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I need help to make a P15 am station work. Im located on the 3rd floor of a 3 floor apt building. I have antenna restrictions here which basically says if it wont fit on my balcony i cant have it. Anyone with experience in this situation
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> I need help to make a P15 am station work. Im located on the
> 3rd floor of a 3 floor apt building. I have antenna
> restrictions here which basically says if it wont fit on my
> balcony i cant have it. Anyone with experience in this
> situation
> please provide ideas, will be glad to answer any questions.
>

I'm in a similar situation, living in a townhome.

Something I've been looking into is the Isotron 200B. The antenna is of a "birdfeeder" design, which means that it doesn't look like a typical antenna. It actually has a kind of Haiku sculpture look.

The 200B uses resonant plates instead of ground radials, so a radial system is not needed. It's 103 inches in length so it is Part-15 compliant. Although the site says that it is rated for freq. between 1650-1799 khz, according to Mr. Bilal the 200B will easily go down to 1600.

http://www.isotronantennas.com/ambroad1.htm

Check it out and see if this would work for you.

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I wonder how big your balcony is. If it is longer then higher, you could put a rangemaster sideways. You are on the third floor so you have some built in height.
 
Balcony is roughly 4 feet long by 3ish feet. Height 7-8 feet high

> I wonder how big your balcony is. If it is longer then
> higher, you could put a rangemaster sideways. You are on the
> third floor so you have some built in height.
>
 
> You need to go with a Carrier Current radio station for this.>
 
Yeah i often thought about that, but that would be costly to do...

> > You need to go with a Carrier Current radio station for
> this.>
>
 
You should transmit as "low" on the AM dial (towards 540 Kilohertz) as possible, given what other stations are on the air in your area.

The "lower" on the AM dial you go, the further out your signal will travel with the same amount of power.

Also, do you live along or near to a salt-water shoreline?? Consider the geography of your area. The closer to salt water you get to transmit could help your signal as well.

If you live in a coastal town or city with a marina or yacht club, and if there is a decent-to-substantial population within a mile (or two) of the marina/yacht club, get in touch with the management there, and try to make arrangements to place your Part 15 transmitter (locked in a waterproof box or waterproof shed with the antenna protruding out of it; you'd provide both as well as install them) on a pier or slip that is out over the salt water. That will substantially improve your signal.

Find out how much power it would use, and offer to pay them a fee which will cover the costs of electric power to run your transmitter (since the power used to run it will be part of their electric bill, your fee will help them pay that part of the bill) as well as a small courtesy fee for giving you a small space on one of their slips or piers for this purpose.

Combine that with a signal on (or as close to) 540 Kilohertz as possible, and you will have a nice little Part 15 station. True, you'll have to purchase some sort of audio line to connect your studio with the transmitter, but you may be able to reach a larger area (and more people) this way.
 
> You should transmit as "low" on the AM dial (towards 540
> Kilohertz) as possible, given what other stations are on the
> air in your area.
>
> The "lower" on the AM dial you go, the further out your
> signal will travel with the same amount of power.
>
> Also, do you live along or near to a salt-water shoreline??
> Consider the geography of your area. The closer to salt
> water you get to transmit could help your signal as well.
>
> If you live in a coastal town or city with a marina or yacht
> club, and if there is a decent-to-substantial population
> within a mile (or two) of the marina/yacht club, get in
> touch with the management there, and try to make
> arrangements to place your Part 15 transmitter (locked in a
> waterproof box or waterproof shed with the antenna
> protruding out of it; you'd provide both as well as install
> them) on a pier or slip that is out over the salt water.
> That will substantially improve your signal.
>
> Find out how much power it would use, and offer to pay them
> a fee which will cover the costs of electric power to run
> your transmitter (since the power used to run it will be
> part of their electric bill, your fee will help them pay
> that part of the bill) as well as a small courtesy fee for
> giving you a small space on one of their slips or piers for
> this purpose.
>
> Combine that with a signal on (or as close to) 540 Kilohertz
> as possible, and you will have a nice little Part 15
> station. True, you'll have to purchase some sort of audio
> line to connect your studio with the transmitter, but you
> may be able to reach a larger area (and more people) this
> way.
>

I agree as for the characteristics of frequency but what about the losses in the Part-15 legal antenna system? I see this as a "Give and Take" situation and I believe one would lose more with the losses involved.. Just my $.02
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Im about 40 miles from the nearest shore line, dont see that working out.
I Most likely have to go the carrier current route.

> You should transmit as "low" on the AM dial (towards 540
> Kilohertz) as possible, given what other stations are on the
> air in your area.
>
> The "lower" on the AM dial you go, the further out your
> signal will travel with the same amount of power.
>
> Also, do you live along or near to a salt-water shoreline??
> Consider the geography of your area. The closer to salt
> water you get to transmit could help your signal as well.
>
> If you live in a coastal town or city with a marina or yacht
> club, and if there is a decent-to-substantial population
> within a mile (or two) of the marina/yacht club, get in
> touch with the management there, and try to make
> arrangements to place your Part 15 transmitter (locked in a
> waterproof box or waterproof shed with the antenna
> protruding out of it; you'd provide both as well as install
> them) on a pier or slip that is out over the salt water.
> That will substantially improve your signal.
>
> Find out how much power it would use, and offer to pay them
> a fee which will cover the costs of electric power to run
> your transmitter (since the power used to run it will be
> part of their electric bill, your fee will help them pay
> that part of the bill) as well as a small courtesy fee for
> giving you a small space on one of their slips or piers for
> this purpose.
>
> Combine that with a signal on (or as close to) 540 Kilohertz
> as possible, and you will have a nice little Part 15
> station. True, you'll have to purchase some sort of audio
> line to connect your studio with the transmitter, but you
> may be able to reach a larger area (and more people) this
> way.
>
 
uh, Joesph, are you sure?

> You should transmit as "low" on the AM dial (towards 540> Kilohertz) as possible, given what other stations are on the> air in your area.> > The "lower" on the AM dial you go, the further out your> signal will travel with the same amount of power.> > Also, do you live along or near to a salt-water shoreline??> Consider the geography of your area. The closer to salt> water you get to transmit could help your signal as well.> > If you live in a coastal town or city with a marina or yacht> club, and if there is a decent-to-substantial population> within a mile (or two) of the marina/yacht club, get in> touch with the management there, and try to make> arrangements to place your Part 15 transmitter (locked in a> waterproof box or waterproof shed with the antenna> protruding out of it; you'd provide both as well as install> them) on a pier or slip that is out over the salt water.> That will substantially improve your signal.> > Find out how much power it would use, and offer to pay them> a fee which will cover the costs of electric power to run> your transmitter (since the power used to run it will be> part of their electric bill, your fee will help them pay> that part of the bill) as well as a small courtesy fee for> giving you a small space on one of their slips or piers for> this purpose.> > Combine that with a signal on (or as close to) 540 Kilohertz> as possible, and you will have a nice little Part 15> station. True, you'll have to purchase some sort of audio> line to connect your studio with the transmitter, but you> may be able to reach a larger area (and more people) this> way.> I'd like to see your results with this installation.<P ID="signature">______________
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