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sensitivity training is a CYA move by companies

Trust me I have sat thru dozens of them and not one of them has ever altered my opinion.

I'm serious, every on air host should just go in and be as flavorless as possible because heaven forbid someone get their knickers in a bunch and call the station to complain, write the FCC, call advertisers, or worse pull a Murchinson

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TheBigA said:
It's a difficult job being the host of a talk show. Don Imus made that clear 15 years ago. People get offended. All races and religions. Radio host Nick Cannon lost his radio and TV jobs because he offended Jewish people. This happens a lot. That's why some companies recommend sensitivity training.
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Nick Cannon didn’t lose his radio and TV jobs, he was off the air for awhile and then came back, after giving an apology and meeting with some leaders of different Jewish groups. It’s not difficult to not say racist things on the air, lots of people manage to do it and they change to match the times they’re broadcasting in or what the company they work for expects of them.
 
radiofan2023 said:
Nick Cannon didn’t lose his radio and TV jobs, he was off the air for awhile and then came back, after giving an apology
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Nick Cannon was fired from Viacom.


Most recently his syndication deal with SkyView has ended

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radiofan2023 said:
It’s not difficult to not say racist things on the air, lots of people manage to do it and they change to match the times they’re broadcasting in or what the company they work for expects of them.
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I agree. It sounds as though Mazz is doing and saying the right things and understands the situation.

MRBIboredop said:
sensitivity training is a CYA move by companies
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Perhaps, as are the releases and other things they ask employees to sign. Companies don't want to be sued because of something one of their hosts say. Some hosts take out insurance policies to cover what they say. There are lots of ways to handle this situation. Mazz & Beasley seem to be handling this properly.
 
My mistake, I didn’t realize Viacom had fired him back then since I never watched his shows. I know that Samsung TV Plus has a channel devoted to his Wild N Out show, so he probably gets residuals from those shows and his movies airing elsewhere. Plus his Skyview deal ending isn’t related to what he said years ago.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
So…not capable of empathy towards those who have historically been marginalized? Subjected to discrimination? Violence? Dehumanization?

That doesn’t seem like a really strong flex, there.
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I'm Irish, the people that P.J. O'Rourke called " the blacks of Europe"

And when I say "I'm Irish" I'm not some Yank who turns Irish for March 17th, I am an Irish Citizen and hold a E.U, Passport, and prior to the E.U. my Irish Passport was in English and Gaelic. For those who know me on FB I use the Gaelic spelling of my name, not the Anglicized one

the "Paddy" wagon was not an slur against my people?

The " No Irish Need Apply" signs?

Even Mel Brooks pointed out in his movie slamming discrimination ( Blazing Saddles" " We'll take the ( n word) and the (slur for Chinese) but we won't take the Irish"

I'll give you the Democratic Party was born out of the movement to keep slavery, and the D's and the KKK were always closely aligned ( Robert Byrd anyone?) but there was a political party that was established for the sole purpose of oppressing Roman Catholics and the Irish immigrants, they were the Know Nothing Party.

Did I mention my people were oppressed by England, our land occupied, our lands taken, our goods taken away and taken to England, our native language was made illegal to speak.... my ancestors were forced to flee their country due to starvation and other problems caused by the occupying forces.

Sorry if I don't seem sympathetic to the plight of a couple of guys who walked into frame on a podcast and became the topic of discussion.

I have a pretty good idea about discrimination, oppression, etc etc etc. I heard about it from my parents, Grandparents, my family still working the farm across the pond, and in the songs of my people.

I also know that Italians, Polish, Jewish, and other arrivals to this land faced similar discriminatory actions.

So I'll be waiting for my reparation check to be deposited into my bank account.

Oh and while they are taking Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima off General Mills products, I'd like to have something done about the icon they use to sell Lucky Charms cereal. I'm offended, I'm woke, remove him now and kiss my feet

 
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MRBIboredop said:
I also know that Italians, Polish, Jewish, and other arrivals to this land faced similar discriminatory actions.
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Absolutely, and everyone gets offended. Fat people, skinny people, tall people, and of course short people. They gave Randy Newman a lot of crap about his song. We sometimes talk about old people having no filter, but for some reason, perhaps because of social media, people of all ages seem to have no filter. When that happens, someone is going to take offense. Not just black people, and the laws that apply to them can be used for other people as well. Blame it on our litigious society. That's what you get when you live in a country that once welcomed everyone from every country. They're trying to change that now, but it doesn't change the fact that people are here now and have been for a long time. The constitution tried to deal with that by saying the government can't force a religion on people.
 
