What major markets don't have an All News station that could probably support one?
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Markets without an All Newser
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I have one: My ex-home of Savannah, GA. 3 Stations there were all-newsers
WQQT-AM 1450 (later called WQCN). Carried CNN Radio/Headline News
from October 1982 to March 1984. This became the first NIS station in Savannah.
WSGA-AM 1400 Flipped from "Music Of Your Life" to CNN Headline News (Audio)
from March 1992 to April 1994. After that, the station went silent for a year.
WTKS-AM 1290 (then WCHY) Flipped from simulcasting from its Country-Western FM sister station
on to AP News Radio (i e, "the news station") from 1994 to 1996.
Since then, there are no are al-newsers in Savannah. Only two news-talkers and two sports-talkers (last I checked).
WQQT-AM 1450 (later called WQCN). Carried CNN Radio/Headline News
from October 1982 to March 1984. This became the first NIS station in Savannah.
WSGA-AM 1400 Flipped from "Music Of Your Life" to CNN Headline News (Audio)
from March 1992 to April 1994. After that, the station went silent for a year.
WTKS-AM 1290 (then WCHY) Flipped from simulcasting from its Country-Western FM sister station
on to AP News Radio (i e, "the news station") from 1994 to 1996.
Since then, there are no are al-newsers in Savannah. Only two news-talkers and two sports-talkers (last I checked).
Radio1360 said:I have one: My ex-home of Savannah, GA. 3 Stations there were all-newsers
WQQT-AM 1450 (later called WQCN). Carried CNN Radio/Headline News
from October 1982 to March 1984. This became the first NIS station in Savannah.
WSGA-AM 1400 Flipped from "Music Of Your Life" to CNN Headline News (Audio)
from March 1992 to April 1994. After that, the station went silent for a year.
WTKS-AM 1290 (then WCHY) Flipped from simulcasting from its Country-Western FM sister station
on to AP News Radio (i e, "the news station") from 1994 to 1996.
Since then, there are no are al-newsers in Savannah. Only two news-talkers and two sports-talkers (last I checked).
When did Savannah become a major market?
Have any small/medium market stations been successful with a Network News service?
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1982, like I mentioned in the listing. Thing is, the first all-news AM station (WQCN) was successful with this one having flipped its Country-Western format to All-News. But in 1984, the station thought that Savannah was ready for a news-talk format. So in March of 1984, the station flipped to that format (and changed its call letters to WWAM). They thought wrong. That proved to be a disaster! Nobody (especially me) in Savannah listened to it, and the station flipped back to its Country-Western format about a year later!jas2525 said:Radio1360 said:I have one: My ex-home of Savannah, GA. 3 Stations there were all-newsers
WQQT-AM 1450 (later called WQCN). Carried CNN Radio/Headline News
from October 1982 to March 1984. This became the first NIS station in Savannah.
WSGA-AM 1400 Flipped from "Music Of Your Life" to CNN Headline News (Audio)
from March 1992 to April 1994. After that, the station went silent for a year.
WTKS-AM 1290 (then WCHY) Flipped from simulcasting from its Country-Western FM sister station
on to AP News Radio (i e, "the news station") from 1994 to 1996.
Since then, there are no are al-newsers in Savannah. Only two news-talkers and two sports-talkers (last I checked).
When did Savannah become a major market?
The second one was WSGA-AM 1400 better known back in the day as "The Rockin' 140" and later
"The Music Of Your Life", switch to all-news in 1992 after I got a tip on the phone from a guy at Transtar a few months back saying that a station in Savannah was joining CNN Headline News in March. Then in March, that station was WSGA-AM. It had the format until 1994, and then suddenly one went silent. A year later it came back with a Family/Talk format.
The third and last one was WCHY-AM 1290 (formerly WTOC, WWSA, and now WTKS). After
seven years of simulcasting country music from its FM sister station of the same call letters, WCHY-AM flipped over to an all-news format in 1994 with the then fledgling NIS service, AP News Radio ("the news station") augmented with coverage of college football and basketball. Like the other two previous stations, its format too lasted only two years (1994-1996). After that, the station flipped to ABC's "Real Country" format (1996-1998), then went kid-friendly with Radio Disney (1998-2001) and then finally changed over to news-talk and the call letters to WTKS.
Then after that, I guess the market for the all-news format just, fizzled out.
Smaller and some Medium Markets can't really handle all-news since they would have to use a 24-hour turn-key feed from NIS(NBC Radio via Dial Global), CNN Headline News(Defunct) and ARNN. Local stations would only insert local content on the Top of the hour and bottom of the hour. I know in Sacramento (Medium Market) there's drive time news on KFBK, and I know KGO used to do drive time news until they extended news from 12pm to 12am and from 4am to 9am weekdays in SFO to compete against KCBS but with more features than KCBS.
I know Large markets can handle all-news radio better since theres more local issues that a city has to deal with like crime and politics.
I know Large markets can handle all-news radio better since theres more local issues that a city has to deal with like crime and politics.
Radio1360 said:I have one: My ex-home of Savannah, GA. 3 Stations there were all-newsers
WQQT-AM 1450 (later called WQCN). Carried CNN Radio/Headline News
from October 1982 to March 1984. This became the first NIS station in Savannah.
WSGA-AM 1400 Flipped from "Music Of Your Life" to CNN Headline News (Audio)
from March 1992 to April 1994. After that, the station went silent for a year.
