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Market #12,376 vs Market #32

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lfuss

Here's an e-mail that was sent to the GM on my station in Pago Pago, American Samoa:

"I just wanted to thank you and your radio station for broadcasting your programming on the internet. My husband and I have been listening to your station all weekend. We are listening to Charlie Tafuna right now. Our son is on the island of Savai’i serving an LDS Mission. Your station just seems to bring him closer to home. It is wonderful listening to the local weather and the advertisements from there. We live in the Desert Southwest and your station blows away anything we have around here. We live 150 miles from Las Vegas and listen to their programming. Thanks again for bringing your part of the world to us." LuAnn & Mel in Utah

And we're just a little bitty radio station on a little bitty island in the middle of the South Pacific.

LF
 
LF,

If this market is so bad, and you're so damn great. Why don't you sell some of your small market stations, ie in the middle of nowhere and compete with the big boys. Instead of knocking, and criticizing everything all these terrible stations here are do something about it. Please, Mr. Radio God show us how it is done! Actions speak louder than words. And nobody cares that you've worked in the majors 40 years ago. I'm sorry CBS, Clearchannel, or some other company didn't give you the postion you want. But, please get a life, and quit criticizing or if you don't like the Las Vegas markert do something about, or shut the hell up.
 
So I'm not entitled to have an opinion, huh? Sorry, but just pointing out the obvious - Vegas radio sucks. Even listeners know it.

If I had $20-30 million, perhaps I'd do something about it. But I'm just one guy, not Clear Channel.

LF
 
Well it works both ways. I know for a fact that there are stations in Las Vegas that get emails and phone calls saying "We love your radio station, it's so much better than than the stations where we live". I would guess that most stations that stream get that type of feedback.
 
OK, so why do so many radio people come to Las Vegas and say "geez, I didn't realize radio sucked so bad here?" Of all the radio people I know who have been here in the three years I've lived here, they've all said the same thing. Not once has anybody ever said "there are some really good radio stations in Las Vegas." Face it, as a whole, Vegas radio sucks! Any anybody who says otherwise doesn't understand what constitutes good radio.

LF
 
Pago Pago, American Samoa

Now THAT'S good radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Radio is a community product. The community dictates what is good and what isn't. Not people on this board. Period.
 
LVRadioguy said:
Pago Pago, American Samoa

Now THAT'S good radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Radio is a community product. The community dictates what is good and what isn't. Not people on this board. Period.
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Exactly! What might be "good" radio in my area of Southern California may not be "good radio" in Las Vegas, for whatever reason. Area demographics, area history, & other factors determine "good radio".
 
"sucks" and "good radio" are subjective terms. What some jaded radio person thinks sucks is good radio to many listeners.
 
I'm taking about basic radio stuff that they used to teach new people when they got into radio, like how to relate to listeners and not say stupid stuff like "all you people out there" (yes, I really heard that on KMXB). Now, they just pull anybody off the street who will work cheap and put them on-air. And the same goes for support positions like traffic - which explains why you'll hear things like two competing shoe store spots back-to-back on LV radio stations, or even an ad for a concert that was held three days ago. It's all about professionalism, and corporate radio does not foster professionalism. For some reason, it's worse here than in other markets.

LF
 
I would imagine the traffic department in Pago Pago, American Samoa, consists of 7 commercials, logged in by index cards.

As for phrases said on the air, I could definitely give you some horrible ones I've heard (and maybe said in a somewhat foggy haze)....way worse than anything heard on today's air.......from L.A., circa 1979.

Now I believe your phone is ringing in Pago Pago. It's the Bait & Tackle store changing their spot to "worms only, while supplies last" from "terms solely, while puppies fast".
 
LVRadioguy said:
I would imagine the traffic department in Pago Pago, American Samoa, consists of 7 commercials, logged in by index cards.

As for phrases said on the air, I could definitely give you some horrible ones I've heard (and maybe said in a somewhat foggy haze)....way worse than anything heard on today's air.......from L.A., circa 1979.