Yeah, I've found the Lucky Charms commercial offensive, especially since I happen to be of Irish descent. I used to like it, but now...what can I say?
 
MRBIboredop said:
All these hosts with good contracts need to go into the studio and read the phone book during their shows.... that way they can't be accused of being insensitive to ( insert this weeks woke cause here)
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Mazz looked at the video background, saw two Black people minding their business, judged them on the basis of their skin color, and assumed they were criminals. He then made a joke about it to Fegler. That has nothing to do with sports. It was just a gratuitous joke at the expense of two people judged by their race.
It is doubtful that if the people in the background were white (including Irish heritage), that Mazz would have made any remarks about them whatsoever.
Mazz was hired by Beasley for his comic wit to do a sports talk show. If Mazz is such a talent, then he shouldn't have to resort to prejudiced remarks about people of color. As mentioned above, it is not difficult to avoid derogatory remarks about people's skin color.
 
Wimmmex said:
Apparently this logic is very clear to you.

Don't assume everyone
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Not assuming anything. I have been judged on the basis of my group affiliation. That's what Mazz did to the people in the business center. So, I'm trying to explain how that reinforces old stereotypes that lead to oppression. Obviously, not everyone is going to agree. But, it's a subject worth talking about, I think.
 
Daryl Lynn L.A. said:
Mazz looked at the video background, saw two Black people minding their business, judged them on the basis of their skin color, and assumed they were criminals.
It is doubtful that if the people in the background were white (including Irish heritage), that Mazz would have made any remarks about them whatsoever.
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Mazz never actually addressed their race so that's impossible to know. Given that Felger just had his car stolen if there was a young white man slouched down in his chair just staring at Mike it's entirely likely Mazz makes the same joke.
 
Felger on Friday was broadcasting remotely from New Orleans, where his daughter attends college. The loud and animated talk show host was doing the show in a hotel business service center where people log onto computers, and two Black individuals were sitting behind Felger at the time.

“Yeah, I want to know now who the two guys behind you are, that’s what I want to know. Because if I were you …” Massarotti said, as Felger told the guys behind him that he’d be off the air in 2 minutes.

“… They can’t hear us, right?” Massarotti then asked Felger, who said the people couldn’t hear the hosts broadcasting from Waltham. “OK, so I would be careful if I were you because the last time you were around a couple of guys like that, they stole your car.”
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Massarotti says that the last time Felger was around a couple of guys "like that" , they stole his car. He wants to make sure that they cannot hear him. What else could he be referencing except their appearance? If he is not referring to their race, then it is not clear what he is obliquely and equivocally referring to.
 
Daryl Lynn L.A. said:
Mazz looked at the video background, saw two Black people minding their business, judged them on the basis of their skin color, and assumed they were criminals. He then made a joke about it to Fegler. That has nothing to do with sports. It was just a gratuitous joke at the expense of two people judged by their race.
It is doubtful that if the people in the background were white (including Irish heritage), that Mazz would have made any remarks about them whatsoever.
Mazz was hired by Beasley for his comic wit to do a sports talk show. If Mazz is such a talent, then he shouldn't have to resort to prejudiced remarks about people of color. As mentioned above, it is not difficult to avoid derogatory remarks about people's skin color.
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Where I am not dismissing your statement, is there evidence that confirms this without reasonable doubt? As I read this thread, I read declarations, but have yet to see concrete (irrefutable) evidence. That does not mean that I disagree, with your premise. I just don't like making declarations without them being iron clad.

What we know is that two men, who were black, were sitting behind Felger. Mazz made a statement about the stolen car. Where the connection is easy to make, it does not necessarily prove a direct connection between race and statement. It does not disprove it either.
 
Daryl Lynn L.A. said:
What else could he be referencing except their appearance? If he is not referring to their race, then it is not clear what he is obliquely and equivocally referring to.
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1.) Folks hanging around doing nothing..
2.) People sneaking up behind him.
3.) Listeners showing up at remotes who don't like him.
4.) Guys who might see him as an opportune mark.

People "like that"....
 
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