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NASA should consider contacting WWVA for future space travel, because THEY KEEP GOING UP!

All they need is a signal that is better than the joke I just made and we'll all see how well well programmed chr's could work in Atl. I now flash back to when I was saying "can't wait to see where they are by June". I still stick to my past saying: "I bet WWVA could easily make the top 10 in overall ratings (and even surpass one of the urbans) - IF given a proper full strength signal".
 
By the way, VERY interesting here! Anybody remember the ratings book when a bunch of stations all fell at the same time, but gospel went up? Well, now it looks pretty much like the complete opposite happened!
 
I just wonder about Rock 100.5 and TRG? In two months they have been "passed" by WCNN an WGST 6+. I do not think the Braves are helping.
 
Let's see WVEE/V-103 overall 12+ is down, but their cume is up so that means more people are listening just for a shorter amounts of time. I doubt CBS is worried considering they are still #1. Also they seem to go through quite a number of patterns of slightly dropping and then bouncing back the very next month because they stay on top of programming tweaks of their music like their current inclusion of rhythmic crossover tracks during the summer months.
 
secondchoice said:
I just wonder about Rock 100.5 and TRG? In two months they have been "passed" by WCNN an WGST 6+. I do not think the Braves are helping.

TRGuy's have become a joke and are very old and tired.
 
BRENT said:
secondchoice said:
I just wonder about Rock 100.5 and TRG? In two months they have been "passed" by WCNN an WGST 6+. I do not think the Braves are helping.

TRGuy's have become a joke and are very old and tired.

Couldn't be more wrong. TRG is the only thing doing well on Rock 100.5. Can't say anything for the rest of the station but TRG's numbers are fine.
 
Nyte Ryder said:
BRENT said:
secondchoice said:
I just wonder about Rock 100.5 and TRG? In two months they have been "passed" by WCNN an WGST 6+. I do not think the Braves are helping.

TRGuy's have become a joke and are very old and tired.

Couldn't be more wrong. TRG is the only thing doing well on Rock 100.5. Can't say anything for the rest of the station but TRG's numbers are fine.
Rock100.5 has tried just about every flavor of classic rock--90s alt, 80s hair, 70s/80s arena rock, classic hits a la River, and now 60s/70s cuts too hard/deep for River (like the old Z93)--with about the same results, net-net. With each move they pick up some listeners but lose others. Maybe they need to try something other than exhuming the ghosts of Z93 and 96 Rock. About the only thing they haven't tried is 70s/80s classic alt (think KROQ back in the day), and they are NOT going to do that. Frankly, I'd like to see them return to their original formula that was heavy on 80s AOR, both hair and non-hair, and leave the Hendrix and Doors in the past.

I was listening to an aircheck of the Power 99 to 99X flip the other night, and 99X's out of the box playlist was just about all 80s classic alt (the kind of stuff you hear on "First Wave" on satellite). 99X dropped that for grunge/90s alt pretty quickly, never to return (except for retro shows). And that is when 99X lost a preset for me.
 
kilamanjero said:
Let's see WVEE/V-103 overall 12+ is down, but their cume is up so that means more people are listening just for a shorter amounts of time. I doubt CBS is worried considering they are still #1. Also they seem to go through quite a number of patterns of slightly dropping and then bouncing back the very next month because they stay on top of programming tweaks of their music like their current inclusion of rhythmic crossover tracks during the summer months.

With WSB-TALK up to their neck, if they don't bounce back, Talk could be #1 next go round. I
keep telling you, it's just a matter of time, WSB-TALK is going to be #1 sooner or later.
 
100.5 could keep the regular guys then do "funny". Cumulus has done well with it in KC. Also no stereo 19KHZ tone which would help the reception a little.
 
kilamanjero said:
Let's see WVEE/V-103 overall 12+ is down, but their cume is up so that means more people are listening just for a shorter amounts of time. I doubt CBS is worried considering they are still #1. Also they seem to go through quite a number of patterns of slightly dropping and then bouncing back the very next month because they stay on top of programming tweaks of their music like their current inclusion of rhythmic crossover tracks during the summer months.

