN Radio (and I think a little TV, too, not sure).
Also, the story about the comments Madden made that got him booted off 1250 (which I agree were not right) got a little national buzz. The story about the reasoning behind Kidd Chris' recent canning in Philadelphia - a Top 10 market - didn't even make it outside PA state limits.
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DToTheJ said:
What difference does it make for Pittsburgh ratings purposes if a few radio industry insiders in Dubuque, Iowa read the news reports about Madden's firing?
And what does having a little negative exposure have to do with being popular? Remember, being popular means that someone is both well-known and well-liked. The few people I have encountered who even know who Mark Madden is think he's a total jerk. That is being notorious, not being popular.
You may be right about being notorious and not popular (his own promos quoted him as saying "To know me is to hate me") but you're also underestimating his impact.
I am a sports talk junkie. Madden used to give his rating on his talk show all the time- reportedly an 8.7.
KDKA once did a promo that legitimately addressed Madden directly. It was something along the lines of "Sexism? Being Rude? Not our game plan! Listen to our sports talk show at 6 p.m. every night!"
On the other hand, I think the other radio personality you mention is so underwhelming that I legitimately, for the life of me, cannot remember his name.
And I believe he would be more notorious than popular as well.
Obviously, sports talk radio is foreign to you. But it is popular and successful.
But Madden was a much more known personality, both in Pittsburgh and nationally.
I am a sports talk junkie. Madden used to give his rating on his talk show all the time- reportedly an 8.7.
KDKA once did a promo that legitimately addressed Madden directly. It was something along the lines of "Sexism? Being Rude? Not our game plan! Listen to our sports talk show at 6 p.m. every night!"
On the other hand, I think the other radio personality you mention is so underwhelming that I legitimately, for the life of me, cannot remember his name.
And I believe he would be more notorious than popular as well.
Obviously, sports talk radio is foreign to you. But it is popular and successful.
But Madden was a much more known personality, both in Pittsburgh and nationally.
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Pratte4Life said:
The thing is, I used to listen to Myron Cope's show, and to a lesser degree to Stan Savaran, on a regular basis. I drifted away from listening to sports talk when it got too "insider", and when the sport talk stations started carrying national sports talk show. Frankly, I never cared much about the Pittsburgh Pirates. I definitely wouldn't listen to a sports talk show where the main topic of the day was the Detroit Tigers.
I also understand the concept of the character audiences love to hate. That explains why heels are so popular in pro wresting. But Madden isn't just a heel. He's a total jerk.
I was a huge Cope and Savran fan as well.
But I think that's the point. There was a tone earlier- "Who is this guy? He was just a sports talk show host!"
Go to the Tribune-Review website and you'll see a direct link to their tribute to Myron Cope almost a half a year after he passed.
And he was, of course, a sports talk show host.
Maybe this is because I am heavily interested in sports, but I've always felt sportscasters were the most popular broadcasters.
Play-by-play men become icons and sports talk show hosts often advance their locale's culture.
Madden's style was completely different than Cope's, so I can understand why you wouldn't listen.
But I think that's the point. There was a tone earlier- "Who is this guy? He was just a sports talk show host!"
Go to the Tribune-Review website and you'll see a direct link to their tribute to Myron Cope almost a half a year after he passed.
And he was, of course, a sports talk show host.
Maybe this is because I am heavily interested in sports, but I've always felt sportscasters were the most popular broadcasters.
Play-by-play men become icons and sports talk show hosts often advance their locale's culture.
Madden's style was completely different than Cope's, so I can understand why you wouldn't listen.
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Pratte4Life said:
It wasn't so much Madden's style being different from Cope's. It was that Madden was simply nasty. There are lots of people on the air with styles different from Myron's. There is no one with the same style as Myron Cope. But I can handle listening to talk hosts who are argumentative, smooth, rustic, annoying, condescending, and a dozen other adjectives. But the one I can't abide is pure and simple nastiness. Madden is the only media figure in town who I would really like hear had the stuffing beat out of him in a bar. And that's based on only hearing a few samples of his show, and reading some of the things he wrote when he was trying to pass himself off as the "only true journalist covering professional wrestling".
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