WTKS-AM 1290 (then WCHY) Flipped from simulcasting from its Country-Western FM sister station
on to AP News Radio (i e, "the news station") from 1994 to 1996.
Since then, there are no are al-newsers in Savannah. Only two news-talkers and two sports-talkers (last I checked).
How about WCNN in Atlanta they were all news in that market in the 1980's and 1990's before they went defunct at some point. I know WCEO and WSB currently has drive time news in those markets. I know theres rumors of Cumulus putting a "news and Information" station on 106.5 or 106.7 or 106.3 in Atlanta. I think in Medium Markets Drive Time News would be more appropriate for those areas compared to all-news radio. Also I know ARNN, News Radio International, CBS Radio News (via radio.com) all have radio feeds for all-news network for areas that cannot get an all-news station.
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I know there's rumors of Cumulus putting a "news and Information" station on 106.5 or 106.7 or 106.3 in Atlanta.
[/quote] Those rumors are fact. The station will be "All-News 106.7" starting the day after Memorial Day.
[/quote] Those rumors are fact. The station will be "All-News 106.7" starting the day after Memorial Day.
is CBS Radio News from radio.com syndicated and availible to stations?
travisl5678 said:is CBS Radio News from radio.com syndicated and availible to stations?
Well the stations have to sign with Dial Global if they want the CBS Radio News network.
To answer the original question on this thread, with Atlanta set to start Monday, all the Top ten markets have an all newser. That leaves Miami, Minneapolis, Phoenix and San Diego without an all news outlet. I don't think Minneapolis and San Diego even do all news in the morning. Tampa has WWBA out of Largo which uses America's News Network during the day.
benale said:To answer the original question on this thread, with Atlanta set to start Monday, all the Top ten markets have an all newser. That leaves Miami, Minneapolis, Phoenix and San Diego without an all news outlet. I don't think Minneapolis and San Diego even do all news in the morning. Tampa has WWBA out of Largo which uses America's News Network during the day.
I know in San Diego's case they get their all-news from KNX 1070 in LA since they are the 50kw in Southern California. But KNX is mostly covering news for LA. I know in some cases KNX will talk about San Diego for some stories.
benale said:To answer the original question on this thread, with Atlanta set to start Monday, all the Top ten markets have an all newser. That leaves Miami, Minneapolis, Phoenix and San Diego without an all news outlet. I don't think Minneapolis and San Diego even do all news in the morning. Tampa has WWBA out of Largo which uses America's News Network during the day.
Minneapolis had an all-news station, WMNN-1330, from 1995 to 2004. It was operated by the Minnesota News Network, a commercial operation run by Minnesota Public Radio. I don't think it ever did particularly well.
How about New Orleans?
Not true, thats like saying that KCBS serves Sacramentorecto101 said:benale said:To answer the original question on this thread, with Atlanta set to start Monday, all the Top ten markets have an all newser. That leaves Miami, Minneapolis, Phoenix and San Diego without an all news outlet. I don't think Minneapolis and San Diego even do all news in the morning. Tampa has WWBA out of Largo which uses America's News Network during the day.
I know in San Diego's case they get their all-news from KNX 1070 in LA since they are the 50kw in Southern California. But KNX is mostly covering news for LA. I know in some cases KNX will talk about San Diego for some stories.
travisl5678 said:Not true, thats like saying that KCBS serves Sacramentorecto101 said:benale said:To answer the original question on this thread, with Atlanta set to start Monday, all the Top ten markets have an all newser. That leaves Miami, Minneapolis, Phoenix and San Diego without an all news outlet. I don't think Minneapolis and San Diego even do all news in the morning. Tampa has WWBA out of Largo which uses America's News Network during the day.
I know in San Diego's case they get their all-news from KNX 1070 in LA since they are the 50kw in Southern California. But KNX is mostly covering news for LA. I know in some cases KNX will talk about San Diego for some stories.
I think his point is that a lot of people LISTEN to KNX for all news, not that KNX serves San Diego- it's a big difference. In March, KCBS drew a 0.4 in Sacramento- not bad for a station that is not local at all, and in San Diego, KNX pulled a 0.6 in the same period (March, 2012.)
I think the point was accurate.
And to the person earlier discussing Savannah- I loved living there, but it is nowhere near being a major market.
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It isn't. Because the stations I listed that had an all-news format learn themselves that the Savannah market is not big enough. Someday it might.beachguy3b said:travisl5678 said:Not true, thats like saying that KCBS serves Sacramentorecto101 said:benale said:To answer the original question on this thread, with Atlanta set to start Monday, all the Top ten markets have an all newser. That leaves Miami, Minneapolis, Phoenix and San Diego without an all news outlet. I don't think Minneapolis and San Diego even do all news in the morning. Tampa has WWBA out of Largo which uses America's News Network during the day.
I know in San Diego's case they get their all-news from KNX 1070 in LA since they are the 50kw in Southern California. But KNX is mostly covering news for LA. I know in some cases KNX will talk about San Diego for some stories.
I think his point is that a lot of people LISTEN to KNX for all news, not that KNX serves San Diego- it's a big difference. In March, KCBS drew a 0.4 in Sacramento- not bad for a station that is not local at all, and in San Diego, KNX pulled a 0.6 in the same period (March, 2012.)
I think the point was accurate.
And to the person earlier discussing Savannah- I loved living there, but it is nowhere near being a major market.
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