Of course they would have to fall temporarily or level out at some point because how much higher could they go? If V103 got any higher, then it would have to start hanging out with Snoop Dogg.
 
You should have been here about 1981. V-103 was so high you had to add the next
4 or 5 stations together to reach them. I think their rating was something like a 15.
 
gregg75 said:
kilamanjero said:
Let's see WVEE/V-103 overall 12+ is down, but their cume is up so that means more people are listening just for a shorter amounts of time. I doubt CBS is worried considering they are still #1. Also they seem to go through quite a number of patterns of slightly dropping and then bouncing back the very next month because they stay on top of programming tweaks of their music like their current inclusion of rhythmic crossover tracks during the summer months.
With WSB-TALK up to their neck, if they don't bounce back, Talk could be #1 next go round. I
keep telling you, it's just a matter of time, WSB-TALK is going to be #1 sooner or later.

If they do then it will be short-lived because nobody there are more consistent urban music listeners in Atlanta than those whom listen to talk radio. Also remember they are just 2 signals to compete with WVEE's single flamethrower.

gregg75 said:
You should have been here about 1981. V-103 was so high you had to add the next
4 or 5 stations together to reach them. I think their rating was something like a 15.

That was diary days, where numbers like weren't that uncommon. However, the fact that V-103 is constantly teeter on hitting a double-digit ratings time to time shows that it's a well-programmed urban station in a crowded urban market.
 
Look how far WSB-Talk has come (on V-103's heels) since it's debut. It's like a shark
......getttin closer and closer.

Then, there may be some yo-yoing between them for awhile, but eventually WSB-Talks
will settle on top........and stay there. IMO
 
gregg75 said:
Look how far WSB-Talk has come (on V-103's heels) since it's debut. It's like a shark
......getttin closer and closer.

Then, there may be some yo-yoing between them for awhile, but eventually WSB-Talks
will settle on top........and stay there. IMO

WSB is simulcasting on a FM signal thus it's ratings are inflate so it's not a true assessment of it's listenership. As a matter of fact, there's quite a bit of duplication in PPM for WSB. I don't see V-103 falling #2 to WSB in the long term. Politics is the only thing that boosts their ratings so anytime the political season ends so those that boost.
 
kilamanjero said:
gregg75 said:
Look how far WSB-Talk has come (on V-103's heels) since it's debut. It's like a shark
......getttin closer and closer.

Then, there may be some yo-yoing between them for awhile, but eventually WSB-Talks
will settle on top........and stay there. IMO

WSB is simulcasting on a FM signal thus it's ratings are inflate so it's not a true assessment of it's listenership. As a matter of fact, there's quite a bit of duplication in PPM for WSB. I don't see V-103 falling #2 to WSB in the long term. Politics is the only thing that boosts their ratings so anytime the political season ends so those that boost.

That's not correct. You can add average ratings, and there's no duplication. What you cannot ad is cumes because people could listen to both signals during a week. But what's reported by All Access, Radio-Info, etc. are average audience shares that can be added.
 
RoddyFreeman said:
kilamanjero said:
gregg75 said:
Look how far WSB-Talk has come (on V-103's heels) since it's debut. It's like a shark
......getttin closer and closer.

Then, there may be some yo-yoing between them for awhile, but eventually WSB-Talks
will settle on top........and stay there. IMO

WSB is simulcasting on a FM signal thus it's ratings are inflate so it's not a true assessment of it's listenership. As a matter of fact, there's quite a bit of duplication in PPM for WSB. I don't see V-103 falling #2 to WSB in the long term. Politics is the only thing that boosts their ratings so anytime the political season ends so those that boost.

That's not correct. You can add average ratings, and there's no duplication. What you cannot ad is cumes because people could listen to both signals during a week. But what's reported by All Access, Radio-Info, etc. are average audience shares that can be added.

At the end of the day, the only reason why I see this inflated notion of WSB becoming a contender for the top spot is because the political cycle coming up when quite a number of people will listen for various reasons. But like all things in news, it becomes an afterthought once the election results are revealed.
 
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