Markets where all 4 major networks are on VHF channels

[gregg75]

I was thinking of taking this thread in the other direction, markets where one or more of the big 4 are on UHF (but got to thinking that would be a lot of markets, even today). So let's limit this to VHF 2-13. ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Los Angeles, New York and San Francisco are the cities where all big 4 networks are on the VHF side.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Honolulu is another place where the big network affiliates are on VHF KHON Fox 2, KITV4 ABC, KGMB and KHNL.

 

[KeithE4]

Los Angeles, New York and San Francisco are the cities where all big 4 networks are on the VHF side.

I think the OP is talking actual transmit channel, not PSIP, which could be anywhere. All three of LA's stations that were on the VHF-LO band are now on UHF. KCBS 2.x transmits on Channel 43, KNBC 4.x is on 36, and KTLA 5.x is on 31.

Analog's gone, dude. PSIP doesn't have anything to do with the real channel a station transmits on.

 

[KeithE4]

Honolulu is another place where the big network affiliates are on VHF KHON Fox 2, KITV4 ABC, KGMB and KHNL.

KHON 2.x transmits on Channel 8 and KHET 11.x is on Channel 11. All other Oahu stations are UHF.

 

[Mr Tony]

If you are talking digital there is probably just one

Bangor Maine
NBC RF2 PSIP 2
CBS RF 13 PSIP 5
ABC & FOX RF7 PSIP 7 (ABC) and 7-2 (FOX)

yes FOX is on a LP station RF22 but they are also on RF7

and to even make it better PBS is on RF9 PSIP 12

 

[Mr Tony]

wait...forgot one

Steubenville, OH/Wheeling WV

WTRF RF7
7-1 CBS HD
7-2 my SD
7-3 ABC SD
(ABC & My are on a LP station so they can be in HD)

WTOV RF9
9-1 NBC HD
9-2 FOX HD
9-3 Me

 

[Mr Tony]

whoops...another
Grand Island, NE

KGIN RF11
11-1 CBS
11-2 NBC

KHGI RF13
13-1 ABC
13-2 FOX

and to top it off NBC is also on KSNB RF4 (4-1)

 

[Mr Tony]

Sault Ste Marie, MI

WGTQ RF8
8-1 ABC
8-2 NBC
8-3 Comet

WWUP RF10
10-1 CBS
10-2 FOX

 

[Mr Tony]

One notable exception.....until Sinclair moved some stations around Las Vegas Big 4 WERE on VHF

FOX RF9 PSIP 5
ABC RF and PSIP 13
CBS RF7 PSIP 8
NBC WAS on RF2 PSIP 3 but now is on UHF

 

[Mr Tony]

Chattanooga, TN
NBC 13 (3)
CBS 12 (12)
ABC/FOX 9 (9)

 

[Mr Tony]

If you are talking digital there is probably just one

Bangor Maine
NBC RF2 PSIP 2
CBS RF 13 PSIP 5
ABC & FOX RF7 PSIP 7 (ABC) and 7-2 (FOX)

yes FOX is on a LP station RF22 but they are also on RF7

and to even make it better PBS is on RF9 PSIP 12

The reason I said "just one" was I originally read the post as the whole market is VHF, not just Big 4

 

[itsTheRolyPoly]

Miami, FL
WFOR 4 (CBS)
WTVJ 6 (NBC)
WSVN 7 (FOX)
WPLG 10 (ABC)

 

[Mr Tony]

Miami, FL
WFOR 4 (CBS)
WTVJ 6 (NBC)
WSVN 7 (FOX)
WPLG 10 (ABC)

WFOR broadcasts on RF22
WTVJ is on RF31

Neither of them are on VHF which is what the topic is about. Miami is no different than oodles of markets where the Big 4 RF stations are mixed between VHF & UHF

 

[Mr Tony]

Quincy, IL/Hannibal, MO

KHQA RF7
7-1 ABC
7-2 CBS
7-3 Comet

WGEM RF10
10-1 NBC
10-2 CW
10-3 FOX

 

[gregg75]

Sorry for the confusion guys I was talking about the actual channel they identify themselves as, not their actual physical channel.

 

[itsTheRolyPoly]

Sorry for the confusion guys I was talking about the actual channel they identify themselves as, not their actual physical channel.

So Miami was right for this topic...

WFOR 4 (CBS)
WTVJ 6 (NBC)
WSVN 7 (FOX)
WPLG 10 (ABC)

This is the ONLY market in Florida that has this distinction.

Right now, I can think of some markets that have this distinction, but SLC is another one...

KUTV 2 (CBS)
KTVX 4 (ABC)
KSL 5 (NBC)
KSTU 13 (FOX)

DFW also has this distinction...

KDFW 4 (FOX)
KXAS 5 (NBC)
WFAA 8 (ABC)
KTVT 11 (CBS)

Albuquerque/Santa Fe too...

KASA 2 (FOX; for now, will soon be on KRQE 13.2)
KOB 4 (NBC)
KOAT 7 (ABC)
KRQE 13 (CBS)

I also know that NYC, LA, DC, San Fran Bay Area, Seattle, Portland and even Boise (possibly one the smallest markets to do so) have these distinctions.

I was thinking of Idaho Falls earlier but it can't because KXPI-LD (FOX/MyTV) is on 34 and neither can Houston because KRIV (FOX) is on 26. None of the New England markets have this distinction anyways.

 

[Ccook55]

The identifying channel (PSIP) no longer has relevance to VHF or UHF like they did under analog. Only their physical channel does.

 

[joebtsflk1]

When in doubt on the actual transmit channel, use https://www.fcc.gov/media/television/tv-query

The giveaway in the Miami example: WFOR does not use actual channel 4 to transmit, rather channel 22. Only a few bush-league stations elected to stay on their former low-band 2 through 6 channels. WPVI 6 Philadelphia actually uses channel 6 to transmit, but IIRC it wasn't by choice, rather there wasn't a suitable UHF channel to use. Someone more knowldgable in this situation can chime in here.

 

[Mr Tony]

Sorry for the confusion guys I was talking about the actual channel they identify themselves as, not their actual physical channel.

if you're doing it that way then
Minneapolis
WCCO CBS 4
KSTP ABC 5
KMSP FOX 9
KARE NBC 11

Billings, MT
KTVQ CBS 2
KHMT FOX 4
KSVI ABC 6
KULR NBC 8

Seattle
KOMO ABC 4
KING NBC 5
KIRO CBS 7
KCPQ FOX 13