Now I believe your phone is ringing in Pago Pago. It's the Bait & Tackle store changing their spot to "worms only, while supplies last" from "terms solely, while puppies fast".
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That is a mean spirited comment... especially th e"puppy" remark.

American Samoa is a small market, but no smaller than, say, Traverse City, MI.

I have relatives who are Samoan and have heard the station. It is better than the norm for a station in a market that size. It is also local, fun and live, something we don't always see on the mainland.

Larry, with whom I don't always agree, is doing a fine job in a smaller market... better than some markets many times its size in most cases.
 
> I would imagine the traffic department in Pago Pago, American Samoa, consists of 7 commercials, logged in by index cards.

traffic is actually fully computerized with a full spot load round the clock. And they're smart enough to know not to run competitors back-to-back. There are no bait shops on the air.

Thanks David. It is a small market, but small markets don't always have to mean small minds (although they often do). We put forth the extra effort to utilize all the bells and whistles at our disposal so we can sound as good as possible.

As someone else said "good radio is good radio, regardless of the market size."

And no, we're not live. Everything except 6am-9am is voice-tracked. But it's done so well that even other radio people can't tell.

Larry
 
"Never talk to 'all you people out there'. Relate to your listeners one-on-one."

From the old RKO Radio jock manual. To those not old enough to remember, RKO had some killer Top 40 stations, including KHJ/Los Angeles, WRKO/Boston, CKLW/Detroit, and others.

LF
 
lfuss said:
> I would imagine the traffic department in Pago Pago, American Samoa, consists of 7 commercials, logged in by index cards.

And no, we're not live. Everything except 6am-9am is voice-tracked. But it's done so well that even other radio people can't tell.

Larry
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You fooled my relatives, who did a family reunion there a couple of months ago! Sounds like a nifty operation. Long plane flight, though.
 
I've known Larry for about 2 years and have also listened to 93/KHJ alot.

I must say, 93.1 sounds a helluva lot better then most anything I've heard in MS, AL, FL, CT or ND. The music is great and the announcers are even better. the website is wonderful.

Larry gets to own a wonderfully successfull and programmed radio station on a beautiful island, i couldn't imagine much better then that Larry.

You know the people that say KKHJ suck are just jealous they don't work there or own it............. I'd go to work for you anyday.
 
It is indeed a long plane ride. And I have the frequent flyer miles to prove it. But it was even longer when I was in Mississippi.

On another note, I left the house on Tuesday night to run some errands with my daughter. The radio was on KMXB. 45 minutes later as we got back in the car to go home, my 11-year old daughter said "isn't that the same song they played when we were on the way here." Indeed it was. Even kids notice the piss-poor programming. "Change the station", she said. I ended up on KCYE until the guy with the squeaky voice came on and then I had to change it again.

Wherever I've lived, I've always been a loyal listener to local radio stations. I never used the tape player or CD player in my car, but the time has come to get XM or Sirius. The stations in Vegas give me no reason to listen to them.
 
Larry:

Is you're daughter going to become a media mogul like you? Or is it the total opposite and she has no real interest in radio?
 
Meanwhile KMXB is the only large market HOT AC in the U.S that ranks #1. Hot AC struggles in several markets yet thrives in Las Vegas. I realize a lot of this has to do with the structure of the market (i.e no CHR/Pop), but also shows that you are far more hypercritical than listeners are.
 
One good book does not create a dynasty. And you were right when you said there was no CHR/Pop station to compete with KMXB. Nor is there any other flavor of AC other than Sleepy... uhm I mean Sunny.

At least they were smart enough to get rid of their overly-hyped once-an-hour 80's song. Everytime they did that, it sounded like a commercial for KSTJ.

But why do they NOT play certrain songs that are on the Hot AC chart (Bo Bice went to #11), yet they DO play stuff that never even charts? Are record promoters controlling what they play?

Like I said, even my 11-year old recognizes piss-poor programming.

LF
 
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