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Massive firings at Clear Channel/Atlanta today...

cleavo said:
Its a business...nothing more.
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I don't think I'd be alone in the idea that regardless of what is has become, it hasn't always been and maybe should never be "just a business." We're not out here on the production line making widgets, and I believe that it's that type of thinking that hurts all of radio (or TV, or even Movies, for that matter - check out the Disney company over the last few decades). True, we have a product - but contrary to popular belief, that product is not "air" - it's not even really the 30 or 60 second spots themselves (IMHO). It's an entertainment product, which has the capacity and capability, if programmed and delivered properly, to mean more, to BE more, to each individual listener, on a very intimate level, than any other thing-a-mah-doo-hickey they can buy.

I know, I know - we don't generate revenue from listeners (XM and Sirrus notwithstanding), but I still believe that only when the listener product is delivered successfully does the "air" product have any real value (not that I haven't seen incredible salespeople sell it regardless).

This probably sounds old-fashioned, and probably is. Maybe I'm just a pie-eyed idealist. Maybe I'm just tired. I know something changed somewhere along the line, and I know that "this is just a business like any other"-type thinking didn't help. IMHO.

Okay, Flame on. :)
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If you're just a "pie-eyed idealist" for thinking this way, then I am too. Amen!
 
Getting back to the topic at hand....

I have been looking at the AJC and the trades, and have not seen anything. Given the NY payola scandals and the Regular Guy's second departure, something like this usually becomes a big local story.

Where's the story??? Details? Who, what, where, when, why???
 
Radio & Records has written about it. I'm checking to see if our sister paper Mundo Hispanico has done anything yet. I wrote a small item on my Radio Talk blog but I am a bit handicapped in terms of pinning this down given other priorities, my inability to speak Spanish and my inability as of yet to get anybody to speak on the record about the details of the alleged embezzlement. I'll keep fishing Monday. What I've heard is there was an internal Cleaer Channel audit relatively recently that uncovered the chicanery but I'm not sure how long it lasted, what specific nightclubs were involved or how much money was supposedly bilked.
 
cleavo said:
I don't think I'd be alone in the idea that regardless of what is has become, it hasn't always been and maybe should never be "just a business." We're not out here on the production line making widgets, and I believe that it's that type of thinking that hurts all of radio (or TV, or even Movies, for that matter - check out the Disney company over the last few decades). True, we have a product - but contrary to popular belief, that product is not "air" - it's not even really the 30 or 60 second spots themselves (IMHO). It's an entertainment product, which has the capacity and capability, if programmed and delivered properly, to mean more, to BE more, to each individual listener, on a very intimate level, than any other thing-a-mah-doo-hickey they can buy.

I know, I know - we don't generate revenue from listeners (XM and Sirrus notwithstanding), but I still believe that only when the listener product is delivered successfully does the "air" product have any real value (not that I haven't seen incredible salespeople sell it regardless).

This probably sounds old-fashioned, and probably is. Maybe I'm just a pie-eyed idealist. Maybe I'm just tired. I know something changed somewhere along the line, and I know that "this is just a business like any other"-type thinking didn't help. IMHO.

Okay, Flame on. :)
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You're not alone, brother. I'm also an idealist. ;D
 
Hey, I can relate very well to what some of these postings have stated. Although I was not with Clear Channel, I was with Susquehanna Radio and had a successful sports talk show for 15 years. Then, the managment change. I was told that "we're going in another direction" and that "sports doesn't sell on radio." Fact! :-\
 
rodneyho said:
Radio & Records has written about it. I'm checking to see if our sister paper Mundo Hispanico has done anything yet. I wrote a small item on my Radio Talk blog but I am a bit handicapped in terms of pinning this down given other priorities, my inability to speak Spanish and my inability as of yet to get anybody to speak on the record about the details of the alleged embezzlement. I'll keep fishing Monday. What I've heard is there was an internal Cleaer Channel audit relatively recently that uncovered the chicanery but I'm not sure how long it lasted, what specific nightclubs were involved or how much money was supposedly bilked.
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You might try to talk to Robbie Ramirez, the new PD for both Spanish stations who arrived just weeks before the incident of last week.
 
radiomayor2 said:
the first thing the new partners should do is tell the mays' that Hogan goes before the deal closes....
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That would be an antitrust violation. Bain Capital et al. are too smart to jump the gun.

After the close, on the other hand . . .
 
jpcgonebig said:
You dont see message boards up for the law firm industry and how the BIG law firms are downsizing . . .
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That's because the big law firms aren't. In fact, they're increasing associate salaries substantially.

Get out of the business and go to law school. Trust me.
 
rodneyho said:
Radio & Records has written about it. I'm checking to see if our sister paper Mundo Hispanico has done anything yet. I wrote a small item on my Radio Talk blog but I am a bit handicapped in terms of pinning this down given other priorities, my inability to speak Spanish and my inability as of yet to get anybody to speak on the record about the details of the alleged embezzlement. I'll keep fishing Monday. What I've heard is there was an internal Cleaer Channel audit relatively recently that uncovered the chicanery but I'm not sure how long it lasted, what specific nightclubs were involved or how much money was supposedly bilked.
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I heard the business manager was fired today...Kim something.
 
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