Hey guys, here is a question I have been thinking about. I am wanting to put 12-16 dance tracks on a CD and sell them. I pay BMI/ASCAP royalities already. What would it cost to do this if I am already paying royalities. Or is there more to this idea that I am not thinking about?
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Making A Dance CD
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Mid West Clubber
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You cant do it legally without going through the red tape.
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JohnParker
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This has nothing to do with ASCAP and BMI. You need to clear the usage of the songs with their respective owners. In this case, the label that owns the rights for the masters. It's also going to cost you a bunch of money for advances to pay the labels for their usage. My suggestion to you is that unless you are a well funded record label, forget this idea.
John Parker
John Parker
I wish that sort of thing would change. It would help a struggling dance artist to have people mix their songs on CDs and sell them. I wish it were as simple as letting the labels take say, 80% of the revenue from CD sales, divided by the number of tracks. So let's say if a CD has 10 songs, the label that owns the song on track 4 would get 8% of the revenue. And there would be a minimum price per CD produced so that you can't just give out CDs for free and pay the labels nothing.
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JohnParker
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Nick,
While that may be your wish, it's a crazy one. Why would a label that has invested tens of thousands to millions of dollars in an artist just allow anyone to profit off of it.
Now if it's a "struggling" artist and they own their own music, they are free to give it to whoever they want and that scenerio already happens.
If labels don't protect their copyright interests there won't be labels anymore. Instead there will be a free for all and artists won't make a dime. Labels have a hard enough time collecting on the legit comps sometimes.
jp
While that may be your wish, it's a crazy one. Why would a label that has invested tens of thousands to millions of dollars in an artist just allow anyone to profit off of it.
Now if it's a "struggling" artist and they own their own music, they are free to give it to whoever they want and that scenerio already happens.
If labels don't protect their copyright interests there won't be labels anymore. Instead there will be a free for all and artists won't make a dime. Labels have a hard enough time collecting on the legit comps sometimes.
jp
DO NOT sell ANY of the tracks available on the cd!
ONLY charge enough to cover the cost of replacing the metallic discs you're using and the time and work you put into it, and shipping & receiving if that applies, in addition to making sure you make it extremely clear to everyone precisely what you are doing. As far as wear and tear on all equipment used, that's mostly on you, unless you can somehow convince people to pay an additional fee for that, all to just receive a simple disc.
If they wish to send you a disc themselves and pay for shipping and handling both ways so you can put the songs on it at no charge, then that's just as sweet and dandy, too. In both situations, you're still on your own in regards to wear and tear, unless you've found some place with a repair discount so great that your wear and tear fee could be done for a reasonable amount and still cover the equipment.
ONLY charge enough to cover the cost of replacing the metallic discs you're using and the time and work you put into it, and shipping & receiving if that applies, in addition to making sure you make it extremely clear to everyone precisely what you are doing. As far as wear and tear on all equipment used, that's mostly on you, unless you can somehow convince people to pay an additional fee for that, all to just receive a simple disc.
If they wish to send you a disc themselves and pay for shipping and handling both ways so you can put the songs on it at no charge, then that's just as sweet and dandy, too. In both situations, you're still on your own in regards to wear and tear, unless you've found some place with a repair discount so great that your wear and tear fee could be done for a reasonable amount and still cover the equipment.
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Mid West Clubber
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I personally wouldnt make any CDs except stuff I pay for and give to my G/F for free... Bad idea to try and make money on other peoples tracks, unless of course you remixed and mixed them,,, and not playing them in their entirety... Im not even so sure how legal that is...JP would know.....
Mid West Clubber said:
I remember the countless bootleg CD's out there around 20001-2004 involving bootleg KTU cd's, SoundFactory v.s. Club Exit, and many others, that actual record stores would even sell them. Sue me, but I did purchase them bootlegs......I got 150 CD's for only 20 dollars because this record store was closing, and I knew the guy for 3 years and he played 967party.com in his store.
What's more illegal is making money of not only the artists on the CD, but using a radio station brand that no one from the station created.
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JohnParker
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They are both equally illegal as they violate copywrite protection laws. One for the logo and another for the music. Do people do this yes. Do people get caught, yes. Will you if you try it? Who knows. But is it worth the risk both financially and morally?
Also it is a myth that you can entitle something "For Promotional Use Only" and only charge for your expenses, time and labor. You are breaking the law as you do not own the material (even if you "remixed" it) and would be subject to local and federal laws. In NYS, bootlegging is a felony.
jp
Also it is a myth that you can entitle something "For Promotional Use Only" and only charge for your expenses, time and labor. You are breaking the law as you do not own the material (even if you "remixed" it) and would be subject to local and federal laws. In NYS, bootlegging is a felony.
jp
JohnParker said:
I'm sure it's also a felony in NJ, but I don't know how local cd stores haven't got busted. They will actually get the shipment (KTU bootlegs, SoundFactory, etc) and have dj promos as well being sold. I've seen creations of Sirius' The Beat bootlegs, BPM, and even a Pulse bootleg in North Jersey. Now that Party is on 87.7, who gonna dare to use their logo on that compilation.
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